Biden up in polls, now leads Trump in WI, tie Michigan and PA..

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LMCane
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(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden has gained ground against Republican Donald Trump in six of seven key swing states, and significantly so in at least two of them. The results make for the Democrat's strongest position yet in a monthly Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll.

The move in the president's direction comes after five months of mostly consistent Trump leads, and follows a State of the Union address that rallied Democrats and seemed to mitigate concerns about Biden's age.

The shift was significant in Wisconsin, where Biden leads Trump by one point after trailing him by four points in February, and in Pennsylvania, where the candidates are tied after Trump held a six-point lead last month. They are also tied in Michigan.

It's too soon to know whether the improved showing is a one-time bump or the beginning of a more durable change in the race, and Biden continues to lag the presumptive GOP nominee in four crucial states. But November victories in so-called "Blue Wall" northern battlegrounds would all but vault Biden to a second term.

We Told You So...



"don't worry Trumpers! Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Detroit/Dearborn will give Trump the win on election night!"
DrEvazanPhD
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Well, if you think we've been better off under Biden, I don't know what to tell you, other than you're too far gone
TTUArmy
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Yay...communism...gj Dems and TDS crowd.
Jack Boyette
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You should look at other, more reliable polls. Biden is getting absolutely crushed.
Logos Stick
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Don't vote for Trump then OP. Enjoy your tyrannny!
WHOOP!'91
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LMCane said:

(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden has gained ground against Republican Donald Trump in six of seven key swing states, and significantly so in at least two of them. The results make for the Democrat's strongest position yet in a monthly Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll.

The move in the president's direction comes after five months of mostly consistent Trump leads, and follows a State of the Union address that rallied Democrats and seemed to mitigate concerns about Biden's age.

The shift was significant in Wisconsin, where Biden leads Trump by one point after trailing him by four points in February, and in Pennsylvania, where the candidates are tied after Trump held a six-point lead last month. They are also tied in Michigan.

It's too soon to know whether the improved showing is a one-time bump or the beginning of a more durable change in the race, and Biden continues to lag the presumptive GOP nominee in four crucial states. But November victories in so-called "Blue Wall" northern battlegrounds would all but vault Biden to a second term.

We Told You So...



"don't worry Trumpers! Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Detroit/Dearborn will give Trump the win on election night!"
I don't know what poll MSN is referencing, but RCP still says Trump leads nationally and in every swing state.

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Jack Boyette
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They should commission a study of the brains of people so ****ing stupid, they'd vote for this dumbass AGAIN. It's bad enough being such a dip**** you'd vote for him the first time. But AGAIN after 4 years of experience? Wow, man.
Tea Party
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LMCane said:

We Told You So...



"don't worry Trumpers!
Is this a troll thread or are you admitting that you so against Trump that you would rather sit on the sidline in November and watch the country burn around you?

I don't like Trump, but I can at least see that the enemy (Trump) of my enemy (leftism and big establishment gov) has to be my friend, at least for now even with all of his flaws.
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LMCane
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It's hard to believe a grown human can't comprehend that SIMPLY POSTING TODAY'S POLL RESULTS is not a poster calling for Biden to be re-elected.

But I can understand how the true believers cannot tolerate any look at reality other than constant praise of their saint.


for those who can't figure it out:

I want Trump to beat Biden.

But he won't do it- because he is an awful candidate and screwed the pooch in 2020.

Which is what many of us have been stating for 2 years now.
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Hardest working CM
Science Denier
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Tea Party said:

LMCane said:

We Told You So...



"don't worry Trumpers!
Is this a troll thread or are you admitting that you so against Trump that you would rather sit on the sidline in November and watch the country burn around you?

I don't like Trump, but I can at least see that the enemy (Trump) of my enemy (leftism and big establishment gov) has to be my friend, at least for now even with all of his flaws.
TDS is real. It's been quite a learning experience this past year on here to watch it unfold. If I were a researcher, there is tons of data right here on this board.


FIrst, there was Hope in DeSantis
But, then....

2. REEEEEEing as DeSantis can't run even a bad campaign. Dude ignored most media and got his messagge out to about 3 actual voters.
3. Then watching them screech "Trump has zero shot at winning".
4. Then, my favorite, it was "well, the left is prosecuting Trump to help him beat DeSantis". That was classic right there.
5. Then, when polls show Trump commanding leads, it was "well, polls don't matter. Just wait until DeSantis runs his campaign, it's early. Ignore that 50-point lead".
5. Then, oops, even Haley kicked the **** out of DeSantis as his campaign was a total and complete disaster.
6. Then, Trump leads national polls, and it's well, polls don't matter again. They are just setting you up.
7. Now, it's look, this one poll shows Trump is gonna lose...SEE TOLD YA!!!

