Rocag said:
Believing that conservatives haven't done the exact same to liberals is terribly naive.
Even on this forum anyone to the left of Mitt Romney is accused of being a communist who wants to turn the country into Venezuela.
The thing is, does the "Republican Party" have any real policies anymore other than doing what Trump wants? This isn't hyperbole. It's a legitimate concern. Trump completely owns the party, through and through. Anyone who speaks out against him within the party is either ousted or shunned. There is no room for disagreement with him. just look at the RNC purge from yesterday. I bet all of those folks were all in on Trump, but maybe they weren't quite loyal enough. Anyone worth a damn who was in his cabinet resigned or was fired for not being faithful enough.Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
Bubblez said:
Assuming Trump is on the ballot, I am voting Biden / Harris.
If a reasonable mainstream Republican was on the ballot, then my vote likely would be different.
barbacoa taco said:The thing is, does the "Republican Party" have any real policies anymore other than doing what Trump wants? This isn't hyperbole. It's a legitimate concern. Trump completely owns the party, through and through. Anyone who speaks out against him within the party is either ousted or shunned. There is no room for disagreement with him. just look at the RNC purge from yesterday. I bet all of those folks were all in on Trump, but maybe they weren't quite loyal enough. Anyone worth a damn who was in his cabinet resigned or was fired for not being faithful enough.Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
This is the kind of stuff that scares me. Yes, this is how it all starts. Trump is a wannabe dictator and isn't shy about it. He's a criminal, and a traitor to the country who tries to rip up the constitution when it stands in his way. He wants to use his power to exact revenge on his political enemies. He's erratic, unpredictable, and acts like a mob boss. But deep down he's mostly broken. He needs therapy, and the American people shouldn't be the subjects of a crazy man's therapy session.
So yeah. I (like many on my side) aren't happy BIden is running again. No one wants to vote for a guy in his 80s. But it's a clear no brainer here. Biden is an old man who has passed some good legislation (infrastructure act, chips and science act) and fallen short in many ways. Trump is a megalomaniac who has no agenda other than getting revenge on people. I'm legitimately scared for my kids' future if Trump is elected again. It will be so much uglier and nastier than his first term. This isn't a close call. I'll be there on the first day of early voting to vote Biden (and Colin Allred). The GOP of today is a truly disgusting institution that needs to be resoundingly defeated.
barbacoa taco said:The thing is, does the "Republican Party" have any real policies anymore other than doing what Trump wants? This isn't hyperbole. It's a legitimate concern. Trump completely owns the party, through and through. Anyone who speaks out against him within the party is either ousted or shunned. There is no room for disagreement with him. just look at the RNC purge from yesterday. I bet all of those folks were all in on Trump, but maybe they weren't quite loyal enough. Anyone worth a damn who was in his cabinet resigned or was fired for not being faithful enough.Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
This is the kind of stuff that scares me. Yes, this is how it all starts. Trump is a wannabe dictator and isn't shy about it. He's a criminal, and a traitor to the country who tries to rip up the constitution when it stands in his way. He wants to use his power to exact revenge on his political enemies. He's erratic, unpredictable, and acts like a mob boss. But deep down he's mostly broken. He needs therapy, and the American people shouldn't be the subjects of a crazy man's therapy session.
So yeah. I (like many on my side) aren't happy BIden is running again. No one wants to vote for a guy in his 80s. But it's a clear no brainer here. Biden is an old man who has passed some good legislation (infrastructure act, chips and science act) and fallen short in many ways. Trump is a megalomaniac who has no agenda other than getting revenge on people. I'm legitimately scared for my kids' future if Trump is elected again. It will be so much uglier and nastier than his first term. This isn't a close call. I'll be there on the first day of early voting to vote Biden (and Colin Allred). The GOP of today is a truly disgusting institution that needs to be resoundingly defeated.
