A24's 'Civil War' Film Provokes Raft of Conspiracy Theories and Fear

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The film's trailer was released in Jan. and shows an America in chaos. Director Alex Garland imagines a situation where Texas and California team up to militarily face down the United States government a concept that seems decidedly absurd in real life since Texas and California are diametrically opposed politically meanwhile, another military force called the "Florida Alliance" pursues its own goals. And all the while, the U.S. president who is in his "third term" arrests journalists, locks down Washington D.C., and launches massive military strikes against American citizens.

It is a dystopian film that shows the American experiment coming to a bloody and violent end.

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Saw this trailer in the theater last weekend....certainly looked interesting despite the producer's efforts to attempt some sort of weird neutrality in the trailer by combining Texas and California.



ETA: To make it political..

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"The idea of another American civil war happening today actually keeps me up at night," one left-wing person wrote online, according to the Hollywood Reporter. "This is a movie that I want to keep far away from. Even if it's based on a political scenario so far removed from our own. I just do not want to entertain the notion of something so horrible."

"A movie about a second American Civil War in an election year in which the second American Civil War is a serious concern among law-enforcement and rational people alike?" said another.
One said that there are "right-wingers" that are like "Timothy McVeigh" who think this movie is "exactly what this country needs," and hatefully added, "The potential danger is that [right-wing] groups are not known for media literacy or nuance. And a psychotic gang of rednecks committing terrorism [in the film] to 'own the libs' might be obvious criticism to us, but might be interpreted as a role model to MAGA groups if not portrayed carefully."

Another left-winger scoffed at worries that the film will spark violence, and said, "I guarantee you that the MAGA/Qanon people do not need an Alex Garland auteur piece to commit acts of violence."
Meanwhile, folks on the right see the film as revealing the left's plans for America.

"They're literally projecting exactly where we're headed. Texas protecting our Southern border will be the catalyst that sets it off. We're entering a dark phase in our history and the current Traitor-in-Chief is absolutely at fault," one Trump supporter wrote.

Another right-leaning commenter said that the film is the left's effort of "predictive programming" because they want to launch a war against America and the film's producers "are preparing the public for what's to come."

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Garland must be reading Texags too much.

I do find it humorous that some people are going into a fictional Civil War film, like, "Texas and California would never team up."

Bro, it's a movie. Just enjoy it.

Looks like typical Hollywood garbage.

There won't be a civil war. Very few people want to throw their lives away for stupid nonsense.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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There won't be a civil war. Very few people want to throw their lives away for stupid nonsense.

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All will be one under the red flag and the golden hammer and sickle eh Komrade?

Journalism today is literally just copy pasting other peoples comments and calling it news. The quotes in the OP are proof of that.

BassCowboy33 said:

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I do find it humorous that some people are going into a fictional Civil War film, like, "Texas and California would never team up."

Bro, it's a movie. Just enjoy it.

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Suspension of Disbelief has its limits

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Journalism today is literally just copy pasting other peoples comments and calling it news. The quotes in the OP are proof of that.

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There's a news broadcast in Dallas that has a segment where some lady just stands there and just reads tweets.

We've become really dumb.

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Journalism today is literally just copy pasting other peoples comments and calling it news. The quotes in the OP are proof of that.

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Amazing that they will quote reddit users. I am seeing this more and more in mainstream news. Seriously, it could be some random 13 year old. They probably make the post on the site and then quote it.
Breaking news!
MSNBC just reported that seaspeed on texags thinks that journalism is dead. Several other people starred the post.

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Sea Speed said:

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Journalism today is literally just copy pasting other peoples comments and calling it news. The quotes in the OP are proof of that.

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Amazing that they will quote reddit users. I am seeing this more and more in mainstream news. Seriously, it could be some random 13 year old. They probably make the post on the site and then quote it.
Breaking news!
MSNBC just reported that seaspeed on texags thinks that journalism is dead. Several other people starred the post.

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To be fair, the world of social media means that, more often than not, journalists are finding out info at the same time as the general public. It's the world of live-streaming news as it's happening, especially breaking. Depending on the story, part of newscasts become aggregation, also depending on station philosophy.

Ironically, the rise of social media has meant the devaluation of journalism. There are no longer gatekeepers or filters. Everything is just there for anybody. A complete smorgasbord of information, a huge chunk of it incorrect.

Gone are the days of of afternoon editions, fact checking, and learning what happened today, tomorrow. On the flip side, it's also created a precipitous rise in bad information, because the line between citizen, journalist, and rabble rouser isn't always clear (and the definitions are malleable based on if you agree with that report or not). I mean, most people on this site don't know the difference in news and an op-ed.

