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at what point does this become taxation without representation?

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Is cornyn not your duly elected representative?

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don't be obtuse

very few elected officials are representing their constituents. cronyn included.

but i guess we just need to vote harder that will help.

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If you have a vote you have representation. You don't just get your way because.

Cornyn is against the majority of the people in the state he represents. F him. He is as done as his family brisket tradition.

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Good cornyn

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Warmongers gonna warmonger

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Dead Russians

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You know evil terrorists are pouring into our country with the thought of killing Americans; and millions of our enemies chant death to America.

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We can address both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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This bill does not address both. This bill is mutually exclusive.

Bad Cornyn and the rest of the big gov enthusiasts...cough...cough.

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One of Washington's biggest problems is not addressing single issues with a single bill. I loathe the act of tying unrelated things together.

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So address the border, OUR border, first in your holier than thou world. Then RINO's like Cornyn would have more support for pushing big gov IF they got something back for America.

It's always the same with big gov types that claim to be conservative and when it comes down to the vote the true colors shine bright.

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If we wanted we could pass both bills in a single day.

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Yeah, this is why I don't call. I cannot do that.

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Borrowing money from China to give it to Ukraine, at rising interest rates, does not make America stronger.

I can’t even believe I have to say this.

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) February 13, 2024

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Except that China is has not bought our debt and is indeed liquidating their US Bonds.

Spending money on Ukraine is stupid.

It's an expensive waste. They are going to fall.

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Good cornyn

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Warmongers gonna warmonger

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Dead Russians

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You know evil terrorists are pouring into our country with the thought of killing Americans; and millions of our enemies chant death to America.

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We can address both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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This bill does not address both. This bill is mutually exclusive.

Bad Cornyn and the rest of the big gov enthusiasts...cough...cough.

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One of Washington's biggest problems is not addressing single issues with a single bill. I loathe the act of tying unrelated things together.

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So address the border, OUR border, first in your holier than thou world. Then RINO's like Cornyn would have more support for pushing big gov IF they got something back for America.

It's always the same with big gov types that claim to be conservative and when it comes down to the vote the true colors shine bright.

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If we wanted we could pass both bills in a single day.

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We can pass bad bills that do nothing all day....yay

Hopefully it dies in the House

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Spending money on Ukraine is stupid.

It's an expensive waste. They are going to fall.

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People have been saying this for almost two years now and Russia has only taken one town since April of 2022.

At this point I am rooting for Russia to just win or settle so we can try to stop funding the corruption

The Ukraine needs more money, lol

The Labor Department said Tuesday that the consumer price index, a broad measure of the price of everyday goods including gasoline, groceries and rent, rose 0.3% in January from the previous month, more than expected.

Prices climbed 3.1% from the same time last year, which also came in above the 2.9% expectation from Refinitiv economists.

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Warmongers gonna warmonger

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Dead Russians

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Show us on the doll where Russia hurt you.

It is embarrassing that there are some Aggies that still believe the MSM propaganda.

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You know evil terrorists are pouring into our country with the thought of killing Americans; and millions of our enemies chant death to America.

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We can address both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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This bill does not address both. This bill is mutually exclusive.

Bad Cornyn and the rest of the big gov enthusiasts...cough...cough.

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So, if you can't have both at once, you should get neither?

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Illogical strawman much....

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Well, your statement was a strawman too.

We can address both.

So what if this bill doesn't. It's actually possible to have ANOTHER bill...

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If you think funding other countries is higher on the pecking order than protecting our own border, then sure you have a point, though not a very conservative point in my opinion. You don't give your opponent their wishes and get a peanut in return with the hopes that they give you your wishes later. That is idiotic, yet people praise Cornyn for this.

This whole tangent started because of the resident big gov enthusiast praising Cornyn for giving even more money away to a known corrupt countries border all while we received ZERO for protecting our own border.

America first. The rest second.

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Well, I don't, so your premise is flawed.

I think we need both. I think border security is more important.

HOWEVER...get what you can when you can get it and continue working on the other. It's not a difficult concept.

Or, you can wait until you get the one you want the most first and if it never happens, you get NOTHING. Brilliant plan.

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Warmongers gonna warmonger

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Show us on the doll where Russia hurt you.

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Well, as he's said before, Russian PMCs were shooting at him (and other US troops) in Syria...so...there's that.

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Borrowing money from China to give it to Ukraine, at rising interest rates, does not make America stronger.

I can’t even believe I have to say this.

