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In reply to NicosMachine • 12:25p, 2/7/24
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I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
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In reply to Teslag • 12:27p, 2/7/24
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Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
But our politicians would never lie and spin.

And your bias is showing..
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In reply to Teslag • 12:31p, 2/7/24
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Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
Don't care. I want to hear it and I'll decide, not you, if it is worth hearing. Thanks for your concern though.

P.S. If certainty of honest answers was a prerequisite to interview politicians, there would be no such thing as "interviews with a politician".
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In reply to Teslag • 12:41p, 2/7/24
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Teslag said:
Gigem314 said:
Teslag said:
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and sadly our current government isn't so different from Russia in how they manipulate the media and public opinion while working against what's best for the people behind the scenes.


You are completely wrong here. Some of you have a glaring lack of respect for Russian expertise in media. Our media is far too incompetent to ever get on their level.
I'm not wrong. Our media absolutely does the bidding of the Democrats. They may not be as united and 'forced' into it as Russia - but my point stands that we have a LOT of dishonest people in high places that feed the public pure lies to manipulate perception to benefit certain sides in our govt.


Comparing the NYT having a liberal bias (they do) to something like TASS is laughably absurd .
Except that's not what I'm doing, and you know that. It's also more than just the NYT, so I find that comparison laughably absurd. The majority of media in this country isn't honest and clearly has an agenda to manipulate public opinion with. So no, I'm not going to rabble on with a bunch of faux outrage over one guy interviewing Putin. We have much bigger propaganda problems in our own country that some people won't even acknowledge.

But I'm supposed to be worried about Putin? Please. What a joke.
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In reply to NicosMachine • 12:51p, 2/7/24
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NicosMachine said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
Don't care. I want to hear it and I'll decide, not you, if it is worth hearing. Thanks for your concern though.

P.S. If certainty of honest answers was a prerequisite to interview politicians, there would be no such thing as "interviews with a politician".



Putin isn't a politician. He is a literal dictator
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In reply to Teslag • 12:57p, 2/7/24
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Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
Don't care. I want to hear it and I'll decide, not you, if it is worth hearing. Thanks for your concern though.

P.S. If certainty of honest answers was a prerequisite to interview politicians, there would be no such thing as "interviews with a politician".



Putin isn't a politician. He is a literal dictator
He is a politician. He is an elected President. There is another election this year in Russia. What are you, an "election denier"? His party hasn't tried to jail his primary opponent in this election, so in that regard he's less of a totalitarian than Biden.
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In reply to NicosMachine • 1:00p, 2/7/24
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No, they shot his opposition out to the sky. Pushed some out windows. And poisoned others.
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His party hasn't tried to jail his opposition so in that regard, he's less of a totalitarian than Biden.
Uhmm? he jails opposition leaders often. And if not imprisoning them, makes sure they suddenly develop the inability to pass by open windows without falling out.
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In reply to Teslag • 1:04p, 2/7/24
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Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
Don't care. I want to hear it and I'll decide, not you, if it is worth hearing. Thanks for your concern though.

P.S. If certainty of honest answers was a prerequisite to interview politicians, there would be no such thing as "interviews with a politician".



Putin isn't a politician. He is a literal dictator


He's a dictator that still wants to control his image to his people.
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In reply to Teslag • 1:05p, 2/7/24
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No, they shot his opposition out to the sky. Pushed some out windows. And poisoned others.
Sounds like the things conservatives said about the Clintons (see the Clinton chronicles) and the same thing people claim about Trump. I heard Hillary Clinton had a bunch of people killed. Regardless, you are officially an "election denier". Welcome!
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His party hasn't tried to jail his opposition so in that regard, he's less of a totalitarian than Biden.
Uhmm? he jails opposition leaders often. And if not imprisoning them, makes sure they suddenly develop the inability to pass by open windows without falling out.


That a girl
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In reply to NicosMachine • 1:06p, 2/7/24
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K2-HMFIC said:
NicosMachine said:
K2-HMFIC said:
NicosMachine said:
LMCane said:
Putin is a war criminal and an enemy of the United States.

Would we be happy about interviewing Adolf Hitler in 1943 to hear his views of the world? Would we have wanted to have King George III give interviews to Americans in 1778?

it comes down to do you support distributing enemy propaganda during a time of war.

