Marijuana: 42% increased risk of a stroke - & 25% higher chance of heart attack

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Algorithmic Epiphany said:

BluHorseShu said:

WolfCall said:

Bad news for marijuana users. Looks like it's unhealthy for them, even if they bake it in brownies.

Who would have thought it?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13135909/cannabis-heart-attack-stroke-risk-marijuana.html
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Using marijuana in ANY form is linked to a 42% increased risk of a stroke - and 25% higher chance of a heart attack, study warns
  • A study found that cannabis use could raise the risk of heart attack and stroke
  • Users had a 25% higher chance of heart attack and 42% greater stroke risk
By EMILY JOSHU HEALTH REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 09:46 EST, 28 February 2024 | UPDATED: 09:51 EST, 28 February 2024

.....The researchers found that smoking, eating, or vaping cannabis was associated with a 'significant' increase in heart disease and stroke risk, and the more days someone smoked, the more likely they were to have adverse effects.

However, the team noted that this increased risk was consistent with other known heart disease and stroke risks, such as alcohol, body mass index (BMI), Type 2 diabetes, and lack of physical activity.

They also found that daily cannabis users were 25 percent more likely to develop heart disease and 42 percent more likely to suffer a stroke.

And younger adults - men under 55 and women under 65 - who were already at risk for cardiovascular disease had a combined 36 percent increase chance of heart disease, coronary artery disease, and stroke.

'Our study shows that smoking cannabis has significant cardiovascular risk risks, just like smoking tobacco,' Dr Jeffers said. .....

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38415581/
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Association of Cannabis Use With Cardiovascular Outcomes Among US Adults
Abra M Jeffers 1 2 3 4, Stanton Glantz 5, Amy L Byers 6 7 8, Salomeh Keyhani 1 9 10
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PMID: 38415581 DOI: 10.1161/JAHA.123.030178
Abstract
Background: We examined the association between cannabis use and cardiovascular outcomes among the general population, among never-tobacco smokers, and among younger individuals.

Methods and results: This is a population-based, cross-sectional study of 2016 to 2020 data from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance Survey from 27 American states and 2 territories. We assessed the association of cannabis use (number of days of cannabis use in the past 30 days) with self-reported cardiovascular outcomes (coronary heart disease, myocardial infarction, stroke, and a composite measure of all 3) in multivariable regression models, adjusting for tobacco use and other characteristics in adults 18 to 74 years old. We repeated this analysis among nontobacco smokers, and among men <55 years old and women <65 years old who are at risk of premature cardiovascular disease. Among the 434 104 respondents, the prevalence of daily and nondaily cannabis use was 4% and 7.1%, respectively. The adjusted odds ratio (aOR) for the association of daily cannabis use and coronary heart disease, myocardial infarction, stroke, and the composite outcome (coronary heart disease, myocardial infarction, and stroke) was 1.16 (95% CI, 0.98-1.38), 1.25 (95% CI, 1.07-1.46), 1.42 (95% CI, 1.20-1.68), and 1.28 (95% CI, 1.13-1.44), respectively, with proportionally lower log odds for days of use between 0 and 30 days per month. Among never-tobacco smokers, daily cannabis use was also associated with myocardial infarction (aOR, 1.49 [95% CI, 1.03-2.15]), stroke (aOR, 2.16 [95% CI, 1.43-3.25]), and the composite of coronary heart disease, myocardial infarction, and stroke (aOR, 1.77 [95% CI, 1.31-2.40]). Relationships between cannabis use and cardiovascular outcomes were similar for men <55 years old and women <65 years old.

Conclusions: Cannabis use is associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes, with heavier use (more days per month) associated with higher odds of adverse outcomes.


I can believe the smoking part, that makes complete sense. But the edibles part....I don't believe it unless their data points are eating some Betty Crock's that have super high THC all the time. Low THC in moderation is not going to do anything remotely to the body that's close to the damage by alcohol, high fat foods, etc. Not even close. Sounds like those in the study had preexisting conditions. I've never smoked pot or tobacco and I ended up with a heart problem due to genetics.


You guys don't understand. They didn't do any new research they gathered existing research on different studies that had data on marijuana users, and extracted their analysis off the existing data. I don't think this is a really useful form of science, unless you're trying to sell a narrative, surprisingly narrative fishing pays well and there's lots of research that will create whatever narrative needs to fit the bill.