It's not mocking, it's the truth.barbacoa taco said:
mocking is what people do when they have no defense to what the other person is saying
Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
lol how do you defend the indefensible Biden is a disaster.barbacoa taco said:
mocking is what people do when they have no defense to what the other person is saying
"All I want is for my guy to be able to shred the Constitution, behave like a dictator, and punish the political enemies I don't like....just not the other guy!"Quote:
"Nooooo!!! All that peace and prosperity was awful! I want 4 more years of inflation, division and WW3 because Orange Man bad in vague ways that Share Blue tells me!"
now do the border under Bidenbarbacoa taco said:
1) the USA has handled inflation well compared to other western countries
2) division? Trump is the most divisive president we've had in recent history. Everything he does is divisive
3) WW3... I don't agree with how Biden has handled the Israel/Hamas war but Trump has made it clear he'd be way more aggressive and brutal. He'd also withdraw all support from Ukraine and encourage Putin to further invade. Also I can't believe this needs to be said but WE DONT HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN EITHER PLACE.
But...he's a good father who tries real hard and passes some good things. He never punishes his enemies, ignores laws, or behaves like a dictator. Team Blue!John Armfield said:lol how do you defend the indefensible Biden is a disaster.barbacoa taco said:
mocking is what people do when they have no defense to what the other person is saying
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Even on this forum anyone to the left of Mitt Romney is accused of being a communist who wants to turn the country into Venezuela.
Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
What you just described is the democrat party from about 1990-2010. The complete purge of anything that wasn't radical left. The bellwether moment for me was when Joe Lieberman was purged from the party. If you aren't on board with the progressive leftist agenda at ANY level, you are eliminated, politically speaking. I mean you have Soros funding local municipal level elections for crying out loud.barbacoa taco said:The thing is, does the "Republican Party" have any real policies anymore other than doing what Trump wants? This isn't hyperbole. It's a legitimate concern. Trump completely owns the party, through and through. Anyone who speaks out against him within the party is either ousted or shunned. There is no room for disagreement with him. just look at the RNC purge from yesterday. I bet all of those folks were all in on Trump, but maybe they weren't quite loyal enough. Anyone worth a damn who was in his cabinet resigned or was fired for not being faithful enough.Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
This is the kind of stuff that scares me. Yes, this is how it all starts. Trump is a wannabe dictator and isn't shy about it. He's a criminal, and a traitor to the country who tries to rip up the constitution when it stands in his way. He wants to use his power to exact revenge on his political enemies. He's erratic, unpredictable, and acts like a mob boss. But deep down he's mostly broken. He needs therapy, and the American people shouldn't be the subjects of a crazy man's therapy session.
So yeah. I (like many on my side) aren't happy BIden is running again. No one wants to vote for a guy in his 80s. But it's a clear no brainer here. Biden is an old man who has passed some good legislation (infrastructure act, chips and science act) and fallen short in many ways. Trump is a megalomaniac who has no agenda other than getting revenge on people. I'm legitimately scared for my kids' future if Trump is elected again. It will be so much uglier and nastier than his first term. This isn't a close call. I'll be there on the first day of early voting to vote Biden (and Colin Allred). The GOP of today is a truly disgusting institution that needs to be resoundingly defeated.
I have just polled all of my dead relatives... Apparently they are all voting Democratic, was I surprised!v1rotate92 said:
Just an informal poll…
Please list the top 3 policies of the democrat party platform that you support and think are better for America.Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
Sadly your long post is squishy. Don't run away from your feelings.barbacoa taco said:
mocking is what people do when they have no defense to what the other person is saying
Old Army Metal said:
Yeah what's up. Y'all just wanna have a go at me on a Tuesday morning for no good reason or what.