I'm not saying it's immoral- but it is certainly not something to be celebrated.

so many of you are such inflexible ideologues that you will justify the dumbest ideas as long as you think it "hurts" the left.

all the while using leftist tactics. I certainly have no interest in anything Bin Laden had to say in 2003, (and now notice how American teens are praising Bin-Laden speeches!)

I have no interest in listening to the Mullahs in Iran, or Hamas, or Hizbullah, or Xi ShenPing, or Kim Jung Un.

but then that's because I am a patriotic American not interested in enemy propaganda against the United States.
Every American President since the outset of the 20th century has been accused of being a "war criminal". Most of us are smart enough to discern the truth. Thus, we are not afraid to hear opposing views regardless of how "horrendous" they may sound. Only someone without a sound, rational basis for their convictions is afraid to hear other people speak. You don't have to watch or listen if you don't believe you cannot discern truth from a lie or good from bad. Those who can defend their beliefs are no less patriotic but in fact more patriotic than someone who does not trust their fellow countrymen with information.
I remember when Biden/Nixon/Obama/Bush/Trump started lacing political rivals tea with polonium, or nerve gas, or defenestrated any journalist who said something critical.
You act like I'm defending Putin. That is a straw man. I'm defending free and open speech and exchange of ideas. You don't trust Americans to hear information but you seemingly believe the CIA developed and stockpiled poisons and the means to surreptitiously administer them but just "left it at that". Okie dokie comrade.
Why did Putin choose Tucker?
I also believe Putin is aware of the massive amount of anti-Russian propaganda being disseminated in the United States and he probably doesn't trust the main purveyors of anti-Russian information to interview him. You could just as easily ask why Biden won't do an interview with Tucker - or anyone els for that matter. Putin is proving more of man by actually interviewing with someone and not hiding like President poopy pants.
Tucker Carlson's completely unbiased and totally objective view of Putin…reviewed:

2017
Quote:
"Why is Vladimir Putin such a bad guy? He's not Saddam Hussein, he's not Adolf Hitler, he's not a danger to the United States."

2019

Quote:
"We should probably take the side of Russia if we have to choose between Russia and Ukraine."
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 1:07p, 2/7/24
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Funky Winkerbean said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
Don't care. I want to hear it and I'll decide, not you, if it is worth hearing. Thanks for your concern though.

P.S. If certainty of honest answers was a prerequisite to interview politicians, there would be no such thing as "interviews with a politician".



Putin isn't a politician. He is a literal dictator


He's a dictator that still wants to control his image to his people.
You boys need to update wikipedia. They still think otherwise and claim "the new Constitution gained legitimacy through its bicameral legislature, an independent judiciary, the position of the president and the prime minister, and democratic features. These democratic features included competitive multi-party elections, separation of powers, federalism, and protection of civil liberties."
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1:09p, 2/7/24
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Talking about Tucker's softball interview/fawning praises for Putin/being a Putin puppet before the actual interview comes out is almost as worthless as talking about poll numbers 10 months out for an election or on why a candidate that cant garner more than 10% of his own party's primary voters would be a better candidate than the guy who schlonged him by 50 points.

Watch the interview and THEN discuss the merits on Carlson being "Hitler Youth".

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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 1:12p, 2/7/24
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Watch the interview and THEN discuss the merits on Carlson being "Hitler Youth".
That works for rational people. Unfortunately, the people parroting the Dem 'Russia Russia Russia' talking points repackaged for Tucker aren't rational people.
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1:14p, 2/7/24
Certain posters can't tell whether it's communism or fascism. A testament to our education system.
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In reply to Teslag • 1:16p, 2/7/24
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aggiehawg said:
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His party hasn't tried to jail his opposition so in that regard, he's less of a totalitarian than Biden.
Uhmm? he jails opposition leaders often. And if not imprisoning them, makes sure they suddenly develop the inability to pass by open windows without falling out.


That a girl


Yep, 'Hawg with another truth bomb.
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1:20p, 2/7/24
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Well, that escalated quickly ....

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In reply to NicosMachine • 1:22p, 2/7/24
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NicosMachine said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
Don't care. I want to hear it and I'll decide, not you, if it is worth hearing. Thanks for your concern though.

P.S. If certainty of honest answers was a prerequisite to interview politicians, there would be no such thing as "interviews with a politician".