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) February 13, 2024

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Except that China is has not bought our debt and is indeed liquidating their US Bonds.

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Whatever. The inflation is killing us and we are being invaded. But dumping more money to be circulated back to establishment pockets is totally cool.

We are being robbed ****ing blind.

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You know evil terrorists are pouring into our country with the thought of killing Americans; and millions of our enemies chant death to America.

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We can address both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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This bill does not address both. This bill is mutually exclusive.

Bad Cornyn and the rest of the big gov enthusiasts...cough...cough.

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So, if you can't have both at once, you should get neither?

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Illogical strawman much....

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Well, your statement was a strawman too.

We can address both.

So what if this bill doesn't. It's actually possible to have ANOTHER bill...

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If you think funding other countries is higher on the pecking order than protecting our own border, then sure you have a point, though not a very conservative point in my opinion. You don't give your opponent their wishes and get a peanut in return with the hopes that they give you your wishes later. That is idiotic, yet people praise Cornyn for this.

This whole tangent started because of the resident big gov enthusiast praising Cornyn for giving even more money away to a known corrupt countries border all while we received ZERO for protecting our own border.

America first. The rest second.

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Well, I don't, so your premise is flawed.

I think we need both. I think border security is more important.

HOWEVER...get what you can when you can get it and continue working on the other. It's not a difficult concept.

Or, you can wait until you get the one you want the most first and if it never happens, you get NOTHING. Brilliant plan.

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Not spending the money on other countries is good, because we are broke.

Post any responses you get from Cronyn. There is no justification for this.

He needs to be removed from office.

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Spending money on Ukraine is stupid.

It's an expensive waste. They are going to fall.

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Really? because Russia expected to go in there and easily take the country and 2 years later they're still pretty frustrated and have taken lots of casualties.

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at what point does this become taxation without representation?

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Is cornyn not your duly elected representative?

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don't be obtuse

very few elected officials are representing their constituents. cronyn included.

but i guess we just need to vote harder that will help.

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If you have a vote you have representation. You don't just get your way because.

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You are supposed to get your way when you are in the majority. Your position is that Cornyn should get to vote however he chooses, without regard to the wants of those he is elected to represent. That's not how its supposed to work.

You are part of the problem.

What do Texans want him to do with Ukraine?

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at what point does this become taxation without representation?

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how did 15 people blue star this?

do they really not know the meaning of this term?

representation you don't like is still representation.

the colonists had no say in the taxes levied on them. hence the word "without"

taxation with bad representation is what we have here.

I assume all 22 have vested interests with Blackrock.

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Perhaps Paxton will run:

Ken, your criminal defense lawyers are calling to suggest you spend less time pushing Russian propaganda and more time defending longstanding felony charges against you in Houston, as well as ongoing federal grand jury proceedings in San Antonio that will probably result in… https://t.co/6dfvvqJSfV

— Senator John Cornyn (@JohnCornyn) February 13, 2024

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This is a definite signal that the Texas GOP is breaking from the national GOP. This is a pretty big deal.

How much more are European countries kicking in? What would they kick in if America said, "No more." What would they do?

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Warmongers gonna warmonger

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Dead Russians

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You know evil terrorists are pouring into our country with the thought of killing Americans; and millions of our enemies chant death to America.

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We can address both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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This bill does not address both. This bill is mutually exclusive.

Bad Cornyn and the rest of the big gov enthusiasts...cough...cough.

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So, if you can't have both at once, you should get neither?

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Illogical strawman much....

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Well, your statement was a strawman too.

We can address both.

So what if this bill doesn't. It's actually possible to have ANOTHER bill...

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If you think funding other countries is higher on the pecking order than protecting our own border, then sure you have a point, though not a very conservative point in my opinion. You don't give your opponent their wishes and get a peanut in return with the hopes that they give you your wishes later. That is idiotic, yet people praise Cornyn for this.

This whole tangent started because of the resident big gov enthusiast praising Cornyn for giving even more money away to a known corrupt countries border all while we received ZERO for protecting our own border.

America first. The rest second.

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Well, I don't, so your premise is flawed.

I think we need both. I think border security is more important.

HOWEVER...get what you can when you can get it and continue working on the other. It's not a difficult concept.

Or, you can wait until you get the one you want the most first and if it never happens, you get NOTHING. Brilliant plan.

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If you are negotiating with someone that wants similar but not exact results as what you want, then you can play give an take easier like you think we can do. That is not our reality when negotiating with D's, and sometimes RINO's.

