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barbacoa taco said:

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even if the Ukraine stuff was taken out the GOP would kill the bill just because Trump told them to

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Still going with that line I see. Conservatives and Conservative politicians were tearing that bill to shreds before Trump ever said a thing about it. Keep spewing those false talking points though.

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Dems forget about the house bill that never saw the light of day in Schumer and RINO dominated senate

barbacoa taco said:

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even if the Ukraine stuff was taken out the GOP would kill the bill just because Trump told them to

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Also, please provide proof of this claim?

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Austin, and Fort Worth. My Cow-Town fears coming true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

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Rather Fort Worth cops focus their efforts on those street takeover thugs and other crimes rather than checking everybody's papers.

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So how many illegal aliens are you going to offer up a room in your home?

Seriously, how many?

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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if they circumvent the legal process of entering our country they are breaking the law. how is this so difficult for you to understand? that's why it's called Illegal immigration. it is the opposite of legal if that helps you better understand it.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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if they circumvent the legal process of entering our country they are breaking the law. how is this so difficult for you to understand? that's why it's called Illegal immigration. it is the opposite of legal if that helps you better understand it.

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And there are people that deal with that type of thing. The problem we have now are the House Republicans refusal to pass the much needed changes to our asylum laws. People who request asylum aren't illegal.


Though, overall, getting local law enforcement to deal with immigration is like getting a school teacher to fill in a pothole in the street in front of the school.

Can the Ft Worth police chief be arrested for aiding and abetting drug and human traffickers?

Bubblez said:

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Bubblez said:

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Austin, and Fort Worth. My Cow-Town fears coming true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

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Rather Fort Worth cops focus their efforts on those street takeover thugs and other crimes rather than checking everybody's papers.

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If someone is pulled over w no TX DL and is an illegal immigrant, they should go. Or any other violation or process reveals their illegal status, their exit of this country should be enforced. (I say as I prepare my taxes).

My expectations for Fort Worth, based on its history, are higher.

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Plenty of people drive around without a driver's license. I don't necessarily see that as a reason to do any sort of immigration check just because the person has brown skin and speaks Spanish.

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Why are you goal tending for illegals? In today's open border age not having a license and not being able to speak english is a red flag.

Bubblez said:

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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if they circumvent the legal process of entering our country they are breaking the law. how is this so difficult for you to understand? that's why it's called Illegal immigration. it is the opposite of legal if that helps you better understand it.

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The problem we have now are the House Republicans refusal to pass the much needed changes to our asylum laws.

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Bubblez said:

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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if they circumvent the legal process of entering our country they are breaking the law. how is this so difficult for you to understand? that's why it's called Illegal immigration. it is the opposite of legal if that helps you better understand it.

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And there are people that deal with that type of thing. The problem we have now are the House Republicans refusal to pass the much needed changes to our asylum laws. People who request asylum aren't illegal.


Though, overall, getting local law enforcement to deal with immigration is like getting a school teacher to fill in a pothole in the street in front of the school.

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so if republicans just change the laws to make it legal then it won't be illegal. sound about right

Bubblez said:

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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if they circumvent the legal process of entering our country they are breaking the law. how is this so difficult for you to understand? that's why it's called Illegal immigration. it is the opposite of legal if that helps you better understand it.

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And there are people that deal with that type of thing. The problem we have now are the House Republicans refusal to pass the much needed changes to our asylum laws. People who request asylum aren't illegal.


Though, overall, getting local law enforcement to deal with immigration is like getting a school teacher to fill in a pothole in the street in front of the school.

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The House passed HR2 bill dealing with the border last year and sent it to the Senate. Schumer sat on it. Demoncrats refuse to address the border crisis. Here is a link to the bill:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2


They are illegal because they did not enter at a legal port. You cant simply swim across the river and scream asylum.

They need to all be in a harsh prison doing hard time!

Bubblez said:

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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if they circumvent the legal process of entering our country they are breaking the law. how is this so difficult for you to understand? that's why it's called Illegal immigration. it is the opposite of legal if that helps you better understand it.

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And there are people that deal with that type of thing. The problem we have now are the House Republicans refusal to pass the much needed changes to our asylum laws. People who request asylum aren't illegal.


Though, overall, getting local law enforcement to deal with immigration is like getting a school teacher to fill in a pothole in the street in front of the school.

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The thousands that have illegally crossed at non points of entry before asking for asylum are very much illegal. In fact, all of these people should have asked for asylum at the first country they came to. 99% of these asylum claims are bogus and those people will never get deported, even if they happen to show up on their court date. The democrats and their garbage, open border policies are to thank for that.

Bubblez said:

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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if they circumvent the legal process of entering our country they are breaking the law. how is this so difficult for you to understand? that's why it's called Illegal immigration. it is the opposite of legal if that helps you better understand it.

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And there are people that deal with that type of thing. The problem we have now are the House Republicans refusal to pass the much needed changes to our asylum laws. People who request asylum aren't illegal.


Though, overall, getting local law enforcement to deal with immigration is like getting a school teacher to fill in a pothole in the street in front of the school.