Putin isn't a politician. He is a literal dictator
He is a politician. He is an elected President. There is another election this year in Russia. What are you, an "election denier"? His party hasn't tried to jail his primary opponent in this election, so in that regard he's less of a totalitarian than Biden.
do you know who Alexei Navalny is?
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In reply to CoppellAg93 • 1:26p, 2/7/24
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Well, that escalated quickly ....

Wait! what? Is that real?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:32p, 2/7/24
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CoppellAg93 said:
Well, that escalated quickly ....

Wait! what? Is that real?


It would be breaking news if it was real.

Definitely going to need to do the 48 hour wait on this one.
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In reply to K2-HMFIC • 1:33p, 2/7/24
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K2-HMFIC said:
NicosMachine said:
K2-HMFIC said:
NicosMachine said:
K2-HMFIC said:
NicosMachine said:
LMCane said:
Putin is a war criminal and an enemy of the United States.

Would we be happy about interviewing Adolf Hitler in 1943 to hear his views of the world? Would we have wanted to have King George III give interviews to Americans in 1778?

it comes down to do you support distributing enemy propaganda during a time of war.

I'm not saying it's immoral- but it is certainly not something to be celebrated.

so many of you are such inflexible ideologues that you will justify the dumbest ideas as long as you think it "hurts" the left.

all the while using leftist tactics. I certainly have no interest in anything Bin Laden had to say in 2003, (and now notice how American teens are praising Bin-Laden speeches!)

I have no interest in listening to the Mullahs in Iran, or Hamas, or Hizbullah, or Xi ShenPing, or Kim Jung Un.

but then that's because I am a patriotic American not interested in enemy propaganda against the United States.
Every American President since the outset of the 20th century has been accused of being a "war criminal". Most of us are smart enough to discern the truth. Thus, we are not afraid to hear opposing views regardless of how "horrendous" they may sound. Only someone without a sound, rational basis for their convictions is afraid to hear other people speak. You don't have to watch or listen if you don't believe you cannot discern truth from a lie or good from bad. Those who can defend their beliefs are no less patriotic but in fact more patriotic than someone who does not trust their fellow countrymen with information.
I remember when Biden/Nixon/Obama/Bush/Trump started lacing political rivals tea with polonium, or nerve gas, or defenestrated any journalist who said something critical.
You act like I'm defending Putin. That is a straw man. I'm defending free and open speech and exchange of ideas. You don't trust Americans to hear information but you seemingly believe the CIA developed and stockpiled poisons and the means to surreptitiously administer them but just "left it at that". Okie dokie comrade.
Why did Putin choose Tucker?
I also believe Putin is aware of the massive amount of anti-Russian propaganda being disseminated in the United States and he probably doesn't trust the main purveyors of anti-Russian information to interview him. You could just as easily ask why Biden won't do an interview with Tucker - or anyone els for that matter. Putin is proving more of man by actually interviewing with someone and not hiding like President poopy pants.
Tucker Carlson's completely unbiased and totally objective view of Putin…reviewed:

2017
Quote:
"Why is Vladimir Putin such a bad guy? He's not Saddam Hussein, he's not Adolf Hitler, he's not a danger to the United States."

2019

Quote:
"We should probably take the side of Russia if we have to choose between Russia and Ukraine."
As opposed to the unbiased view of whom? Don't be scared. The interview won't hurt you.
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1:37p, 2/7/24
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Elon weighs in. He has his own battles with the EU.

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1:40p, 2/7/24
I think they will assasinate Elon.

The guy is seriously red pilled and has too much influence.
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In reply to Old Army Metal • 1:41p, 2/7/24
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Old Army Metal said:
NicosMachine said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
Teslag said:
NicosMachine said:
I, for one, am excited to see and hear Putin uncensored and unfiltered. Hopefully Tucker will ask why he invaded Ukraine, what are his objectives, and what will it take, in Putin's opinion, to end the war. What would it take for the U.S. and Russia to become economic and political allies? We have a lot more in common now that the Dems have taken down a socialist/totalitarian path while Russia has emerged from the Communist path. Maybe we are meeting in the middle.


Putin will not give accurate answers to any of these question. It's not in his interest to do so.
Don't care. I want to hear it and I'll decide, not you, if it is worth hearing. Thanks for your concern though.