The premise of CA an TX teaming up is actually fairly well thought out in the movie universe. Both states, for different reasons, decide they are far better off as independent nation states than staying bound to Washington. Once both go their separate ways and aren't constantly trolling each other in domestic affairs, there's ordinary commerce and statesmanship between states that share a similar language, culture, commerce, etc. Throw a vengeful USA in the mix that refuses to accept the breakup, there's now a common enemy that requires cooperation for both states mutual self-interest.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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There won't be a civil war. Very few people want to throw their lives away for stupid nonsense.

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I'm glad you feel that way. Remember that when your leftist buddies keep poking the bear.

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The premise of CA an TX teaming up is actually fairly well thought out in the movie universe. Both states, for different reasons, decide they are far better off as independent nation states than staying bound to Washington. Once both go their separate ways and aren't constantly trolling each other in domestic affairs, there's ordinary commerce and statesmanship between states that share a similar language, culture, commerce, etc. Throw a vengeful USA in the mix that refuses to accept the breakup, there's now a common enemy that requires cooperation for both states mutual self-interest.

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Nice. Pretty close to exactly the scenario I proposed on the Entertainment Board discussion.

There are so many possibilities that could lead to both Texas and CA telling DC adios. If, you're willing to entertain, even just for fun, a splitting of the nation. From there, it is not illogical that TX and CA could find common ground for numerous mutually beneficial reasons (mostly security and economics). And frankly we'd probably all be happier for the divorce.

The left is using facial recognition gotten from Apple and Samsung to identify all those who see this movie. The movie attendees will be arrested and thrown in jail with the Jan 6 people to stop us from destroying democracy and becoming facists and racists by voting for somebody else to run America instead of democrats.

Honestly

Considering what the left is willfully doing to this country it is inevitable at this point. And I think they know that and are banking they can win.

Why else continue to import millions of military aged males from backwards countries who will only take more from them and their base voters? It's not like they actually care about them.

As the preview said, all empires fall. Historically, that is mostly correct. I see this in my sons and their friends. Young male Americans are absolutely rejecting the lunacy of the left. And guess what, they are testosterone fueled too just like the third world commies the left imports.

We are in for very rough times.

The white liberal is evil.

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There won't be a civil war. Very few people want to throw their lives away for stupid nonsense.

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I think you're right. I think we will continue our downward spiral until we're a shell of what we once were. We'll probably descend into some type of communist/socialist state with pockets of resistance around the country. But we're ****ed! We'll never again be what we were and what our promise was.

"Jericho" covered it well.

One of the best series ever.

Jericho TV Series

BassCowboy33 said:

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most people on this site don't know the difference in news and an op-ed.

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Most people IN GENERAL don't know the difference. They see Rachel Maddow or Dan Bongino spouting opinions for ten minutes, and they think that it is "news."

yes, it does seem to be especially prevalent here. What percentage of threads start with "Talking Head X says that …"

And the person being quoted is often some rando blogger with 623 subscribers, completely unknown to 99% of the populace.

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BassCowboy33 said:

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most people on this site don't know the difference in news and an op-ed.

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Most people IN GENERAL don't know the difference. They see Rachel Maddow or Dan Bongino spouting opinions for ten minutes, and they think that it is "news."

yes, it does seem to be especially prevalent here. What percentage of threads start with "Talking Head X says that …"

And the person being quoted is often some rando completely unknown to 99% of the populace.

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Hell, even traditional news site pass off op-eds as news.

For example, Cnn regularly puts an oped at the top of their page but it has news headline. The small text is labeled "analysis." They try to pass it as news and I'm sure many people consider it as such.

I posted a Houston news story from should a couple days ago that definitely had no labels as to news or opinion. They reposted a heavily opinionated news article from the Texas tribune.

All that said, this a discussion board that is opinion based. We, in general, usually cannot even agree to what the facts are. We can't even agree to what a woman is anymore.

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Malibu said:

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The premise of CA an TX teaming up is actually fairly well thought out in the movie universe. Both states, for different reasons, decide they are far better off as independent nation states than staying bound to Washington. Once both go their separate ways and aren't constantly trolling each other in domestic affairs, there's ordinary commerce and statesmanship between states that share a similar language, culture, commerce, etc. Throw a vengeful USA in the mix that refuses to accept the breakup, there's now a common enemy that requires cooperation for both states mutual self-interest.

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Nice. Pretty close to exactly the scenario I proposed on the Entertainment Board discussion.

