Ellis Wyatt said:

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Phatbob said:

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If you don't help out the Republican nominee, don't complain when you have Biden for 4 more years.

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"If you don't support my bad decisions, don't complain when the consequences of my bad decisions affect you."

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Most of us had no decision. Now it's Marxism or not. There's not much use in crying about it.

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Come on now. Whining about an election that people claim was stolen from them by some grand conspiracy is non-stop. Trump even continues whining about it.

Everyone had a choice in the previous election. They also did in the mid terms. We''ll never be truly a Marxist country because it completely contradicts the constitution. Do we have socialistic(ish) policies under Dem rule, sure, but we're not going to be Marxist. Doesn't mean voting Dem won't continue the downward spiral.

People can detest Trump as a person, believe some of his indictments likely have validity, believe the election was not stolen....and still vote for Trump because he is a cog in moving the country forward. He's not a savior, he's not a magician, but he will hold the bully pulpit of Chief Exec.

If everyone keeps shouting Marxism, at some point people will look at their own lives and decide if they are really experiencing that. Its an emotional dog whistle the same as the left shouts fascism and dictatorship.

Most people vote with their emotions these days, unfortunately.

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Didn't some guy start a bank for conservatives somewhat recently? Trump should be able to hit up that bank for support.

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6319399641112
(Video - 1/28/23)

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Country star John Rich joins with Ben Carson, Larry Elder to launch 'Old Glory' bank

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https://oldglorybank.com/

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The pro-America online bank.

Welcome to Old Glory Bank. We're the bank for the
hard-working, freedom-loving Americans.

You stand for love of country, faith, freedom,
respect for our flag, and a deep appreciation
for our Military, law enforcement, and first
responders. We stand with you.

. . .
Banking Bill of Rights.

Old Glory Bank holds these truths to be self-evident, that every American has the right to financial freedom, that big banks should not dictate who gets to use America's financial institutions, that there is nothing more un-American than being canceled for your beliefs.

Freedom of Association
The right to bank without the risk of cancellation because of your faith, industry, or beliefs.

Freedom of Financial Privacy
The right to banking privacy, shielded from improper government snooping.

Freedom from Censorship
The right to an online payment app without the threat of cancellation by big tech censors.

Freedom of Lifestyle
The right to banking services without restrictions imposed by a "social credit score."

Freedom of American Values
The right to bank with an institution that respects and supports your American values.
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I'd never heard of it until your post. It would be good advertising for the bank if it could be seen as helping Trump given it's clearly targeting the same crowd.

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If you don't help out the Republican nominee, don't complain when you have Biden for 4 more years.

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"If you don't support my bad decisions, don't complain when the consequences of my bad decisions affect you."

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It's funny, the bad decision can be a multiple of things yet no one wants to discuss the crux behind each decision and would rather point blame at others.

* Is voting Trump in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to show how the GOP has lost the trust of their base?

* Is voting DeSantis in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to keep GOP majority with RINO's down ballot and hope DeSantis leads RINO's back to the conservative side?

* Is abstaining in the general a bad decision if the goal is to revert back to the way the GOP was before Trump?

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* Is voting Trump in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to show how the GOP has lost the trust of their base?

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Yes. The GOP IS Trump's party. Has been for years. That vote was a vote in favor of perpetuating this clown show that is the current state of the GOP.

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* Is voting DeSantis in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to keep GOP majority with RINO's down ballot and hope DeSantis leads RINO's back to the conservative side?

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Are you saying Trump is getting rid of RINOs? I guess technically he is, they are just getting replaced with Democrats.

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* Is abstaining in the general a bad decision if the goal is to revert back to the way the GOP was before Trump?

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There is no time machine. Trump is a cancer to conservatism, and not consenting to be used in this cancer takeover is the least of all evils at this point. That is how bad it has gotten.

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I wonder why 200,000 fewer people are donating to Trump this year?

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Would imagine some percentage are in fear of bing de-banked like people who donated to the Canadian truckers.

Tea Party said:

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Phatbob said:

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If you don't help out the Republican nominee, don't complain when you have Biden for 4 more years.

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"If you don't support my bad decisions, don't complain when the consequences of my bad decisions affect you."

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It's funny, the bad decision can be a multiple of things yet no one wants to discuss the crux behind each decision and would rather point blame at others.

* Is voting Trump in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to show how the GOP has lost the trust of their base?

* Is voting DeSantis in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to keep GOP majority with RINO's down ballot and hope DeSantis leads RINO's back to the conservative side?

