Intuitive Machines - Moon Landing

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PrestigeWorldwideAg12
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For the first time in over 50 years, the moon should be landed on but this time unmanned AND by a private company.

https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/intuitive-machines-1-lunar-landing/

Sorry if this was already posted but thought it was interesting. Posted here, because eff the other countries. MERICA!
ABATTBQ11
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First time in 50 years for the US. I believe other countries have done it in between.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.
No political benefit for doing it.

Why spend all the $$$ on going to the moon when you can use those $$$ to buy votes.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.
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Have you ever gone on a vacation somewhere and when you got there discovered it was kinda boring and not as interesting as the brochures made it out to be? I get the impression the moon is like that. You can even buy a "Been there, done that" t-shirt there.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.
It cost a lot of money. If it were not for the cold war we probably just now trying to attempt crewed flights to the moon.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.

It's not a question of technology. We all know that's it's doable. I always just assumed it was a simple cost-benefit analysis.

There's not a lot there and the scientific payoff isn't worth the money or the risk.
jkag89
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One of the greatest tv ads of all time! Also reminds me of one of the best sci-fi shorts of all time, Wallace & Gromit's Grand Day Out.
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NASA has been dedicated to ROVs, probably justifiably so.

Dangerous place the moon, worse than the beach with all that sand....yeee...gives me the heebegeebees!

Moon reglet, FWIU, is highly charged and it attracts to suits like a rubbed balloon to dust and highly addrasive. Then there's the cosmic radiation...But I could be wrong.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.



Because it is extremely expensive and dangerous to send people there and bring them home alive. You can send machines there to do the same thing for pennies on the dollar.
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VitruvianAg said:

NASA has been dedicated to ROVs, probably justifiably so.

Dangerous place the moon, worse than the beach with all that sand....yeee...gives me the heebegeebees!

Moon reglet, FWIU, is highly charged and it attracts to suits like a rubbed balloon to dust and highly addrasive. Then there's the cosmic radiation...But I could be wrong.

I read this picturing Anakin Skywaker complaining about sand.
sam callahan
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I always just assumed it was a simple cost-benefit analysis.

You assumed our government used a cost-benefit analysis on anything, ever?
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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in follow up to many of your replies i would agree there is a costs associated with it but there are benefits as well so it's not sunken costs. advancements in technology were discovered and improved due to space travel. it also seems that the moon could be a great starting point for travel to mars in the future. lastly although we have gone and therefore we don't see a benefit of going back i am surprised other super powers like china haven't done it. just to show they are on equally footing in so many words.

good discussion thanks for your responses all good ones.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

in follow up to many of your replies i would agree there is a costs associated with it but there are benefits as well so it's not sunken costs. advancements in technology were discovered and improved due to space travel. it also seems that the moon could be a great starting point for travel to mars in the future. lastly although we have gone and therefore we don't see a benefit of going back i am surprised other super powers like china haven't done it. just to show they are on equally footing in so many words.

good discussion thanks for your responses all good ones.


One of the points of going back to the moon was to use it as a stepping stone to Mars. That's been a plan for some time. One issue is that space, in general, was deprioritized by the US.

And I will go there and say that while I do believe we went to the moon, I can totally understand why many would think we never did. Anyone that thinks we wouldn't fake it if we felt it necessary is ignoring our governments many examples of lying and manipulation. The last three years should have cured anyone of the illusion that they won't lie, cheat, and steal for whatever reason they want to.

From a tech standpoint, I wonder if there is a bit of Dark Ages aspect here in that we've forgotten how to do some of the things that got us there in the first place. I wonder how much we would have to relearn all over again. We've gone from a total analog era to all digital. How many people are left that would even know how to do a lot of the manual stuff we were doing back then?
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.


I can help you answer that question. The answer lies in another question.

Your question is "why haven't we gone back?"