P.S. If certainty of honest answers was a prerequisite to interview politicians, there would be no such thing as "interviews with a politician".



Putin isn't a politician. He is a literal dictator
He is a politician. He is an elected President. There is another election this year in Russia. What are you, an "election denier"? His party hasn't tried to jail his primary opponent in this election, so in that regard he's less of a totalitarian than Biden.
do you know who Alexei Navalny is?
Yep. Heard of him. Nothing about him makes me want to watch Putin's interview more or less. Do you know who "Donald Trump is"? Just because the opposition has tried to remove him from power and now is trying to prevent him from opposing the incumbent President doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see a Biden/Carlson interview. Don't worry, Putin doesn't want to hurt you.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:43p, 2/7/24
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Elon weighs in. He has his own battles with the EU.



This is something that'll be interesting to keep an eye on. I know the EU has no problem putting private companies in check, but this is a whole new type of issue.

Any idea if they (EU) have any real grounds, 'Hawg?
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Any idea if they (EU) have any real grounds, 'Hawg?
That's a loaded question. What we consider a 1st amendment issue as freedom of the press, the EU does not have such an understanding. So the grounds of the beefs they have with Elon are real enough to them.
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aggiehawg said:
CoppellAg93 said:
Well, that escalated quickly ....

Wait! what? Is that real?
I've seen that a few times with different people. Not legit.
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Yeah, the EU is an absolutely fascist body when it comes to political speach/media:

Source: Ukrainian state media (Pravda) https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/02/7/7440814/
Quote:
Members of the European Parliament have called for sanctions to be imposed on infamous former Fox News host Tucker Carlson over his interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin, including a ban on entry to the EU.

Source: European Pravda with reference to Newsweek

Quote from MEP Urmas Paet: "Carlson wants to give a platform to someone accused of crimes of genocidethis is wrong. If Putin has something to say he needs to say it in front of the ICC. At the same time Carlson is not being a real journalist since he has clearly expressed his sympathy for the Russian regime and Putin and has constantly disparaged Ukraine, the victim of Russian aggression.

So, for such propaganda for a criminal regime, you can end up on the list of sanctions. This concerns primarily a travel ban to EU countries."

Details: Carlson, who visited Russia earlier this week, said on Tuesday that he would soon publish an interview with Putin.
"As Putin is a war criminal and the EU sanctions all who assist him in that effort, it seems logical that the External Action Service examine his case as well," Guy Verhofstadt, a current member of the European Parliament, said.
Former MEP Luis Garicano told Newsweek he agreed with Verhofstadt's stance.
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Thanks. It is sad to me that Zelensky's recent actions would cause me to not dismiss that automatically. Becoming increasingly uncomfortable with him.
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aggiehawg said:
Thanks. It is sad to me that Zelensky's recent actions would cause me to not dismiss that automatically. Becoming increasingly uncomfortable with him.
If he's on a hit list (like Gonzalo Lira) then you'll eventually know.
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1:52p, 2/7/24
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The "progressives" on this thread remind of the great Godfrey Elfwick, God rest his soul.


"Is free speech really worth the price of people being able to say whatever they like?"

-Godfrey Elfwick
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In reply to Teslag • 1:54p, 2/7/24
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. WE started this war in Ukraine by giving Putin and Russia no choice but to defend themselves.


Ya, Russia has always been a friendly neighbor going back 100 years. And then Ukraine did the unthinkable and tried to join a defensive alliance. Basically an equivalent to Pearl Harbor.


Get out of here with this nonsense


You're missing the point. The point is we are trying to surround Russia with NATO countries right on their border when we made an agreement with them that we would not do that. Russia does not want Nukes or all kinds of other weapons parked and aimed at them right on their border. I don't blame them..
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In reply to Old McDonald • 1:54p, 2/7/24
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Old McDonald said:
we're about to see perhaps the most softball interview of all time
LOL. Nope that's when any mainstream station interviews a Dem President or Dem candidate.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

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In reply to Keller6Ag91 • 1:55p, 2/7/24
Keller6Ag91 said:
Old McDonald said:
we're about to see perhaps the most softball interview of all time
LOL. Nope that's when any mainstream station interviews a Dem President or Dem candidate.
Yea cause tucker didnt softball Trump, youre a delusional as leftists
Tucker Carlson is an Enemy of the State and should be treated as such
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