Austin, and Fort Worth. Illegals My Cow-Town fears coming true..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

Texas velvet maestro said:

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Austin, and Fort Worth. My Cow-Town fears coming true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

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Rather Fort Worth cops focus their efforts on those street takeover thugs and other crimes rather than checking everybody's papers.

Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

Could those efforts be substantially reduced by enforcing current laws relating to the border?

Bubblez said:

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Austin, and Fort Worth. My Cow-Town fears coming true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

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Rather Fort Worth cops focus their efforts on those street takeover thugs and other crimes rather than checking everybody's papers.

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If someone is pulled over w no TX DL and is an illegal immigrant, they should go. Or any other violation or process reveals their illegal status, their exit of this country should be enforced. (I say as I prepare my taxes).

My expectations for Fort Worth, based on its history, are higher.

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"Mexico reiterates its legitimate right to protect the rights of its nationals in the United States and to determine its own policies regarding entry into its territory," the ministry said in a statement.

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It's infuriating to me that Mexico gets to have one border policy for its southern border and a different one for its northern border.

I'm warming to the idea of Trump and his missiles.

Texas velvet maestro said:

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Bubblez said:

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Austin, and Fort Worth. My Cow-Town fears coming true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

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Rather Fort Worth cops focus their efforts on those street takeover thugs and other crimes rather than checking everybody's papers.

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If someone is pulled over w no TX DL and is an illegal immigrant, they should go. Or any other violation or process reveals their illegal status, their exit of this country should be enforced. (I say as I prepare my taxes).

My expectations for Fort Worth, based on its history, are higher.

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Plenty of people drive around without a driver's license. I don't necessarily see that as a reason to do any sort of immigration check just because the person has brown skin and speaks Spanish.

Because it's a crime. And you said you cared about that sort of thing. It's also required to have car insurance by law.

These big city police forces are shying away from a tougher more complicated job. The cities/towns with more manageable situations will hopefully do the right thing. But our big cities will be de facto sanctuaries. And NGO's w fresh printed money will be setting up major support.

It's a problem that starts with Biden's importing of illegals and open borders.

Why are we using the terms "immigrants" or "migrants"? They're illegal aliens. Emphasis on "illegal".

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Because it's a crime. And you said you cared about that sort of thing. It's also required to have car insurance by law.

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He doesn't really care. ACAB, remember? That's the mantra of his party when it comes to cops.

Bubblez said:

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Bubblez said:

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Austin, and Fort Worth. My Cow-Town fears coming true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/texas/article-13218805/texas-cops-migrants-arrests-sb4-greg-abbott-border.html

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/2024/03/20/fort-worth-police-say-sb-4-enforcement-should-be-left-to-federal--state-agents

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Rather Fort Worth cops focus their efforts on those street takeover thugs and other crimes rather than checking everybody's papers.

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If someone is pulled over w no TX DL and is an illegal immigrant, they should go. Or any other violation or process reveals their illegal status, their exit of this country should be enforced. (I say as I prepare my taxes).

My expectations for Fort Worth, based on its history, are higher.

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Plenty of people drive around without a driver's license. I don't necessarily see that as a reason to do any sort of immigration check just because the person has brown skin and speaks Spanish.

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How about black skin and speaking Haitian French and speaking Swahili, or brownish skin speaking Mandarin or Pashto, or white skin speaking Russian?

I'm for throwing all of them out of the country.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Because it's a crime. And you said you cared about that sort of thing. It's also required to have car insurance by law.

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Sure, it is a crime. Handle the situation like any other case where the driver does not have a license.

Bubblez said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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I support our local law enforcement catching people who are committing crimes regardless of their immigration status rather than distracting them with other duties.

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Illegal aliens have committed a crime.

Corrupt politicians aiding and abetting illegals to flood our country and undermine our system of government to the detriment of law-abiding citizens seems to me a crime of seminal importance.

RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

Bubblez said:

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Plenty of people drive around without a driver's license. I don't necessarily see that as a reason to do any sort of immigration check just because the person has brown skin and speaks Spanish.

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"Bubbblez," from the Canadian trailer park guys show?

No, not a straw man. We have laws; why do you want further government entanglement?

Bubblez said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Because it's a crime. And you said you cared about that sort of thing. It's also required to have car insurance by law.

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Sure, it is a crime. Handle the situation like any other case where the driver does not have a license.

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What's the proper procedure when pulling someone over and they fail to identify?

barbacoa taco said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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Maybe Congress should've submitted a bill that actually addresses the issue rather than send more money to Ukraine to be laundered for them.