* Is abstaining in the general a bad decision if the goal is to revert back to the way the GOP was before Trump?

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Why in the world would voting for Desantis in the primary equating to keeping RINO's? RINO seems to have lost an pejorative impact bc its so overused. An R that is loved one day for something they did or said is immediately deemed a RINO the instant their perceived to have been part of a negotiation with the Dems.

I think voting for DeSantis in the primary is more directed at Trump specifically and no one else. And btw, Trump is a RINO himself. He promotes conservative ideas in his speeches, but other than the SCOTUS picks and (which I applaud him for) and immigration (which is slowly now garnering bipartisan support, he is already wavering on other things like abortion. He certainly wasn't fiscally conservative.

BluHorseShu said:

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Tea Party said:

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Phatbob said:

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If you don't help out the Republican nominee, don't complain when you have Biden for 4 more years.

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"If you don't support my bad decisions, don't complain when the consequences of my bad decisions affect you."

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It's funny, the bad decision can be a multiple of things yet no one wants to discuss the crux behind each decision and would rather point blame at others.

* Is voting Trump in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to show how the GOP has lost the trust of their base?

* Is voting DeSantis in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to keep GOP majority with RINO's down ballot and hope DeSantis leads RINO's back to the conservative side?

* Is abstaining in the general a bad decision if the goal is to revert back to the way the GOP was before Trump?

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Why in the world would voting for Desantis in the primary equating to keeping RINO's? RINO seems to have lost an pejorative impact bc its so overused. An R that is loved one day for something they did or said is immediately deemed a RINO the instant their perceived to have been part of a negotiation with the Dems.

I think voting for DeSantis in the primary is more directed at Trump specifically and no one else. And btw, Trump is a RINO himself. He promotes conservative ideas in his speeches, but other than the SCOTUS picks and (which I applaud him for) and immigration (which is slowly now garnering bipartisan support, he is already wavering on other things like abortion. He certainly wasn't fiscally conservative.

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I never said Trump was a conservative. And losing donations certainly isn't a good sign for the top of the ticket.
I have said countless times that a large portion of the GOP is not conservative. I view R = conservative. RINO describes a lot of the GOP. Unless you want to expand the definition of R to be so wide that it covers a fair amount left of conservative, then you are correct RINO would not be accurate, but R also would not = conservative.

I said countless times that DeSantis is conservative, the best leader we've seen in a long time.

I questioned DeSantis primary supporters countless times what their long term plan was and the vast majority of responses was to give the GOP a majority, even if it meant enabling RINO's in purple areas, in the hopes that DeSantis would be able to make the GOP start being conservative.

Thus, their implication was vote for DeSantis and move the GOP down ballot however far left as we need to have a majority that DeSantis can work with.

My reply was white knighting DeSantis is foolish and we needed to focus more on down ballot both within the GOP and culturally. Thus the initial counter-questions to the initial statement about "if you don't support my bad decisions...."

1. Did anyone bring up DeSantis into this? Who is white-knighting him? This is specifically about how bad a fit Trump is at the particulars of this role. Not only that, but these issues were pointed out a long time ago, and they were poo-pooed by the same people who are now saying we just have to shut up and deal with it.

These issues were easily foreseen and now we get to suffer the consequences of ignoring them.

2. No one is saying we shouldn't focus on down ballot races, quite the opposite. But that is one of the consequences of picking Trump is that all of the resources will be going to him instead of those down-ballot conservatives. You've essentially picked the road that goes in the opposite direction of your stated destination.

If anyone is "whining", it's not the ones who pointed out that these would be the consequences and they are already being realized.

The Marxist political persecution strategy is working towards bankrupting the regime's most popular opposition. We'll find out soon if arrests and imprisonments and/or ballot removals also work. Very exciting times for the America-hating communists.

With mass-mailed in ez fraud elections without basic anti-fraud controls or auditability remaining in effect, popular opposition to socialist big gov spending policies going to prison, or at least being bankrupted and assets being seized for being guilty of opposing socialism, the additional lawfareing and threatening of attorneys willing to defend the regime's political opposition, as well as 10 million new government-dependent future socialist voters being let into the country (so far), the democrat wet-dream is almost a reality. America is almost dead. fantasies coming true. F that old racist american dream. F merit or hard work. F people with jobs complaining about how high their taxes are and wanting smaller government. How dare they? we'll soon have equity instead!