There are so many possibilities that could lead to both Texas and CA telling DC adios. If, you're willing to entertain, even just for fun, a splitting of the nation. From there, it is not illogical that TX and CA could find common ground for numerous mutually beneficial reasons (mostly security and economics). And frankly we'd probably all be happier for the divorce.

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the 600,000 dead Union soldiers from 1861-65 would not be happier.

BassCowboy33 said:

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I do find it humorous that some people are going into a fictional Civil War film, like, "Texas and California would never team up."

Bro, it's a movie. Just enjoy it.

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You're right, it's just a movie that people should want to watch to enjoy.

Sadly, there are people who want to get their rage on in everything. Twitter and Facebook are filled with those people, on both sides, and this movie, I'm sure, will create tons of posts for them when it comes out.

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BassCowboy33 said:

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I do find it humorous that some people are going into a fictional Civil War film, like, "Texas and California would never team up."

Bro, it's a movie. Just enjoy it.

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You're right, it's just a movie that people should want to watch to enjoy.

Sadly, there are people who want to get their rage on in everything. Twitter and Facebook are filled with those people, on both sides, and this movie, I'm sure, will create tons of posts for them when it comes out.

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I don't think that's it. This is about controlling a narrative. These guys don't like like this narrative, even if total fiction. Hell, they attack comedians if they make fun of the wrong thing.

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No Spin Ag said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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I do find it humorous that some people are going into a fictional Civil War film, like, "Texas and California would never team up."

Bro, it's a movie. Just enjoy it.

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You're right, it's just a movie that people should want to watch to enjoy.

Sadly, there are people who want to get their rage on in everything. Twitter and Facebook are filled with those people, on both sides, and this movie, I'm sure, will create tons of posts for them when it comes out.

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I don't think that's it. This is about controlling a narrative. These guys don't like like this narrative, even if total fiction. Hell, they attack comedians if they make fun of the wrong thing.

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I see where you're coming from, and the people who attack comedians are as idiotic in their views as humanly possible. The same for a movie that, while yes, may have an "angle", like all movies do, a movie has even less impact or influence than all other forms of media. People have to pay to watch a movie to get their beliefs (positive or negative) confirmed. It's much easier, and cheaper, just to stay home doom scrolling Twitter and Facebook.

No Spin Ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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I do find it humorous that some people are going into a fictional Civil War film, like, "Texas and California would never team up."

Bro, it's a movie. Just enjoy it.

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You're right, it's just a movie that people should want to watch to enjoy.

Sadly, there are people who want to get their rage on in everything. Twitter and Facebook are filled with those people, on both sides, and this movie, I'm sure, will create tons of posts for them when it comes out.

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I don't think that's it. This is about controlling a narrative. These guys don't like like this narrative, even if total fiction. Hell, they attack comedians if they make fun of the wrong thing.

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I see where you're coming from, and the people who attack comedians are as idiotic in their views as humanly possible. The same for a movie that, while yes, may have an "angle", like all movies do, a movie has even less impact or influence than all other forms of media. People have to pay to watch a movie to get their beliefs (positive or negative) confirmed. It's much easier, and cheaper, just to stay home doom scrolling Twitter and Facebook.

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The left uses movies as indoctrination of our younger folks. Using movies of any kind that projects any narrative they don't agree with to them is the right doing exactly what they do. And they can't stand it. Even if no motive exists, these left wing nut jobs don't care.

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Director Alex Garland imagines a situation where Texas and California team up to militarily face down the United States government

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Great another Hollywood fantasy movie..

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No Spin Ag said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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I do find it humorous that some people are going into a fictional Civil War film, like, "Texas and California would never team up."

Bro, it's a movie. Just enjoy it.

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You're right, it's just a movie that people should want to watch to enjoy.

Sadly, there are people who want to get their rage on in everything. Twitter and Facebook are filled with those people, on both sides, and this movie, I'm sure, will create tons of posts for them when it comes out.

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I don't think that's it. This is about controlling a narrative. These guys don't like like this narrative, even if total fiction. Hell, they attack comedians if they make fun of the wrong thing.

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I see where you're coming from, and the people who attack comedians are as idiotic in their views as humanly possible. The same for a movie that, while yes, may have an "angle", like all movies do, a movie has even less impact or influence than all other forms of media. People have to pay to watch a movie to get their beliefs (positive or negative) confirmed. It's much easier, and cheaper, just to stay home doom scrolling Twitter and Facebook.

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The left uses movies as indoctrination of our younger folks. Using movies of any kind that projects any narrative they don't agree with to them is the right doing exactly what they do. And they can't stand it. Even if no motive exists, these left wing nut jobs don't care.

