bobbranco said:
I take the talk of a binder as a collection of documents. And yes there could be thumb drives or other forms of storage media in a 'binder'.
Time for a paid liar (lawyer) to come up with some stupid term or phrase are you?YellowPot_97 said:
….time for the Kraken?????
If Trump had real evidence he would have tweeted it by now.TheRealCoachO said:
This implies that Trump still has the evidence…if such evidence even exists.
This is not about Trump's intelligence or competence. Get a grip.Phatbob said:
To believe this "binder" idea you have to believe that Trump is simultaneously the most competent and the most incompetent person ever to be president.
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The "missing binder" story has several variants. Sources offer differing answers on the question of whether anything of consequence is missing. They give mixed accounts of Trump's frantic last efforts to declassify Russia-related material.
But nearly everyone Public and Racket spoke to agreed that the tale obscured a broader and more important story.
Dating back to the release of the so-called "Nunes memo" in 2018 exposing the corruption of the FISA application process, senior intelligence officials, including Trump's CIA Director, Gina Haspel, have repeatedly blocked attempts to declassify information about the Trump-Russia investigation.
They had good reason to obstruct the release of these documents.
Yesterday said:bobbranco said:
I take the talk of a binder as a collection of documents. And yes there could be thumb drives or other forms of storage media in a 'binder'.
Of course there could be. But how, being so important, could anyone allow it to be taken in one place? My point is, if it was so important why would anyone not have copies in multiple locations?
The deference given to this guy is just astounding. He is a meathead, barely-literate former cop and 3x failed political candidate, yet the Far Right treats him like the Oracle of Delphi.Quote:
Bongino says ....
Sorry but this all sounds like the Q-Anon stuff.Bryanisbest said:
Mar A Lago was searched in order to seize a "binder" that will show John Brennan, the CIA, FBI, Hillary Clinton campaign, foreign actors, FISA courts, MSM, the entire deep state of Government, etc, have all been involved since 2015 in taking down Donald Trump to insure he would never be President. The pee tape, crossfire hurricane, Mar A Lago, both impeachment efforts, all the lawfare, etc. In summary, virtually every attack on Trump was initiated or carried out by the US Government with the help of non-govt people. Also, Ukraine is receiving billions to keep them quiet about the Biden's bribery. Before Trump the Dems loved Russia not Ukraine. After the onset of Trump they completely switched, loving Ukraine and hating Russia. Trump makes the "perfect call" about all this to Ukraine and the Dems try to impeach him on it. Every one of these actions are not separate. They all were done for one thing, taking down Trump. Bongino says it is the greatest scandal in US history. All coming together thru sources relied on by journalists Matt Taibi, and two other journalists whose names escape me now, a male and a female reporter.
Bryanisbest said:
Mar A Lago was searched in order to seize a "binder" that will show John Brennan, the CIA, FBI, Hillary Clinton campaign, foreign actors, FISA courts, MSM, the entire deep state of Government, etc, have all been involved since 2015 in taking down
Hungry Ojos said:
So where is "the binder"?
bobbranco said:This is not about Trump's intelligence or competence. Get a grip.Phatbob said:
To believe this "binder" idea you have to believe that Trump is simultaneously the most competent and the most incompetent person ever to be president.
From Shellenberger:Quote:
The "missing binder" story has several variants. Sources offer differing answers on the question of whether anything of consequence is missing. They give mixed accounts of Trump's frantic last efforts to declassify Russia-related material.
But nearly everyone Public and Racket spoke to agreed that the tale obscured a broader and more important story.
Dating back to the release of the so-called "Nunes memo" in 2018 exposing the corruption of the FISA application process, senior intelligence officials, including Trump's CIA Director, Gina Haspel, have repeatedly blocked attempts to declassify information about the Trump-Russia investigation.
They had good reason to obstruct the release of these documents.
Oh hai!YellowPot_97 said:
….time for the Kraken?????
On Twitter, yes. I do not think his lawyers are making this argument in Court.Quote:
Isn't that the heart of his defense in the maralago documents case?
Or let it see only want to see.bobbranco said:
Don't let TDS force you to jump to conclusions.
MAL was searched because Trump is Biden's (Obama's) political enemy. Nothing more, nothing less.MiamiHopper said:Bryanisbest said:
Mar A Lago was searched in order to seize a "binder" that will show John Brennan, the CIA, FBI, Hillary Clinton campaign, foreign actors, FISA courts, MSM, the entire deep state of Government, etc, have all been involved since 2015 in taking down
MAL was searched because Trump didn't turn over marked classified documents after he was subpoenaed by a grand jury.
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Until now, the official story has been that the FBI's investigation began after Australian intelligence officials told US officials that a Trump aide had boasted to an Australian diplomat that Russia had damning material about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
In truth, the US IC asked the "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance to surveil Trump's associates and share the intelligence they acquired with US agencies, say sources close to a House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HSPCI) investigation. The Five Eyes nations are the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
After Public and Racket had been told that President Barack Obama's CIA Director, John Brennan, had identified 26 Trump associates for the Five Eyes to target, a source confirmed that the IC had "identified [them] as people to 'bump,' or make contact with or manipulate. They were targets of our own IC and law enforcement targets for collection and misinformation."
Unknown details about the FBI's investigation of the Trump campaign and raw intelligence related to the IC's surveillance of the Trump campaign are in a 10-inch binder that Trump ordered to be declassified at the very end of his term, sources told Public and Racket.
If the top-secret documents exist proving these charges, they are potentially proof that multiple US intelligence officials broke laws against spying and election interference.
Straight out of Shellenberger's mouth. Keep up.Phatbob said:
I did read the reporting, and it says nothing about the raid on Trump. You're jumping to conclusions that aren't in the reporting.
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"There has been widespread speculation that this binder was the reason, or a reason, for the FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago," the report's co-author Michael Shellenberger told Fox News.
Mr. Shellenberger wrote the report with two other independent journalists. They relied on a source close to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence who said committee staffers uncovered evidence that Mr. Brennan asked the Five Eyes intelligence alliance to spy on 26 Trump campaign associates in the months leading up to the election.
It is. Sounds so incredible, yet those of us who have followed the accusations and the cases along the way know it to be true. Most of it has happened right in front of our faces. It's a shame that Americans are so lazy that they sit idly by whole our government takes over the country and runs it of, by, and for the benefit of itself. The frog in the pot has played out in America.Bryanisbest said:
Mar A Lago was searched in order to seize a "binder" that will show John Brennan, the CIA, FBI, Hillary Clinton campaign, foreign actors, FISA courts, MSM, the entire deep state of Government, etc, have all been involved since 2015 in taking down Donald Trump to insure he would never be President.
Fabricating a narrative is your expertise?Furlock Bones said:
here we are 4 years removed and Trump has never once provided a single piece of evidence for all of his bloviating. but, that's because he had a magic binder stolen from him.
good lord. get a grip.