We'll soon be able accomplish the permanent power grabs our democrat leaders have been talking about:

- adding DC and/or PR as states for eternal senate control
- eliminating the electoral college for eternal left and east coast / urban socialist voters determining all national elections. F suburban and rural flyover country losers. They will rightfully never matter again.
- expanding and packing the court with more justices that don't know what a woman is so bypassing the constitution and legislating from the bench becomes more of an easy path than a check/balance to radical "progress"
- we can finally "reimagine" policing by getting rid of every local beat cop on every street (because ACAB) and nationalize policing! Our wonderful, not weaponized / politicized at all, FBI can finish the job of deprogramming/ reeducating the 75 million ultra-maga extremists who foolishly oppose socialism and voted for someone we convicted of "crimes".
- what's a few more trillion in debt or more inflation, really, when the government's green deals will reduce earth's temperature and save the planet? Finally!


this is so wonderul.

Deleting because getting in the weeds.
Carry on.

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There is absolutely no way he only raised $8500 from donors during an entire month

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That is only for that one particular political action committee.

Tea Party said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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Tea Party said:

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Phatbob said:

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If you don't help out the Republican nominee, don't complain when you have Biden for 4 more years.

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"If you don't support my bad decisions, don't complain when the consequences of my bad decisions affect you."

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It's funny, the bad decision can be a multiple of things yet no one wants to discuss the crux behind each decision and would rather point blame at others.

* Is voting Trump in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to show how the GOP has lost the trust of their base?

* Is voting DeSantis in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to keep GOP majority with RINO's down ballot and hope DeSantis leads RINO's back to the conservative side?

* Is abstaining in the general a bad decision if the goal is to revert back to the way the GOP was before Trump?

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Why in the world would voting for Desantis in the primary equating to keeping RINO's? RINO seems to have lost an pejorative impact bc its so overused. An R that is loved one day for something they did or said is immediately deemed a RINO the instant their perceived to have been part of a negotiation with the Dems.

I think voting for DeSantis in the primary is more directed at Trump specifically and no one else. And btw, Trump is a RINO himself. He promotes conservative ideas in his speeches, but other than the SCOTUS picks and (which I applaud him for) and immigration (which is slowly now garnering bipartisan support, he is already wavering on other things like abortion. He certainly wasn't fiscally conservative.

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I never said Trump was a conservative. And losing donations certainly isn't a good sign for the top of the ticket.
I have said countless times that a large portion of the GOP is not conservative. I view R = conservative. RINO describes a lot of the GOP. Unless you want to expand the definition of R to be so wide that it covers a fair amount left of conservative, then you are correct RINO would not be accurate, but R also would not = conservative.

I said countless times that DeSantis is conservative, the best leader we've seen in a long time.

I questioned DeSantis primary supporters countless times what their long term plan was and the vast majority of responses was to give the GOP a majority, even if it meant enabling RINO's in purple areas, in the hopes that DeSantis would be able to make the GOP start being conservative.

Thus, their implication was vote for DeSantis and move the GOP down ballot however far left as we need to have a majority that DeSantis can work with.

My reply was white knighting DeSantis is foolish and we needed to focus more on down ballot both within the GOP and culturally. Thus the initial counter-questions to the initial statement about "if you don't support my bad decisions...."

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Okay. But white knighting Trump, a RINO seems about the same. Especially since his policy plan for a 16 week abortion limit nationally (with exceptions) was leaked. He's trying to garner more support and in doing so is moving away from pro life

geoag58 said:

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If lawfare bankrupts his campaign I predict a landslide for Trump and the republicans. People who vote see this for the sham it is. Only partisan scumbag hacks don't. Keep it up dimtards.

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In the next 20 years no Republican will win the White House in a landslide. There are starting to be more of them than there are of us. I'll take a .5 margin of victory.
And if the R cannot beat the idiot now in the WH, we may be doomed. And I'm not sure Trump can win in November. Hope I'm wrong.

McInnis 03 said:

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But Ol' Nikki has PLENTY o' cash, doesn't she?

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DemocRat cash! And their brethren, Concerned Moderate cash as well! Why do these two groups pop up in the same places?!?!

Birds of a feather and such…

PA24 said:

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Smart money in Vegas has Trump beating Biden.

Cant wait to see the whiners really whine.


https://www.vegasinsider.com/odds/us-presidential-election/

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i wonder what the "smart" vegas money was saying around this time in 2016

BluHorseShu said:

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Tea Party said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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Tea Party said:

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Phatbob said:

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If you don't help out the Republican nominee, don't complain when you have Biden for 4 more years.