If you don't think Trumpism has infested the GOP at all levels, then you have your head in the sand.American Hardwood said:What you just described is the democrat party from about 1990-2010. The complete purge of anything that wasn't radical left. The bellwether moment for me was when Joe Lieberman was purged from the party. If you aren't on board with the progressive leftist agenda at ANY level, you are eliminated, politically speaking. I mean you have Soros funding local municipal level elections for crying out loud.barbacoa taco said:The thing is, does the "Republican Party" have any real policies anymore other than doing what Trump wants? This isn't hyperbole. It's a legitimate concern. Trump completely owns the party, through and through. Anyone who speaks out against him within the party is either ousted or shunned. There is no room for disagreement with him. just look at the RNC purge from yesterday. I bet all of those folks were all in on Trump, but maybe they weren't quite loyal enough. Anyone worth a damn who was in his cabinet resigned or was fired for not being faithful enough.Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
This is the kind of stuff that scares me. Yes, this is how it all starts. Trump is a wannabe dictator and isn't shy about it. He's a criminal, and a traitor to the country who tries to rip up the constitution when it stands in his way. He wants to use his power to exact revenge on his political enemies. He's erratic, unpredictable, and acts like a mob boss. But deep down he's mostly broken. He needs therapy, and the American people shouldn't be the subjects of a crazy man's therapy session.
So yeah. I (like many on my side) aren't happy BIden is running again. No one wants to vote for a guy in his 80s. But it's a clear no brainer here. Biden is an old man who has passed some good legislation (infrastructure act, chips and science act) and fallen short in many ways. Trump is a megalomaniac who has no agenda other than getting revenge on people. I'm legitimately scared for my kids' future if Trump is elected again. It will be so much uglier and nastier than his first term. This isn't a close call. I'll be there on the first day of early voting to vote Biden (and Colin Allred). The GOP of today is a truly disgusting institution that needs to be resoundingly defeated.
You wrong about the republicans though. Trumpism does certainly have it's influence at a national level, but at the state and local level it is a more of a push of traditional conservatism. The GOP IS moving right, but it isn't all about Trump. Trump is more a populist with some conservative leanings, some not. The only purging going on of any scale in the GOP is rejecting RINO's.
And as for as Trump as a dictator, he was president for 4 years. He was handed his dictator moment on a silver platter with covid and he did not take the tyrannical course, so your great fears seem extremely hollow.
It really is amazing how virtually every single word of your post has ALREADY been done by the party you support and you don't even see it. Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.
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Warning signs are flashing by us, but we pay no heed,
'Stead of slowing down the pace, we keep a pickin' up speed.
As a bad motorcycle with the devil in the seat,
Doin' 90 miles an hour down a dead end street.
- Ninety Miles an Hour (Down a Dead End Street)
barbacoa taco said:The thing is, does the "Republican Party" have any real policies anymore other than doing what Trump wants? This isn't hyperbole. It's a legitimate concern. Trump completely owns the party, through and through. Anyone who speaks out against him within the party is either ousted or shunned. There is no room for disagreement with him. just look at the RNC purge from yesterday. I bet all of those folks were all in on Trump, but maybe they weren't quite loyal enough. Anyone worth a damn who was in his cabinet resigned or was fired for not being faithful enough.Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
This is the kind of stuff that scares me. Yes, this is how it all starts. Trump is a wannabe dictator and isn't shy about it. He's a criminal, name a crime he has been convicted of. Go ahead. I will wait and a traitor to the country who tries to rip up the constitution when it stands in his way. these are wonderful propaganda statements. And yet if he had done any of those things he would be in prison right now. Please tell me how is that not possible after 8 years of investigations and the Russia hoax being proven to be a collusion effort on behalf of the GBI, CIA, AND THE CLINTONS) He wants to use his power to exact revenge on his political enemies. He's erratic, unpredictable, and acts like a mob boss. But deep down he's mostly broken. He needs therapy, And yet you will say voting for a man who showers with his daughters is the right thing to do. Hmmmmm and the American people shouldn't be the subjects of a crazy man's therapy session.