I tell ya it's been fascinating to watch.
LOL OLD
Drahknor03
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Same poll:

usmcbrooks
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Really is too early for nonsense this morning.
Beerosch
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WHOOP!'91 said:

LMCane said:

(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden has gained ground against Republican Donald Trump in six of seven key swing states, and significantly so in at least two of them. The results make for the Democrat's strongest position yet in a monthly Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll.

The move in the president's direction comes after five months of mostly consistent Trump leads, and follows a State of the Union address that rallied Democrats and seemed to mitigate concerns about Biden's age.

The shift was significant in Wisconsin, where Biden leads Trump by one point after trailing him by four points in February, and in Pennsylvania, where the candidates are tied after Trump held a six-point lead last month. They are also tied in Michigan.

It's too soon to know whether the improved showing is a one-time bump or the beginning of a more durable change in the race, and Biden continues to lag the presumptive GOP nominee in four crucial states. But November victories in so-called "Blue Wall" northern battlegrounds would all but vault Biden to a second term.

We Told You So...



"don't worry Trumpers! Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Detroit/Dearborn will give Trump the win on election night!"
I don't know what poll MSN is referencing, but RCP still says Trump leads nationally and in every swing state.


The poll that takes the amount of expected voter fraud into consideration
MouthBQ98
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Media is pushing again. Need headlines….
Madagascar
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I'm betting this is manufactured polling to prepare us for the manufactured election results to come.
Ellis Wyatt
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And yet every single post of yours is campaigning against him.
Tea Party
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LMCane said:

It's hard to believe a grown human can't comprehend that SIMPLY POSTING TODAY'S POLL RESULTS is not a poster calling for Biden to be re-elected.
You did not "simply post today's poll results".

You added your typical TDS spin at the end of it which is what I was questioning you about.

Had you left the TDS comments out of the post and made general comments such as "Trump is not a unifier nor a conservative and has been attacking from the left too much lately", then your posting history would have a lot more credibility.

But instead it comes across as orange man bad.
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Rockdoc
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We know you're a Biden lib. It's ok, somebody has to be.
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Morning consult is the 116th rated pollster from 538. Eli Yokely from politico/roll call etc., and Cameron Eastly from Univ. Mizzou are DC residents that basically love all things Democrat.

Good for them for making a living at this stuff but I wouldn't worry too much about how accurate they are in their work. This is just to get them clicks, basically, from folks exactly like OP.
Logos Stick
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LMCane said:

for those who can't figure it out:

I want Trump to beat Biden.

But he won't do it- because he is an awful candidate and screwed the pooch in 2020.

Which is what many of us have been stating for 2 years now.

I wanted Desantis! He lost. The ship has sailed. Coming on here and lamenting how bad Trump is doesn;t do a whole lot.

Its not a choice between Biden and Trump this November. Your choices are: tyranny or liberty.

If Dems get enough control of the Senate and retake the House, the filibuster is gone. The next thing that will happen is they will stack the court. America as you know it is over at that point.
Funky Winkerbean
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Only polls that support your bias are accurate.
policywonk98
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I don't disagree that Trumps poll advantages were always going to disappear in swing states.

But it does not take away the fact that he is just as likely to win either PA, MI, or WI as he is likely to lose.

Also, you failed to report that just like Biden has closed the gap in WI and MI, Trump has closed the gap in PA in latest polling.

Also, it's starting to look more and more like Kennedy negatively impacts Biden more than Trump.

Margin of victory for Biden was 43.000 votes TOTAL between AZ, GA, and WI. That is out of nearly 12 million cast.

Trump is not losing the 25 states he won in both 2016 and 2020.

The questions not become has Biden done enough to hold onto AZ, GA and all of MI, WI, and PA.

He's losing national polling. Now, I've preached along time on this forum that national polls don't matter. They don't. It only matters how a presidential candidate is doing in the states they need to get to 270.

But national polling give some indications of strength of support among a candidates base.

At no time in 2016 or 2020 did Trump ever beat Hillary or Biden in the national poll avg.

The closest Trump got to Biden in the national average was -3.4 in the second week of April 2020.

Currently Trump is up about +2.

People like Biden less in 2024 than 2020. There can be no denying this at this point. And the thing about Trump is that yeah, the people that didn't like Trump last time, like him even less this time. But at Bidens margin of victory, Trumps margin defeat, it's anyone's election.

And Kennedy is absolutely going to be a factor. And I think he might end up being a factor in more than just current swing states. He's tracking with voters more like Johnson did in 2016 and he's got a lot more name rec than Gary Johnson. In 2016 Johnson got 4% in NH. Hillary won the state 46.8 to Trumps 46.4. But Johnson is no Kennedy running in NH. That one is going to be interesting to watch. As will how he runs in NV, AZ and NM. Obviously a candidate like Kennedy gains most support from voters who would not vote for Biden or Trump anyway. But again, with the Margins of victory in the states that matter, it will not take many 2020 voters in Bidens camp to say screw this old geezer that can't string a sentence together I'm voting for the old geezer that sounds like he's talking with rocks in his throat but he can do lots of pushups.