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"If you don't support my bad decisions, don't complain when the consequences of my bad decisions affect you."

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It's funny, the bad decision can be a multiple of things yet no one wants to discuss the crux behind each decision and would rather point blame at others.

* Is voting Trump in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to show how the GOP has lost the trust of their base?

* Is voting DeSantis in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to keep GOP majority with RINO's down ballot and hope DeSantis leads RINO's back to the conservative side?

* Is abstaining in the general a bad decision if the goal is to revert back to the way the GOP was before Trump?

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Why in the world would voting for Desantis in the primary equating to keeping RINO's? RINO seems to have lost an pejorative impact bc its so overused. An R that is loved one day for something they did or said is immediately deemed a RINO the instant their perceived to have been part of a negotiation with the Dems.

I think voting for DeSantis in the primary is more directed at Trump specifically and no one else. And btw, Trump is a RINO himself. He promotes conservative ideas in his speeches, but other than the SCOTUS picks and (which I applaud him for) and immigration (which is slowly now garnering bipartisan support, he is already wavering on other things like abortion. He certainly wasn't fiscally conservative.

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I never said Trump was a conservative. And losing donations certainly isn't a good sign for the top of the ticket.
I have said countless times that a large portion of the GOP is not conservative. I view R = conservative. RINO describes a lot of the GOP. Unless you want to expand the definition of R to be so wide that it covers a fair amount left of conservative, then you are correct RINO would not be accurate, but R also would not = conservative.

I said countless times that DeSantis is conservative, the best leader we've seen in a long time.

I questioned DeSantis primary supporters countless times what their long term plan was and the vast majority of responses was to give the GOP a majority, even if it meant enabling RINO's in purple areas, in the hopes that DeSantis would be able to make the GOP start being conservative.

Thus, their implication was vote for DeSantis and move the GOP down ballot however far left as we need to have a majority that DeSantis can work with.

My reply was white knighting DeSantis is foolish and we needed to focus more on down ballot both within the GOP and culturally. Thus the initial counter-questions to the initial statement about "if you don't support my bad decisions...."

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Okay. But white knighting Trump, a RINO seems about the same. Especially since his policy plan for a 16 week abortion limit nationally (with exceptions) was leaked. He's trying to garner more support and in doing so is moving away from pro life

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Agreed. I'm not advocating for Trump and his waning campaign contributions is a sign things aren't going well.

I'm questioning the hypocrisy of the "bad decision…" comment in reply to the strawman "vote Trump or don't complain about Biden" comment. The vote Trump comment was dumb. The bad decision comment is hypocritical unless they abstain from a lot of the GOP too because Trump is to the right of a large portion of the GOP. Not an endorsement of Trump by any means, but a reality check of the GOP.

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PA24 said:

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Smart money in Vegas has Trump beating Biden.

Cant wait to see the whiners really whine.


https://www.vegasinsider.com/odds/us-presidential-election/

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you want to wager Texags accounts on that?

If Trump wins, i hand over my account and you can use it, trash it, have it deleted, whatever. Hell, I will even throw in basic subscription so it is like-for-like.
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And if Trump loses, I get your account to dispense with however I like.

I mean, if you are SO certain your boy is going to win, what do you have to lose?

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geoag58 said:

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If lawfare bankrupts his campaign I predict a landslide for Trump and the republicans. People who vote see this for the sham it is. Only partisan scumbag hacks don't. Keep it up dimtards.

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In the next 20 years no Republican will win the White House in a landslide. There are starting to be more of them than there are of us. I'll take a .5 margin of victory.
And if the R cannot beat the idiot now in the WH, we may be doomed. And I'm not sure Trump can win in November. Hope I'm wrong.

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Sadly I can't disagree with you.

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There are starting to be more of them than there are of us.

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of course. that's how socialism works. More impoverished government-dependent people = more big government socialist voters and now that 60% of Americans don't even pay taxes i.e. fund the government, we're outnumbered.

Even being technically outnumbered, we used to exercise our right to vote in higher percentages so we still had a chance to win national elections.

In comes a plandemic and absentee voting converts to mass-mailed out ballots and untraceable elections and the impoverished socialist voter base doesn't have to vote anymore- it's done for them. The usual shenanigans are exponentially more impactful. Add to that, the "path to amnesty" they run on and use to open the border for more than 10 million new poor government-dependent socialist voters in addition to the approx 20-40 million illegals that were already here, and voila: the job-having and tax-paying conservatives who want a smaller, limited federal government as it was intended and lower taxes to attract opportunities and spur growth will never win again. On top of all that, if anyone against the socialist establishment regime gets too popular, soft coup hoaxes, pravda brainwashing irrational hatred to the masses, censoring/banning/deplatforming, lawfare bankrupting, and charges & indictments for phony crimes ensue to send a clear message about standing up to them.

