......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

Would much rather just be on our own again and determine our own fate.

Is zergling rush meant to be a comment about sending the cheapest units (illegal immigrants) into enemy territory to disrupt their economy?

Is that the meta?

Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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wow something no one has ever thought of.

and EXACTLY how do you propose that would happen?

specific details about how to do that under the Constitution.

or does the Constitution no longer matter to most of the Trumpers?

I would rather secede and take over Mexico. Wage war on the cartels and corruption and have a much easier border to control to the south.

Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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Just Chicago, NYC, LA, maybe Austin.

I'd rather we revert back to city-states after a certain size is met.

Secceed first, then invade CA.

I could write for Netflix...

Is that a fair thing to do for California conservatives who just about outnumber Texas conservatives?

Because the conservative/libertarian ideology tries not to impose it's desires onto others beyond what the Constitution says.

Texas can control it's own fate.
Libtopias can control their own fate.

Our current union has Libtopias forcing their ideologies onto conservative/libertarian areas, which is not sustainable long term.

OP has figured it out. Just kick those states out of the union. Brilliant!

Mexico believes that California belongs to it so perhaps they will annex it.

Algorithmic Epiphany said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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Just Chicago, NYC, LA, maybe Austin.

I'd rather we revert back to city-states after a certain size is met.

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You left out SF and the Bay Area.

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I would rather secede and take over Mexico. Wage war on the cartels and corruption and have a much easier border to control to the south.

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We would still have worry about our Northern border.

until someone details EXACTLY how in a constitutional republic you "kick out states" that you don't like

this is like listening to 4 year olds arguing over playdo

Struggle and Strifer said:

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I would rather secede and take over Mexico. Wage war on the cartels and corruption and have a much easier border to control to the south.

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A Mex/Tex "merger" would actually make a stupid amount of sense if you could somehow get rid of the significant levels of corruption. I honestly wouldn't care about the drug cartels if you could get them to act civilized like the US pharmaceutical & tobacco cartels.

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until someone details EXACTLY how in a constitutional republic you "kick out states" that you don't like

this is like listening to 4 year olds arguing over playdo

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Oh, so now the constituion matters? As I recall...it's a "living, breathing document"

agwrestler said:

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Secceed first, then invade CA.

I could write for Netflix...

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this would be the inevitable outcome to any breaking up of the united states. if this were to take place texas and any states that came with us would invade our neighbors and conquer them.

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Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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wow something no one has ever thought of.

and EXACTLY how do you propose that would happen?

specific details about how to do that under the Constitution.

or does the Constitution no longer matter to most of the Trumpers?

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Your TDS is flaring up again. What has Trump to do with the premise? Did you think the suggestion was really as serious one?

LMCane said:

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this is like listening to 4 year olds arguing over playdo

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This is the new forum slogan for F16.

LMCane said:

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or does the Constitution no longer matter to most of the Trumpers?

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Well, we know it doesn't matter to Dementia Joe.

Algorithmic Epiphany said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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Just Chicago, NYC, LA, maybe Austin.

I'd rather we revert back to city-states after a certain size is met.

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Here is the issue... It is not the states it is the urban centers. So a secession is not the states from the Union, but the urban centers from the rural areas. Just how would that work?

Every single one of our nation's problems would be solved overnight if we could somehow institutionalize or "quarantine" the vast majority of the modern left. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

Will any leader ever have the stomach to save this country from these evil wretched people that hate what is good, love what is evil, and are driven purely out of hatred and envy?

Nope. They will win, and this country (and the entire west) will fall.

LMCane said:

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until someone details EXACTLY how in a constitutional republic you "kick out states" that you don't like

this is like listening to 4 year olds arguing over playdo

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Since when do you Libs pay attention to the constitution?

agwrestler said:

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Secceed first, then invade CA.

I could write for Netflix...

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Not if you can't spell "secede".

LMCane said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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wow something no one has ever thought of.

and EXACTLY how do you propose that would happen?

specific details about how to do that under the Constitution.

or does the Constitution no longer matter to most of the Trumpers?

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1. He's a Trumper?
2. He's joking

doubledog said:

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Algorithmic Epiphany said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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Just Chicago, NYC, LA, maybe Austin.

I'd rather we revert back to city-states after a certain size is met.

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Here is the issue... It is not the states it is the urban centers. So a secession is not the states from the Union, but the urban centers from the rural areas. Just how would that work?

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Well...perhaps the same way things worked when the US "seceded" from Britain???

