Malibu said:

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Acually, I did mind, and have posted multiple times about my passionate disdain of MSM propaganda. But, other than that, ok.

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Except this isn't MSM. It's the candidate and ideology you support.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Malibu said:

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Acually, I did mind, and have posted multiple times about my passionate disdain of MSM propaganda. But, other than that, ok.

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Except this isn't MSM. It's the candidate and ideology you support.

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Its both the MSM and Biden. And apart from my not supporting Biden in 2024 and voting straight ticket R in the primaries, correct again.

Unhinged Trump Threatens More Violence By Promising To Trigger A 'Landslide' On Election Day https://t.co/wumgO01NKd pic.twitter.com/LceBme4FVv

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) March 18, 2024

annie88 said:

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It wasn't a dictatorship before not will it be now. But if you want to compare anyone to Hitler and the Nazis, it would be the current pants pooper dementia patient pervert in the White House and his party. The crap they had pushed over the last three years is something I never thought I'd see in America in my lifetime even from Democrats.

Every damn time Democrats and liberals claim Trump is doing the very stuff that they are. Every ****ing time.

We are already in a dictatorship. I cannot wait til it is gone. Bye Biden Administration.

— SamanthaJBryant (@SamanthaJBryan1) December 5, 2023

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This idiocracy sounds like Krugman after Trump won in 2016:

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Could a Trump presidency turn into a dictatorship? The odds are good, Robert Kagan writes.

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Krugman in 2016:

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It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover?
Frankly, I find it hard to care much, even though this is my specialty. The disaster for America and the world has so many aspects that the economic ramifications are way down my list of things to fear.
Still, I guess people want an answer: If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.

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I wonder if these idiots realize what a Streisand Effect this has been for Trump and this was all "Fire for Effect"

Where did he even give this speech? I have no idea, was it a rally? Still, no clue.

I have watched his speech though, which I wouldn't have without the obvious bloviating lie.....

How many others watched a speech that he gave in some venue that millions would not have known about had they not made this **** up out of whole cloth? Sure, there are also dumb people that believe the media lies.

Which group is larger? I have no idea....

He's getting them whipped up again to help him win again...and they have zero self-awareness to it...

Just like he did in 2016.

You had me at "The left lies"

Is there a single liberal that will claim the media response would have been the same if Biden had said the same thing Verbatim? Before you claim it's (D)ifferent because of J6 or some other such nonsense, remember the violent destructive rampage your fellow degenerates went on the summer of 2020 and try to be less of a hypocrite than you normally are.

Probably. I am not one of them. Say that the exact same fact pattern and chain of events (claimed election fraud, pressure on VP, alternate "electors", J6) happened but it was in 2012 and the President was Barack Obama. In your humble opinion, what would have been the response of the MSM, conservative media, and TexAgs?

Even the liberal Christians I know where bending over backwards to excuse the horrifying violence that we saw in the Summer of 2020. Most of these same people wanted us severely punished for not getting the fake vaccine.

i just find it funny that the actual party of violence, destruction and tyranny is always accusing the right of that which they are guilty.

Bunch of freaks. Shun them.

Malibu said:

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Probably. I am not one of them. Say that the exact same fact pattern and chain of events (claimed election fraud, pressure on VP, alternate "electors", J6) happened but it was in 2012 and the President was Barack Obama. In your humble opinion, what would have been the response of the MSM, conservative media, and TexAgs?

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Did the FBI (weaponized by Republicans) actually collude with private sector (big tech and media) to rig/influence the election in favor of their Republican candidate in your scenario? Did the actual election process look shady as hell in multiple states? Because if this was all the case, I would certainly understand their complaints. I would thinks..."FINALLY, the left actually has a worthy cause or gripe".

I would be highly against Republicans using the alphabate agencies to sway elections, which is what the dems actually did. This has been proven and cannot be refuted. We are not like dems. Most of us HATE cheating and cheaters and do not want to win that way.

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One would be either a liar or a moron if they were to claim he meant anything other than an economic outcome. Trying to take it out of context as some sort of physical threat is idiotic at best. Sometimes what you perceive as an insult is just someone making a legitimate observation.

The left got caught in a blatant lie, you know it, I know it, and you know that I know that you know it, yet you'll still attempt to goal tend. Just take the L on this one and show that there is even a tiny shred of intellectual honesty in there.

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'Trying to take it out of context'

• Taking statements out of context has become an art form for the Democratic Party leadership and the MSM.
• Both groups have no ethics, morals or honor.

Saul Alinsky quotes

• The organizers first job is to create the issues or problems, and organizations must be based on many issues. The organizer must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.
• Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

Notice that some posters in support of the Democratic Party leadership and the MSM bull**** and lies seem to have much in common with Saul Alinsky.

Malibu said:

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Probably. I am not one of them. Say that the exact same fact pattern and chain of events (claimed election fraud, pressure on VP, alternate "electors", J6) happened but it was in 2012 and the President was Barack Obama. In your humble opinion, what would have been the response of the MSM, conservative media, and TexAgs?

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As El Gallo Blanco points out there's a lot of context that needs to be considered if we're going to discuss "the fact pattern and chain of events". More so than what he just alluded to. Democrats are far from innocent in the lead up to the 2020 election and the events that happened after.

To keep it simple and ignoring the much larger "fact pattern and chain of events" leading up to those you mentioned, let's keep your version of events as a hypothetical that's missing a lot of context to be fair. Under that hypothetical, then roles would likely be reversed. The MSM would cover for Obama, the MUCH smaller conservative media would be calling Obama a cheat, as would TexAgs. I don't think the latter two would have taken the quote out of context to insinuate he is going to incite violence. The conservative media is too small to have that kind of pull and TexAgs is not a monolithic thought block like the MSM. I find conservative media to be almost as insufferable as the liberal MSM, which is sad, because they shouldn't need to be. The truth about the Democrat party and the Republican party is what we really need to effectuate positive change in this country. There's no need to bloviate, falsify, or grandstand from either side, not that those in the liberal press give a damn about this country.

That being said, there's ZERO chance Obama would have State AGs or a special prosecutor prosecuting him. It would also be much harder for Republicans to pull off that kind of alleged election fraud, because they don't have the press and bureaucrats covering for them or inner city political power.

At the end of the day, none of the events mentioned above matters to the point I was making. This didn't start with Trump, the MSM has been covering for Democrats and relentlessly attacking Republicans for as long as I've been paying attention to politics, which is admittedly only the first W term and to a lesser extent watching coverage of the Clinton scandal when I was a kid. There is Zero chance the MSM would have taken Biden's words out of context to insinuate that he was going to incite violence. If you truly believe Trump's behavior is the difference, then you must also examine the behavior of Democrats who often incite violence.

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Many of the people you are addressing don't even care for Trump but have the honesty to admit that the media is massively lying and distorting his meaning here as they and the Democrats have done countless times to both him and other Republicans. "fine people", "Russian collusion", "J6 was an insurrection" etc.

The fact you continue to double down on your own stupidity doesn't mean this board is a cult of Trump.

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Your statement is absolutely correct. I get so tired of the non-ending trope that anyone defending President Trump are a cult or other disparaging terms.

Lock him up! pic.twitter.com/1i61jfFkq3

— Ivan Trumpovic (@QualityTweets78) March 18, 2024