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That's very true in so many of the movies that have come out that are as ESG or DEI (I don't recall the correct letters) and pretty much all of them failed horribly. And, again, if you don't want your child to see something, don't take them. Parents have been doing that with movies, granted for different reasons, for as long as anything has existed that they don't want their children exposed.

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Urban Ag said:

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The premise of CA an TX teaming up is actually fairly well thought out in the movie universe. Both states, for different reasons, decide they are far better off as independent nation states than staying bound to Washington. Once both go their separate ways and aren't constantly trolling each other in domestic affairs, there's ordinary commerce and statesmanship between states that share a similar language, culture, commerce, etc. Throw a vengeful USA in the mix that refuses to accept the breakup, there's now a common enemy that requires cooperation for both states mutual self-interest.

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Nice. Pretty close to exactly the scenario I proposed on the Entertainment Board discussion.

There are so many possibilities that could lead to both Texas and CA telling DC adios. If, you're willing to entertain, even just for fun, a splitting of the nation. From there, it is not illogical that TX and CA could find common ground for numerous mutually beneficial reasons (mostly security and economics). And frankly we'd probably all be happier for the divorce.

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the 600,000 dead Union soldiers from 1861-65 would not be happier.

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If those same Union soldiers with their overwhelmingly Judeo-Christian value-systems and faiths saw what the modern Democrat party is advocating in future of the nation they died to preserved- They'd join the Confederacy.

No way would anyone from mid 19th C America tolerate what we are becoming.

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Director Alex Garland imagines a situation where Texas and California team up to militarily face down the United States government

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Great another Hollywood fantasy movie..

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You being a Civil War buff, I'd think you would find this intriguing. Oh wait you are from the Midwest and advocate the flawless grand-ole Union.

Yeah seeing the old Rust Belt North hopelessly out manned and out gunned by Texas, Cali, and the old Confederacy, I mean the Florida Alliance would kinda suck. I mean they just dont matter that much these days.

There is a book series that is somewhat similar and it's a fascinating read. Society goes into utter chaos 3-days after an EMP. There are four books now in the series.

One Second After by William R. Forstchen

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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There won't be a civil war. Very few people want to throw their lives away for stupid nonsense.

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All will be one under the red flag and the golden hammer and sickle eh Komrade?

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What does that have to do with his point? People keep throwing out 'civil war' like its some thing that will have definite winners and losers and will be over quickly without disrupting peoples lives. That may be in the minds of some who subconsciously desire to be part of some kind of weird patriotic uprising. But to the point of his response....95% of Americans, when it comes down to it, will not choose for themselves or their families to experience suffering beyond the current status quo. And by status quo I mean the swinging of the pendulum that America has always seen, right to left, left to right but always moving back to the center.


We have a system in place to choose the direction of the country. And as long as it follows the constitution, So any idea of the U.S. becoming a communist nation in toto, it would cease being the U.S. and the majority of those on the right and the left aren't looking to do that at scale. Its the incremental things that we can still fight against, like the woke agenda, immigration policies, etc.

But no, there won't be another 'civil war'.

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There is a book series that is somewhat similar and it's a fascinating read. Society goes into utter chaos 3-days after an EMP. There are four books now in the series.

One Second After by William R. Forstchen

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I just read the reviews on Amazon and it looks like a great read.

Here comes the pearl-clutching again.

Good grief.

Look, Im the absolute FIRST person to say anyone advocating for a "national divorce" is a weaponized moron, but worrying about some movie is just stupid.

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Here comes the pearl-clutching again.

Good grief.

Look, Im the absolute FIRST person to say anyone advocating for a "national divorce" is a weaponized moron, but worrying about some movie is just stupid.

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Oh yeah, lets sing "All is Well". Times have never been better. The states, the 3 branches of gov are humming along better than ever. There are no problems.

Here is the opposite end of the spectrum the-- "'Look at Me'; see how smart I am. I just stick my fingers in my ears and close my eyes and call everyone a that sees a problem a 'weaponized moron.'"

History has proven it's people that think as you do that are the 'WTF morons'. How could you not see a problem here.

Like First Bull Run with the morons picnicing, laughing until the first bullet whizzed by their empty heads. Or the French Rev or Russian Revolutions when the first blades or bullets kissed their sleeping still in-denial targets.

Sure people can over react. And the really dumbs one UNDER react.

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eiggA2002 said:

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There is a book series that is somewhat similar and it's a fascinating read. Society goes into utter chaos 3-days after an EMP. There are four books now in the series.

One Second After by William R. Forstchen

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I just read the reviews on Amazon and it looks like a great read.

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The Forstchen novels are OUTSTANDING, but they are not remotely similar to this movie.