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People who think a reason for asylum is better economic opportunities and claim it once they get caught in the country illegally sure as heck are.

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Austin, and Fort Worth. My Cow-Town fears coming true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

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Rather Fort Worth cops focus their efforts on those street takeover thugs and other crimes rather than checking everybody's papers.

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Clueless.....

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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Pass this one...

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2

barbacoa taco said:

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it wasn't perfect but it did a helluva lot to address the problem.

and the reason i know all the attacks on it are bull**** was because the same people who negotiated it torpedoed it SOLELY for political reasons. they can all go **** themselves.

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The House passed a bill that actually secured the border in October and the Senate refused to take it up. Did you get the vapors and blame the Dem-led Senate? I highly doubt it because you are full of it.

barbacoa taco said:

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even if the Ukraine stuff was taken out the GOP would kill the bill just because Trump told them to

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Cute deflect.

What problems did it fix and how did it fix them? How would it be better than enforcing the existing laws that are ignored by your masters?

Bubblez said:

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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if they circumvent the legal process of entering our country they are breaking the law. how is this so difficult for you to understand? that's why it's called Illegal immigration. it is the opposite of legal if that helps you better understand it.

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And there are people that deal with that type of thing. The problem we have now are the House Republicans refusal to pass the much needed changes to our asylum laws. People who request asylum aren't illegal.


Though, overall, getting local law enforcement to deal with immigration is like getting a school teacher to fill in a pothole in the street in front of the school.

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Do you think BP and ICE are law enforcement? Cops and deputies have been helping with border enforcement for years thanks to Democrats. DPS has been on the border many times. Once again, you are proven to be a liar. Congrats!

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Bubblez said:

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Bubblez said:

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Austin, and Fort Worth. My Cow-Town fears coming true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

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Rather Fort Worth cops focus their efforts on those street takeover thugs and other crimes rather than checking everybody's papers.

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If someone is pulled over w no TX DL and is an illegal immigrant, they should go. Or any other violation or process reveals their illegal status, their exit of this country should be enforced. (I say as I prepare my taxes).

My expectations for Fort Worth, based on its history, are higher.

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Plenty of people drive around without a driver's license. I don't necessarily see that as a reason to do any sort of immigration check just because the person has brown skin and speaks Spanish.

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Why are you goal tending for illegals? In today's open border age not having a license and not being able to speak english is a red flag.

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I think some people have a lack of engagement with real life society wherein you are part of a family with kids growing up, or you're taking part in activities outside the home, and also wanting to live with some spontaneity in safe public spaces during various stages of life.

These folks are trying to win an I-don't-care pi$$ing contest. So they come on here as if they're above it all.
But maybe they're in a bubble that's fine for them, and they're very comfortable virtue signaling from that bubble.

Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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Such as people who commit criminal trespassing? (e.g. illegal immigrants)

This is occurring all over middle America as people refuse to work and illegals are being used as replacment labor.

Biden's plan for turning middle America Blue is working.

If he cannot get them to vote Democrat, he will just replace them.

Illegal immigrants are criminals

barbacoa taco said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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A bill whose only absolute stipulations were on the open borders/amnesty sections of the agreement.

In every clause related to immigration control or border security, the President was given considerable leeway to waive those segments within the bill.

That wasn't a reform bill; that was codification of Biden's open borders policies.

https://www.heritage.org/homeland-security/report/the-senate-border-bill-disaster-border-security

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PRESIDENT BIDEN COULD SECURE BORDER WITH CURRENT AUTHORITY-HE DOES NOT WANT TO

President Joe Biden opened the border and created the country's crisis using only executive, not congressional, authority. He can end the chaos with the same executive authority; he does not need congressional authority.

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Oldfinger created this problem on the border. He could solve it by reversing his open borders policies.

But when you spent over three years claiming the border was secure, why on earth should any Republican cut a deal with a man who has already demonstrated a willingness to absolutely lie about the issue?

Why should a Republican, any Republican, trust the man who created this mess to begin with to live up to his end of the bargain?

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Why should a Republican, any Republican, trust the man who created this mess to begin with to live up to his end of the bargain?

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They should not for the same reason to not trust barbacoa - he's a democrat.

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Because it's a crime. And you said you cared about that sort of thing. It's also required to have car insurance by law.

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Sure, it is a crime. Handle the situation like any other case where the driver does not have a license.

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you do realize that license checks and the results of that often lead to further detainment? You are advocating for exactly what you are arguing against with that statement

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Bubblez said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Because it's a crime. And you said you cared about that sort of thing. It's also required to have car insurance by law.

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Sure, it is a crime. Handle the situation like any other case where the driver does not have a license.

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you do realize that license checks and the results of that often lead to further detainment? You are advocating for exactly what you are arguing against with that statement

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Sure, they lead to warrant checks. They don't lead to immigration status checks.

Bubblez said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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Ahh, so being here illegally is not a crime.

Then I'm sure neither is the facilitation of transportation of illegal narcotics, huh? Since it's these same non-criminals who are bringing fentanyl into our country, anyone who dies from an OD (with the obvious exception of St. Floyd) dies due to their own weakness and is solely responsible for their own demise, correct?