Next thing you know these buffoons will claim that people are suddenly dying and it's because there was a whiff of marijuana in the air from an illegal immigrant and therefore we need to ban mj, and all the immigrants...

The fools would jump on that like stink on ***** It's how they got it banned the first time too. Blamed weed for blacks and ********* rapin all the white wimmens.

History doesn't repeat but rhymes.


Gotcha. So it's like saying homosexuals make up 10% of the population, but 25% of marijuana users. So marijuana use could make you gay.
BigRobSA
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I've known way more alkies and/or smokers that have had more problems with health than MJ users. Factors more. In fact, I can't think of a single person I know that uses weed, in any form, with big time health issues. Yet I know tons of drinkers and smokers that do.

Even so, adults should have the freedom to do stupid *****
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Is it better for me to drop a couple 20 mg thc gummies on a Saturday night or drink 8 beers?
Sooper Jeenyus
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I'm convinced. Let's ban all unhealthy things. Everywhere.

Ah.... America.
CDUB98
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DarkBrandon01 said:

Ban everything that's unhealthy /s
Says team "ban menthol cigs and flavored vapes."
Texas velvet maestro
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weed in moderation is pretty good. they should make it just like liquor, tax it and sell it to adults in liquor stores.
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For every study, there is one that refutes it and so many others that can't replicate the original.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

For every study, there is one that refutes it and so many others that can't replicate the original.
Agree with you here Ghost
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CDUB98 said:

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However, the team noted that this increased risk was consistent with other known heart disease and stroke risks, such as alcohol, body mass index (BMI), Type 2 diabetes, and lack of physical activity.
But really, this statement is kinda key.

Just like any other thing that is bad for you, it increases your risk of dying.


Exactly why would they not adjust to control for those factors to identify causality vs association of use with obesity?.
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To each his own.
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JDL 96 said:

To each his own.


That's legitimately all folks are asking. "To each his own" in a state that bars the production sale or use of the other.
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Potheads. Who cares!
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Algorithmic Epiphany said:

BluHorseShu said:

WolfCall said:

Bad news for marijuana users. Looks like it's unhealthy for them, even if they bake it in brownies.

Who would have thought it?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13135909/cannabis-heart-attack-stroke-risk-marijuana.html
Quote:

Using marijuana in ANY form is linked to a 42% increased risk of a stroke - and 25% higher chance of a heart attack, study warns
  • A study found that cannabis use could raise the risk of heart attack and stroke
  • Users had a 25% higher chance of heart attack and 42% greater stroke risk
By EMILY JOSHU HEALTH REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 09:46 EST, 28 February 2024 | UPDATED: 09:51 EST, 28 February 2024

.....The researchers found that smoking, eating, or vaping cannabis was associated with a 'significant' increase in heart disease and stroke risk, and the more days someone smoked, the more likely they were to have adverse effects.

However, the team noted that this increased risk was consistent with other known heart disease and stroke risks, such as alcohol, body mass index (BMI), Type 2 diabetes, and lack of physical activity.

They also found that daily cannabis users were 25 percent more likely to develop heart disease and 42 percent more likely to suffer a stroke.

And younger adults - men under 55 and women under 65 - who were already at risk for cardiovascular disease had a combined 36 percent increase chance of heart disease, coronary artery disease, and stroke.

'Our study shows that smoking cannabis has significant cardiovascular risk risks, just like smoking tobacco,' Dr Jeffers said. .....

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38415581/
Quote:

Association of Cannabis Use With Cardiovascular Outcomes Among US Adults
Abra M Jeffers 1 2 3 4, Stanton Glantz 5, Amy L Byers 6 7 8, Salomeh Keyhani 1 9 10
Affiliations expand
PMID: 38415581 DOI: 10.1161/JAHA.123.030178
Abstract
Background: We examined the association between cannabis use and cardiovascular outcomes among the general population, among never-tobacco smokers, and among younger individuals.