So yeah. I (like many on my side) aren't happy BIden is running again. No one wants to vote for a guy in his 80s. But it's a clear no brainer here. Biden is an old man who has passed some good legislation (infrastructure act, chips and science act) infrastructure act did nothing. I am assuming microchips. We just had posts on here outlining how DEI insertions made all the chip makers he was courting choose to manufacture abroad instead. Science act? LOL it was such good legislation i have never heard of it. Bidenomics? 50% inflation says his policies suck. Closing down pipelines. Eliminating oil and gas leases. Endless foreign wars. Great policies definitely worth voting forand fallen short in many ways. Trump is a megalomaniac who has no agenda other than getting revenge on people. I'm legitimately scared for my kids' future if Trump is elected again. Everyone says this when their argument or the person they vote against has nothing worth voting for. If you are voting this way then you have been brainwashed by the system. Congrats. The democrats platform has always been one of fear "Bush hates black people" "Romney will out you back in chains" "Trump hates women and gays and will put you in internment camps". If you can't see a pattern here then you are beyond helpIt will be so much uglier and nastier than his first term. This isn't a close call. I'll be there on the first day of early voting to vote Biden (and Colin Allred). The GOP of today is a truly disgusting institution that needs to be resoundingly defeated.
Democrats in the 90s were pretty much moderate Republicans today. Clinton was not a progressive. At all. Right now the Dems are insufferable with their purity tests on everyone. I agree that we should be critical of our leaders, but if anything the left is pretty split at the moment, between progressives and liberals.American Hardwood said:What you just described is the democrat party from about 1990-2010. The complete purge of anything that wasn't radical left. The bellwether moment for me was when Joe Lieberman was purged from the party. If you aren't on board with the progressive leftist agenda at ANY level, you are eliminated, politically speaking. I mean you have Soros funding local municipal level elections for crying out loud.barbacoa taco said:The thing is, does the "Republican Party" have any real policies anymore other than doing what Trump wants? This isn't hyperbole. It's a legitimate concern. Trump completely owns the party, through and through. Anyone who speaks out against him within the party is either ousted or shunned. There is no room for disagreement with him. just look at the RNC purge from yesterday. I bet all of those folks were all in on Trump, but maybe they weren't quite loyal enough. Anyone worth a damn who was in his cabinet resigned or was fired for not being faithful enough.Rocag said:
Is it so hard for you to accept that I believe the policies I support are better for America and its citizens than the alternatives put forward by the Republican Party? If we default to calling those that disagree with us evil / supporters of evil there's really no hope for intelligent political discourse.
This is the kind of stuff that scares me. Yes, this is how it all starts. Trump is a wannabe dictator and isn't shy about it. He's a criminal, and a traitor to the country who tries to rip up the constitution when it stands in his way. He wants to use his power to exact revenge on his political enemies. He's erratic, unpredictable, and acts like a mob boss. But deep down he's mostly broken. He needs therapy, and the American people shouldn't be the subjects of a crazy man's therapy session.
So yeah. I (like many on my side) aren't happy BIden is running again. No one wants to vote for a guy in his 80s. But it's a clear no brainer here. Biden is an old man who has passed some good legislation (infrastructure act, chips and science act) and fallen short in many ways. Trump is a megalomaniac who has no agenda other than getting revenge on people. I'm legitimately scared for my kids' future if Trump is elected again. It will be so much uglier and nastier than his first term. This isn't a close call. I'll be there on the first day of early voting to vote Biden (and Colin Allred). The GOP of today is a truly disgusting institution that needs to be resoundingly defeated.
You wrong about the republicans though. Trumpism does certainly have it's influence at a national level, but at the state and local level it is a more of a push of traditional conservatism. The GOP IS moving right, but it isn't all about Trump. Trump is more a populist with some conservative leanings, some not. The only purging going on of any scale in the GOP is rejecting RINO's.
And as for as Trump as a dictator, he was president for 4 years. He was handed his dictator moment on a silver platter with covid and he did not take the tyrannical course, so your great fears seem extremely hollow.
It really is amazing how virtually every single word of your post has ALREADY been done by the party you support and you don't even see it. Cognitive dissonance is strong with you.