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John Adams wrote that approximately one-third of the American population supported the move for independence (Patriots), one-third of the population supported the king (Loyalists), and one-third supported neither side (neutral).

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After the split, I'm sure some will leave and others will just remain "the loyal opposition" in Texas as they were before.

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LMCane said:

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until someone details EXACTLY how in a constitutional republic you "kick out states" that you don't like

this is like listening to 4 year olds arguing over playdo

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Since when do you Libs pay attention to the constitution?

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Well, since it wouldn't be "Libs" doing the kicking out, it would be conservatives, don't you think the CONSERVATIVES should pay attention to the Constitution?

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Sharpshooter said:

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LMCane said:

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until someone details EXACTLY how in a constitutional republic you "kick out states" that you don't like

this is like listening to 4 year olds arguing over playdo

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Since when do you Libs pay attention to the constitution?

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Well, since it wouldn't be "Libs" doing the kicking out, it would be conservatives, don't you think the CONSERVATIVES should pay attention to the Constitution?

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How about just making a law that makes it illegal for government to aid any state that goes bankrupt? If a state goes bankrupt, they must leave the US until they pay ALL their debts.

Would that be more applicable?

Or, how about a law that when a state goes bankrupt, another state (or two) is allowed to pay their debts and then remove that state from senate/house representatives. Those go to the states bailing them out.

Better?

When Cali can't pay their bonds, they should lose their right to govern.

Science Denier said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Sharpshooter said:

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LMCane said:

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until someone details EXACTLY how in a constitutional republic you "kick out states" that you don't like

this is like listening to 4 year olds arguing over playdo

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Since when do you Libs pay attention to the constitution?

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Well, since it wouldn't be "Libs" doing the kicking out, it would be conservatives, don't you think the CONSERVATIVES should pay attention to the Constitution?

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How about just making a law that makes it illegal for government to aid any state that goes bankrupt? If a state goes bankrupt, they must leave the US until they pay ALL their debts.

Would that be more applicable?

Or, how about a law that when a state goes bankrupt, another state (or two) is allowed to pay their debts and then remove that state from senate/house representatives. Those go to the states bailing them out.

Better?

When Cali can't pay their bonds, they should lose their right to govern.

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I think it would take more than a law...probably have to amend the Constitution. But, I wouldn't have a problem with either of those...

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agwrestler said:

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Secceed first, then invade CA.

I could write for Netflix...

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Not if you can't spell "secede".

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I exceeded expectations...

No.

Yet another delusional thread and fantasy.

Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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It would be harder to exclude Austin into a Vatican City style enclave if we did it that way. Texit would allow us to leave Dallas behind as part of Oklahoma and carve out Austin as a Vatican City/West Berlin type of enemy encampment.

txags92 said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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It would be harder to exclude Austin into a Vatican City style enclave if we did it that way. Texit would allow us to leave Dallas behind as part of Oklahoma and carve out Austin as a Vatican City/West Berlin type of enemy encampment.

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If Texas could secede without its major metropolitan areas it would be set.

https://kinder.rice.edu/urbanedge/triumph-triangle-how-texas-can-hold-its-urban-economic-powerhouse

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The Triangle includes five of the 13 biggest cities in the nation (Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, and Fort Worth). And in the last decade, 85 percent of the population growth in Texas has occurred in the Triangle.

Economically, too, the Texas Triangle is a powerhouse. The four metropolitan economies had a combined GDP of approximately $1.3 trillion in 2018 - about 6.3 percent of the US economy and almost 70 percent of the Texas economy.
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Last and perhaps most important, Texas must find ways to spread the Triangle's prosperity to the 10 million people who live in the rest of Texas - and especially the 3 million people who live in rural Texas.
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https://wacotrib.com/opinion/columnists/ray-perryman-population-shift-away-from-rural-texas-has-limits/article_a6d76816-249a-11ed-befc-2fa7a075729c.html

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. . . The rural population increased by only 9.82% from 2001 to 2021, to almost 3.2 million (10.65% of the total). . . .

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Maybe instead of trying to blockade, quarantine, or give away 70% of the state's economy, we should hold the cities up at gun point and make them share their wealth with the 3 million rural folks.

LMCane said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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......just kick California, Illinois and New York ( and a handful of others) out of the Union?

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wow something no one has ever thought of.

and EXACTLY how do you propose that would happen?

specific details about how to do that under the Constitution.

or does the Constitution no longer matter to most of the Trumpers?

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Well, it doesn't matter to democrats, so, you know, why not?