But in reality, we have a conservative populace negotiating with an anti-American populace, and the "conservative" leaders nearly always do the giving first and hope there is some taking later.

That doesn't mean funding Ukraine is anti-American, it just means that it's foolish to praise the "conservative" leaders for getting us a peanut and not asking for the big prize that we know our anti-American counterparts do not want to give up. A wasted effort at best or a corrupt effort at worst. Like you facetiously said, brilliant plan....

Really surprised and disappointed Kennedy was one of the 22

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This dude really hates Russian people. Same guy that freaked out on here when he found out people were faking vaccine cards to keep their jobs and said that they should be turned into HR and the governmental authorities.

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Good cornyn

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Warmongers gonna warmonger

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Dead Russians

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You know evil terrorists are pouring into our country with the thought of killing Americans; and millions of our enemies chant death to America.

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We can address both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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This bill does not address both. This bill is mutually exclusive.

Bad Cornyn and the rest of the big gov enthusiasts...cough...cough.

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So, if you can't have both at once, you should get neither?

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Illogical strawman much....

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Well, your statement was a strawman too.

We can address both.

So what if this bill doesn't. It's actually possible to have ANOTHER bill...

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If you think funding other countries is higher on the pecking order than protecting our own border, then sure you have a point, though not a very conservative point in my opinion. You don't give your opponent their wishes and get a peanut in return with the hopes that they give you your wishes later. That is idiotic, yet people praise Cornyn for this.

This whole tangent started because of the resident big gov enthusiast praising Cornyn for giving even more money away to a known corrupt countries border all while we received ZERO for protecting our own border.

America first. The rest second.

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Well, I don't, so your premise is flawed.

I think we need both. I think border security is more important.

HOWEVER...get what you can when you can get it and continue working on the other. It's not a difficult concept.

Or, you can wait until you get the one you want the most first and if it never happens, you get NOTHING. Brilliant plan.

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If you are negotiating with someone that wants similar but not exact results as what you want, then you can play give an take easier like you think we can do. That is not our reality when negotiating with D's, and sometimes RINO's.

But in reality, we have a conservative populace negotiating with an anti-American populace, and the "conservative" leaders nearly always do the giving first and hope there is some taking later.

That doesn't mean funding Ukraine is anti-American, it just means that it's foolish to praise the "conservative" leaders for getting us a peanut and not asking for the big prize that we know our anti-American counterparts do not want to give up. A wasted effort at best or a corrupt effort at worst. Like you facetiously said, brilliant plan....

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I want them to get that too.

Should we wait until that happens before doing everything else I want? Or take your wins when you get them and then start working on the next thing.

Yes...the Dems suck. But, they also hold the Senate so they've got more power. So, getting the border stuff will be a lot of work - maybe more busses to Chuckie Schumers house would help (I'm serious),

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Borrowing money from China to give it to Ukraine, at rising interest rates, does not make America stronger.

I can’t even believe I have to say this.

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) February 13, 2024

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Except that China is has not bought our debt and is indeed liquidating their US Bonds.

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So printing money out of thin air and borrowing it from ourselves to give to Ukraine at rising interest rates is somehow better?

Either way, this bill is terrible. Thank goodness the House will stop it in its tracks.

When you see something the establishment wants this badly, you know there are a lot of people making a lot of money, and that the interests being served aren't those of this country or the American public. All Cornyn cares about is doing what he needs to do to stay next in line to be majority/minority leader.

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How much more are European countries kicking in? What would they kick in if America said, "No more." What would they do?

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they would wipe their tears of laughter with USD

Ukraine is the biggest money laundering grift by Congress and the White House in our nation's history.

The GOP senators who voted for this aren't kidding about it being the most important vote ever. Because if the faucet gets turned off, then Zelenski opens the books on the grift and burns down Congress.

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What do Texans want him to do with Ukraine?

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How about not send more money in one check to Ukraine than the entire USMC annual budget? What is the Ukraine grift up to now? $200bn? How much more do you think it should be? How many more jets and yachts should the corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs be allowed to purchase? Multiple times now, we have seen that the government can't even keep track of how these foreign aid dollars to Ukraine are even being used. How about spend 1/10th of that money to completely take care of the disaster at our Southern border. I really shouldn't be surprised you feel this way. It took almost zero data to get you fully on board with their "miracle shot". "Good Cornyn", give me a break.

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If the war in Ukraine was SOOO important, then why aren't we fighting in it?

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Ukraine is important because it KEEPS us from directly fighting Russians.