Is it safe to assume you also believe like your Californial bretheren, that stealing anything under the value of $950 is not a crime either?

And like your New York bretheren, that assault of a NYPD officer is also not a crime, and is justification for immediate release, correct?

Maybe it's more productive to ask you what IS a crime... other than being Conservative.

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"Mexico reiterates its legitimate right to protect the rights of its nationals in the United States and to determine its own policies regarding entry into its territory," the ministry said in a statement.

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It's infuriating to me that Mexico gets to have one border policy for its southern border and a different one for its northern border.

I'm warming to the idea of Trump and his missiles.

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Mexico's current stance is disturbingly similar to to one of an enemy state.

It's basically saying that it has the right to facilitate an incursion of not only its own citizens, but citizens of countries hostile to the US, across our borders against our laws; but, will resist any attempt to return those people to Mexico.

Those can be - and should be - considered words of war. Sanctions would be justified.

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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Ahh, so being here illegally is not a crime.

Then I'm sure neither is the facilitation of transportation of illegal narcotics, huh? Since it's these same non-criminals who are bringing fentanyl into our country, anyone who dies from an OD (with the obvious exception of St. Floyd) dies due to their own weakness and is solely responsible for their own demise, correct?

Is it safe to assume you also believe like your Californial bretheren, that stealing anything under the value of $950 is not a crime either?

And like your New York bretheren, that assault of a NYPD officer is also not a crime, and is justification for immediate release, correct?

Maybe it's more productive to ask you what IS a crime... other than being Conservative.

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Yes, lets arrest and prosecute all of the drug traffickers we can. We already have laws against that.

barbacoa taco said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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First and foremost, any immigration bill should have clear and consice language that failure to enter through a legal port of entry is a crime and individuals bypassing said port of entry are subject to detention and deportation.

Current immigration law allows for POTUS to enforce this notion. Every POTUS prior to this current administration has done so.

When a POTUS and his adminstration knowingly and willingly ignore the powers given to them in order to facilitate mass migration, I would expect a state affected by that derilection of duty to act to fill the gap left by the inactions of the Federal Government. Too bad Texas would never do such a thing.

oh wait.

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Bubblez said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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Ahh, so being here illegally is not a crime.

Then I'm sure neither is the facilitation of transportation of illegal narcotics, huh? Since it's these same non-criminals who are bringing fentanyl into our country, anyone who dies from an OD (with the obvious exception of St. Floyd) dies due to their own weakness and is solely responsible for their own demise, correct?

Is it safe to assume you also believe like your Californial bretheren, that stealing anything under the value of $950 is not a crime either?

And like your New York bretheren, that assault of a NYPD officer is also not a crime, and is justification for immediate release, correct?

Maybe it's more productive to ask you what IS a crime... other than being Conservative.

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Yes, lets arrest and prosecute all of the drug traffickers we can. We already have laws against that.

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Great! I'm glad we agree. Would you not also agree that step one to doing so would be to take action to stop the massive inflow of illegal inflow of said drugs into our country?

How do you do so while allowing mass illegal migration?

All of a sudden I cannot type a complete sentence because the massive amounts of ads refreshing on the page are causing my cursor to disappear every 10 seconds.

Rant over. Carry on.

barbacoa taco said:

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it wasn't perfect but it did a helluva lot to address the problem.

and the reason i know all the attacks on it are bull**** was because the same people who negotiated it torpedoed it SOLELY for political reasons. they can all go **** themselves.

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No. It didn't do Jack S*** to address the problem. They torpedoed it because it was an AWFUL bill.

It didn't do anything to stop illegal immigration. Rather, it CODIFIED illegal immigration to a certain number of individuals daily. And any triggers supposedly in the bill to stop after that number either sunsetted over time, or even better, could be ignored by the POTUS at his pleasure.

That bill was a blatant attempt to Rope-a-dope Republicans and the country itself. It was so bad, the main person responsible for negotiating it on the Republican side is stepping down.

Get that through your head.

Bubblez said:

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jrdaustin said:

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Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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Ahh, so being here illegally is not a crime.

Then I'm sure neither is the facilitation of transportation of illegal narcotics, huh? Since it's these same non-criminals who are bringing fentanyl into our country, anyone who dies from an OD (with the obvious exception of St. Floyd) dies due to their own weakness and is solely responsible for their own demise, correct?

Is it safe to assume you also believe like your Californial bretheren, that stealing anything under the value of $950 is not a crime either?

And like your New York bretheren, that assault of a NYPD officer is also not a crime, and is justification for immediate release, correct?

Maybe it's more productive to ask you what IS a crime... other than being Conservative.

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Yes, lets arrest and prosecute all of the drug traffickers we can. We already have laws against that.

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We also have laws against being in this country illegally.

barbacoa taco said:

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it wasn't perfect but it did a helluva lot to address the problem.

and the reason i know all the attacks on it are bull**** was because the same people who negotiated it torpedoed it SOLELY for political reasons. they can all go **** themselves.

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Bbq taco is angry...haha.

And how many Trump-era border policies and regulations did potato-head do away with? I'll hang up and listen.