Oh and another thing. While many of these polls don't get done this early and Aug-Oct is when they really tell a tale. Trump is Killing Biden in likely voter polls right now.

Ayto Siks
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Stealing the election will be a lot more believable now.
Rockdoc
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LMCane said:

It's hard to believe a grown human can't comprehend that SIMPLY POSTING TODAY'S POLL RESULTS is not a poster calling for Biden to be re-elected.

But I can understand how the true believers cannot tolerate any look at reality other than constant praise of their saint.


for those who can't figure it out:

I want Trump to beat Biden.

But he won't do it- because he is an awful candidate and screwed the pooch in 2020.

Which is what many of us have been stating for 2 years now.

Then WHY aren't you on here campaigning AGAINST Biden? You're not. You're always on here bad mouthing Trump. Why is that. Your story isn't fooling anyone.
Muy
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And people are moving towards Biden because he's recently done so much to change things and make lives better and safer?
bobbranco
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Geez. Make up your mind already. I also don't believe your poll numbers are accurate nor do I trust Bloomberg's reporting.
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Rockdoc said:

LMCane said:

It's hard to believe a grown human can't comprehend that SIMPLY POSTING TODAY'S POLL RESULTS is not a poster calling for Biden to be re-elected.

But I can understand how the true believers cannot tolerate any look at reality other than constant praise of their saint.


for those who can't figure it out:

I want Trump to beat Biden.

But he won't do it- because he is an awful candidate and screwed the pooch in 2020.

Which is what many of us have been stating for 2 years now.

Then WHY aren't you on here campaigning AGAINST Biden? You're not. You're always on here bad mouthing Trump. Why is that. Your story isn't fooling anyone.
Because he is mad DeSantis didn't do better, thinks Trump and his supporters are the reason why, so all their anger and trolling is directed at those two. They hate those two more than they hate Biden. The Trump can't win drum beat really makes them sound like 2016 Democrats.
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TTUArmy said:

Yay...communism...gj Dems and TDS crowd.
Yay, an excuse to buy more ammo
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LMCane said:

(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden has gained ground against Republican Donald Trump in six of seven key swing states, and significantly so in at least two of them. The results make for the Democrat's strongest position yet in a monthly Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll.

The move in the president's direction comes after five months of mostly consistent Trump leads, and follows a State of the Union address that rallied Democrats and seemed to mitigate concerns about Biden's age.

The shift was significant in Wisconsin, where Biden leads Trump by one point after trailing him by four points in February, and in Pennsylvania, where the candidates are tied after Trump held a six-point lead last month. They are also tied in Michigan.

It's too soon to know whether the improved showing is a one-time bump or the beginning of a more durable change in the race, and Biden continues to lag the presumptive GOP nominee in four crucial states. But November victories in so-called "Blue Wall" northern battlegrounds would all but vault Biden to a second term.

We Told You So...



"don't worry Trumpers! Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Detroit/Dearborn will give Trump the win on election night!"


You're completely broken. Just stop. You've made it clear that you hate Trump. When the election gets here just make your choice to abstain, throw your vote away on a third party candidate, or side with the Democrats…but for the love of God get it into your head that Desantis isn't a candidate. Thanks.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

And yet every single post of yours is campaigning against him.
This... everyone's just calling out the dishonesty behind the post.
2000AgPhD
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The issues that will decide this election have npt even happened yet. This debate is simply electoral porn.
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Jack Boyette said:

They should commission a study of the brains of people so ****ing stupid, they'd vote for this dumbass AGAIN. It's bad enough being such a dip**** you'd vote for him the first time. But AGAIN after 4 years of experience? Wow, man.
The vast majority are not voting for "him". they are voting for their party, the candidate is almost beside the point. AOC or SJL would have virtually the same national support. The remainder of the votes he'll "get" will be overwhelmingly "Not Trump" votes." I can't understand why this board has such a hard time seeing that and tries so hard to mock the idea that so many love Biden when in reality that has almost nothing to do with it. You could put a piece of cardboard in his place and the support would be similar because it's all about party loyalty and hating Trump.
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Logos Stick said:

LMCane said:

for those who can't figure it out:

I want Trump to beat Biden.

But he won't do it- because he is an awful candidate and screwed the pooch in 2020.

Which is what many of us have been stating for 2 years now.

I wanted Desantis! He lost. The ship has sailed. Coming on here and lamenting how bad Trump is doesn;t do a whole lot.

Its not a choice between Biden and Trump this November. Your choices are: tyranny or liberty.

If Dems get enough control of the Senate and retake the House, the filibuster is gone. The next thing that will happen is they will stack the court. America as you know it is over at that point.


America as I knew it has been over. This country - whatever it is - would have to fundamentally change to be America again.
Fight! Fight! Fight!
 
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