We already have laws on the books that will address this issue. This administration is simply refusing to do one of the jobs they were sworn to do.

Also, every single illegal alien has committed a crime. All of 'em. Their presence on our side of the border makes them so.

barbacoa taco said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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If only the executive would enforce the laws on the books.

oh wait.

barbacoa taco said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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How many times do people here have to beat you over the head about that "border bill" for you to quit claiming that it fixed anything? It's so stupid how you libs just completely ignore the Biden administrations complete refusal to secure the border with the laws on hand while you blame conservatives for not passing a garbage bill.

Your title is fake news! Fort Worth PD says immigration is a state and federal issue. At no point does it say or insinuate that Fort Worth is inviting illegals!

Slicer97 said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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Maybe Congress should've submitted a bill that actually addresses the issue rather than send more money to Ukraine to be laundered for them.

Also, every single illegal alien has committed a crime. All of 'em. Their presence on our side of the border makes them so.

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Congress did pass a bill that allocated over a billion dollars to building a wall and Biden went and spent it on whatever other BS he wanted to. Now he is being told by a federal judge he is violating administrative law by ignoring the border.

it wasn't perfect but it did a helluva lot to address the problem.

and the reason i know all the attacks on it are bull**** was because the same people who negotiated it torpedoed it SOLELY for political reasons. they can all go **** themselves.

barbacoa taco said:

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it wasn't perfect but it did a helluva lot to address the problem.

and the reason i know all the attacks on it are bull**** was because the same people who negotiated it torpedoed it SOLELY for political reasons. they can all go **** themselves.

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Couldn't have described Trump better. Thank you for that.

Slicer97 said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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Maybe Congress should've submitted a bill that actually addresses the issue rather than send more money to Ukraine to be laundered for them.

We already have laws on the books that will address this issue. This administration is simply refusing to do one of the jobs they were sworn to do.

Also, every single illegal alien has committed a crime. All of 'em. Their presence on our side of the border makes them so.

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and local and state level law enforcement only have limited resources. it's going to be a mess if and when they start enforcing SB4 and won't do anything to solve the problem.

barbacoa taco said:

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it wasn't perfect but it did a helluva lot to address the problem.

and the reason i know all the attacks on it are bull**** was because the same people who negotiated it torpedoed it SOLELY for political reasons. they can all go **** themselves.

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Only in your liberal mind did that bill fix jack squat. The attacks on it were warranted. Your President does not need any bill to secure the border. He and his administration are refusing to do so, yet you will never admit that. You will just continue to bash conservatives for not wanting a terrible bill passed.

barbacoa taco said:

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Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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Enforcing the laws already on the books is an actual solution to the border crisis. It's just the senile idiot you elected chooses not to do it and blame Republicans instead. Passing more laws doesn't mean crap if the people in charge act like children and refuse to enforce them.

barbacoa taco said:

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RanchoBrushyTop said:

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Why do you support open borders? Serious question.

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Straw man. SB4 isn't a solution to a problem, and being against it does not make one pro-open borders. It just invites more problems, including racially profiling people and arbitrarily detaining them. The state can't deport them, so drag them through the courts and lock them up, and then what? Especially given that illegal immigrants are more likely to be victims of a crime than actually commit crimes. It's a waste of time and resources.

Immigration reform is an actual solution to the border crisis. If only Congress could pass a bill addressing that directly.

oh wait.

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We read the border bill, it did not secure or fix immigration, quit lying. It was a fund Ukraine bill.

even if the Ukraine stuff was taken out the GOP would kill the bill just because Trump told them to

barbacoa taco said:

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even if the Ukraine stuff was taken out the GOP would kill the bill just because Trump told them to

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If your best defense is a counterfactual...

barbacoa taco said:

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even if the Ukraine stuff was taken out the GOP would kill the bill

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As they should. Why do we need more laws if the Executive branch is not even bothering to enforce the current laws. They will ignore the future laws as well.

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just because Trump told them to

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Troll post.

barbacoa taco said:

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even if the Ukraine stuff was taken out the GOP would kill the bill just because Trump told them to

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Still going with that line I see. Conservatives and Conservative politicians were tearing that bill to shreds before Trump ever said a thing about it. Keep spewing those false talking points though.

barbacoa taco said:

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even if the Ukraine stuff was taken out the GOP would kill the bill just because Trump told them to

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Well thats good because the bill did not secure the border. So what's your point?