Methods and results: This is a population-based, cross-sectional study of 2016 to 2020 data from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance Survey from 27 American states and 2 territories. We assessed the association of cannabis use (number of days of cannabis use in the past 30 days) with self-reported cardiovascular outcomes (coronary heart disease, myocardial infarction, stroke, and a composite measure of all 3) in multivariable regression models, adjusting for tobacco use and other characteristics in adults 18 to 74 years old. We repeated this analysis among nontobacco smokers, and among men <55 years old and women <65 years old who are at risk of premature cardiovascular disease. Among the 434 104 respondents, the prevalence of daily and nondaily cannabis use was 4% and 7.1%, respectively. The adjusted odds ratio (aOR) for the association of daily cannabis use and coronary heart disease, myocardial infarction, stroke, and the composite outcome (coronary heart disease, myocardial infarction, and stroke) was 1.16 (95% CI, 0.98-1.38), 1.25 (95% CI, 1.07-1.46), 1.42 (95% CI, 1.20-1.68), and 1.28 (95% CI, 1.13-1.44), respectively, with proportionally lower log odds for days of use between 0 and 30 days per month. Among never-tobacco smokers, daily cannabis use was also associated with myocardial infarction (aOR, 1.49 [95% CI, 1.03-2.15]), stroke (aOR, 2.16 [95% CI, 1.43-3.25]), and the composite of coronary heart disease, myocardial infarction, and stroke (aOR, 1.77 [95% CI, 1.31-2.40]). Relationships between cannabis use and cardiovascular outcomes were similar for men <55 years old and women <65 years old.

Conclusions: Cannabis use is associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes, with heavier use (more days per month) associated with higher odds of adverse outcomes.


I can believe the smoking part, that makes complete sense. But the edibles part....I don't believe it unless their data points are eating some Betty Crock's that have super high THC all the time. Low THC in moderation is not going to do anything remotely to the body that's close to the damage by alcohol, high fat foods, etc. Not even close. Sounds like those in the study had preexisting conditions. I've never smoked pot or tobacco and I ended up with a heart problem due to genetics.


You guys don't understand. They didn't do any new research they gathered existing research on different studies that had data on marijuana users, and extracted their analysis off the existing data. I don't think this is a really useful form of science, unless you're trying to sell a narrative, surprisingly narrative fishing pays well and there's lots of research that will create whatever narrative needs to fit the bill.

Next thing you know these buffoons will claim that people are suddenly dying and it's because there was a whiff of marijuana in the air from an illegal immigrant and therefore we need to ban mj, and all the immigrants...

The fools would jump on that like stink on ***** It's how they got it banned the first time too. Blamed weed for blacks and ********* rapin all the white wimmens.

History doesn't repeat but rhymes.
I agree...And your last line tells my you listen to NPR now and then....
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Been interviewed on NPR never really listened
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The funniest part of this thread are all the folks who think that people who partake in this just sit around and eat junk food and lay on the couch. I'll have a gummy and clean the house, put away laundry, clean my garage, etc. The "lazy, junk food eating pothead" talk sounds like y'all watched and believed Reefer Madness.
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I think it's a bit like alcohol, the more you use the worse it is for you. Moderation is the key.
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Ding ding ding! I have a gummy in the evening, after the littles are settled and/or in bed. I relax but also do chores. When you're popping them all day (before work, at lunch, driving around town) that's when you have an issue. Same as alcohol. Just don't be stupid about it.
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

The funniest part of this thread are all the folks who think that people who partake in this just sit around and eat junk food and lay on the couch. I'll have a gummy and clean the house, put away laundry, clean my garage, etc. The "lazy, junk food eating pothead" talk sounds like y'all watched and believed Reefer Madness.


You're a woman right?
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Tibbers said:

JDL 96 said:

To each his own.


That's legitimately all folks are asking. "To each his own" in a state that bars the production sale or use of the other.
Except for that 2018 Farm Bill hemp derived thing... Go into any CBD store in the state and see what you can find.
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Well, something has to kill you.
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AggieDruggist89 said:




You're Your a woman right?
this is texags. get it right.
phillytex24
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I've been so high many times, and thought I might have a stroke but my friends always said I was just overthinking. Now this proves my concerns!!!
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Turns out the best thing you could do to protect yourself against covid was to hit a joint.

What a wild turn of events.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:




Who would have thought taking a drug that makes sitting around doing nothing but eating Doritos as fun could lead to bad side effects?

yep. it's probably the accompanying lifestyle. Anyway, I hope that's the issue.
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this world is so ****ing gay, I dont care if eating a gummy makes it end quicker.
My pronouns are AFUERA/AHORA!
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Echoes97 said:



Ha ha I was going say , someone should tell Willie Nelson, he is 92!
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I don't care if people want to smoke it. Just take a damned shower before you go out in pup. The odor puts some of the immigrant "unbathed cultures" to shame.
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ban pot

for your heart and brain according to this study

everywhere.

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