No one, not even OP, thinks Trump is going to lose the 2024 election for lack of money. That's more delusional than claims Elon couldn't afford to buy Twitter.

His campaign doesn't need money.

Seamaster said:

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His campaign doesn't need money.

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If that's the case, then he can stop spamming me every day with requests for it.

Seamaster said:

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His campaign doesn't need money.

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Has to be a troll.

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Seamaster said:

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His campaign doesn't need money.

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If that's the case, then he can stop spamming me every day with requests for it.

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Trump if he is serious about winning might have to actually self fund with a chunk of his Truth Social payday

Tea Party said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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Tea Party said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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Tea Party said:

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Phatbob said:

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PA24 said:

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If you don't help out the Republican nominee, don't complain when you have Biden for 4 more years.

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"If you don't support my bad decisions, don't complain when the consequences of my bad decisions affect you."

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It's funny, the bad decision can be a multiple of things yet no one wants to discuss the crux behind each decision and would rather point blame at others.

* Is voting Trump in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to show how the GOP has lost the trust of their base?

* Is voting DeSantis in the primary a bad decision if the goal is to keep GOP majority with RINO's down ballot and hope DeSantis leads RINO's back to the conservative side?

* Is abstaining in the general a bad decision if the goal is to revert back to the way the GOP was before Trump?

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Why in the world would voting for Desantis in the primary equating to keeping RINO's? RINO seems to have lost an pejorative impact bc its so overused. An R that is loved one day for something they did or said is immediately deemed a RINO the instant their perceived to have been part of a negotiation with the Dems.

I think voting for DeSantis in the primary is more directed at Trump specifically and no one else. And btw, Trump is a RINO himself. He promotes conservative ideas in his speeches, but other than the SCOTUS picks and (which I applaud him for) and immigration (which is slowly now garnering bipartisan support, he is already wavering on other things like abortion. He certainly wasn't fiscally conservative.

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I never said Trump was a conservative. And losing donations certainly isn't a good sign for the top of the ticket.
I have said countless times that a large portion of the GOP is not conservative. I view R = conservative. RINO describes a lot of the GOP. Unless you want to expand the definition of R to be so wide that it covers a fair amount left of conservative, then you are correct RINO would not be accurate, but R also would not = conservative.

I said countless times that DeSantis is conservative, the best leader we've seen in a long time.

I questioned DeSantis primary supporters countless times what their long term plan was and the vast majority of responses was to give the GOP a majority, even if it meant enabling RINO's in purple areas, in the hopes that DeSantis would be able to make the GOP start being conservative.

Thus, their implication was vote for DeSantis and move the GOP down ballot however far left as we need to have a majority that DeSantis can work with.

My reply was white knighting DeSantis is foolish and we needed to focus more on down ballot both within the GOP and culturally. Thus the initial counter-questions to the initial statement about "if you don't support my bad decisions...."

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Okay. But white knighting Trump, a RINO seems about the same. Especially since his policy plan for a 16 week abortion limit nationally (with exceptions) was leaked. He's trying to garner more support and in doing so is moving away from pro life

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Agreed. I'm not advocating for Trump and his waning campaign contributions is a sign things aren't going well.

I'm questioning the hypocrisy of the "bad decision…" comment in reply to the strawman "vote Trump or don't complain about Biden" comment. The vote Trump comment was dumb. The bad decision comment is hypocritical unless they abstain from a lot of the GOP too because Trump is to the right of a large portion of the GOP. Not an endorsement of Trump by any means, but a reality check of the GOP.

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I can agree with that.

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northeastag said:

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Seamaster said:

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His campaign doesn't need money.

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If that's the case, then he can stop spamming me every day with requests for it.

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Trump if he is serious about winning might have to actually self fund with a chunk of his Truth Social payday

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That could easily come far too late to be of any help for the campaign.

1) It will take time for the merger to come apart.
2) The merger could fall apart entirely.
3) If and when the merger happens, the funds of the merged company will not be Trump's piggy bank. He would be free to sell his own shares, though.
4) A loan might be possible, but for that the lender would have to be betting on the merger going through and on the shares retaining on gaining value.