The answer is, "why go back?"
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

For the first time in over 50 years, the moon should be landed on but this time unmanned AND by a private company.

https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/intuitive-machines-1-lunar-landing/

Sorry if this was already posted but thought it was interesting. Posted here, because eff the other countries. MERICA!


So, was this successful?
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.
1. It's really expensive
2. The Apollo program succeeded, but it was largely a waste. The vehicle and delivery they developed to do it isn't useful beyond that one task
3. There's no societal will to justify that level of effort and expense at the moment

The shuttle program put space exploration back on a more useful development curve, it was just massively expensive to do so, and completely failed it's cost objective to make it more cost effective. Now that private companies are really involved, you're seeing better products at lower costs, and it's in reach now.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.
It's… lunacy.
Trump will fix it.
PrestigeWorldwideAg12
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Was a successful touchdown. LUNR up 35% after hours last I checked
TexAgs91
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goatchze said:

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.


I can help you answer that question. The answer lies in another question.

Your question is "why haven't we gone back?"

The answer is, "why go back?"


Going to the lunar south pole isn't exactly going back.
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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aggiedent
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Everything has a silver lining.

One conspiracy theory nut job blocked.
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jkag89 said:

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.
It cost a lot of money. If it were not for the cold war we probably just now trying to attempt crewed flights to the moon.
Spending money we don't have hasn't been a problem for a long, long, time.
TexAgs91
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C@LAg said:

TexAgs91 said:





Going to the lunar south pole isn't exactly going back.
i mean.. yeah it is. the subject is "going back to the moon"; not "going to a new location not previously visited".


Going to a different spot on the moon near the equator qualifies as "going to a new location not previously visited". The poles are a different environment and there's water there making it more suited for long term habitation and as part of a bigger multi-planetary strategy.
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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WestHoustonAg79
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

For the first time in over 50 years, the moon should be landed on but this time unmanned AND by a private company.

https://plus.nasa.gov/scheduled-video/intuitive-machines-1-lunar-landing/

Sorry if this was already posted but thought it was interesting. Posted here, because eff the other countries. MERICA!


We did it. Had huge public and policy support at the time.

Space science and exploration has always been a hard mix of next science vs funding.

The science aspect is linear and needed. The funding is geopolitically and us politically an issue.
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Rapier108 said:

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

to me the most perplexing thing about the moon is why no one has gone back in fifty years. the huge advancements in technology which are obvious which would make you think it would be a lot easier today and yet no one has been back.

just weird never understood why.
No political benefit for doing it.

Why spend all the $$$ on going to the moon when you can use those $$$ to buy votes.


When the moon learns to launder money like Ukraine, we'll go there.
Ag with kids
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ABATTBQ11 said:

First time in 50 years for the US. I believe other countries have done it in between.
Do those countries use the metric system? YES....YES they do.

So, they don't count.
Ag with kids
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On a side point, I got a hit from a recruiter from Intuitive Machines earlier this week. We were supposed to talk this morning but I got pulled into a meeting and missed his call. We couldn't talk after that because...well, they were busy the rest of the day.

Unfortunately, I texted him this evening and the job can't be remote...so we bid farewells.
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Notice how we made it back to the moon after the SAG strike.
Ag with kids
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EastSideAg2002 said:

Notice how we made it back to the moon after the SAG strike.
Buncha extra coders to help out?
PrestigeWorldwideAg12
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You're apart of that?
akaggie05
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DargelSkout said:

VitruvianAg said:

NASA has been dedicated to ROVs, probably justifiably so.

Dangerous place the moon, worse than the beach with all that sand....yeee...gives me the heebegeebees!

Moon reglet, FWIU, is highly charged and it attracts to suits like a rubbed balloon to dust and highly addrasive. Then there's the cosmic radiation...But I could be wrong.

I read this picturing Anakin Skywaker complaining about sand.


All joking aside, this is one of my favorite Apollo photos... Gene Cernan covered in moon dust after an EVA back in the lunar module. Picture truly worth 1000 words.

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