FL's COVID Grand Jury Presentation

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Pinochet
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ts5641 said:

DallasAg 94 said:

TRM said:

Tracy Beanz has a good breakdown in this thread. Lot's stuff - masks don't work and they knew. Hospitals were one of the safest places to be. The 6 feet rule was garbage. I hope they make some indictments.
I was assured by one of the Nurses in our group that as someone who is unVaxxed I should be denied care at a Hospital... I apparently didn't know as much as she did.

Oh, I challenged here, but few people in that group believed me when I tried to explain masks don't work and the 6' rule was dumb. She "knew more" because she was a nurse.

She also believed that getting the Vaxx was a way to protect your loved ones because you couldn't spread it to them, if you yourself was Vaxxed.

The state of Health Care. And people question why I don't trust "Health Care Professionals." I spent more time researching the science than all the (5) nurses and doctors I had friendships wit
After the mask mandates lifted, I got into a discussion with a nurse practitioner, who worked in a NICU unit at a hospital. I was telling him about all the research showing that masks don't really stop the spread of RSV virus. He shouted "I'm literally an expert on this. You cannot argue this with me."
I lost so much respect for the medical community during covid.

I'll do you one better. Old friend of my wife had gone to A&M (not sure if she actually finished undergrad) and then told all her friends she was staying in CS to go to med school. Except she never went to med school while telling everyone she was. Eventually that lie falls apart when people realize you've been there way too long for med school and always seem to be able to do whatever you want without worrying about studying or anything else. She then started lecturing whoever would listen about 6 feet, herd immunity, masks, and mRNA by repeating whatever the lib talking point of the day was, all while calling herself an epidemiologist. Apparently she thought things like that are like bankrupty - you just declare it to be true.
Waffledynamics
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joekm3 said:

BigRobSA said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Desantis is a stud. While he doesn't have the cult of personality of Trump, he's driven by policy and just get stuff done.

Much rather vote for him than anyone else


That's why I am writing him in on my ballot.


#YoTambien


Man, y'all sure showing them who's boss and helping Biden get elected.
Y'all said you didn't want or need DeSantis supporters. Now, you try to shame them into compliance. Some of us are not yet convinced.

Trump and his supporters have about 9 months to start trying to win back people they alienated in one of the most dishonest and disingenuous primary smear campaigns I've ever seen Republicans pull on one another. Some commentators that I used to respect even openly admitted it was all BS and that they didn't believe their own words after DeSantis finally suspended his campaign. Quite frankly, some of those people that were alienated are just plain gone and not coming back.

There is currently a battle of meritocracy vs. entitlement in this country. Don't get mad when the people that favor meritocracy continue to do so and don't automatically switch to voting for a blowhard New York Democrat after his stunts.

Back on topic: DeSantis once again shows he actually gives people what they really want and can actually deliver policy wins. As someone who is extremely angry about what happened with Covid, this really means something. I want accountability.
BigRobSA
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I knew it was all bs from day one, but the funniest part was the run on TP an paper towels.

Dafuq!?
Muy
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BigRobSA said:

I knew it was all bs from day one, but the funniest part was the run on TP an paper towels.

Dafuq!?


Americans' behavior during Covid will forever go down as the lowest moment in our nation's history.
Muy
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BigRobSA said:

Muy said:

BigRobSA said:

Muy said:

Eso si, Que es said:

Muy said:

BigRobSA said:

Fat Black Swan said:

DeSantis doing work.

His concerned moderate supporters will remain silent.


Yet another W in his column. Too bad the GOP is full of Derpy McDerp libs who are all feelz.


Why can't we want Trump to finish the job, DeSantis to keep showing the country how to run things, and use the next 4 years to groom DeSantis to take over in 2028 when he's ready?
In what way is he not ready now? He is doing it better than anyone else. I would rather Desantis to actually do it now vs Trump to tweet about doing it.

And Trump is as unelectable as Biden at this point. Trump is the Dallas cowboys of politicians. People love him or hate him and there really isn't any in between. Worse, he is the Dallas Cowboys on the day day after they fired Tom Landry because most of his "fans" are seriously questioning him.


He's clearly not ready to run as he got slaughtered by a guy who never even had to debate him. He needs to be better groomed for the national stage in terms of exciting Americans to vote for him.

How do you fix people being ****ing tards?


Not sure if you mean that I'm the R, but in terms of the general voting population I wish I knew. DeSantis can and will be a better President, but unfortunately he wasn't a great campaigner this round.

I hope he's ready to kick ass in 2028.


He campaigned just fine. Too many morons in the GOP, and elsewhere, libbing it up with "muh feels" instead of using their brains and voting accordingly.

ETA: if one prefers Trump, versus DeSantis, then yes...that person is a tard.


I do this year. I believed Trump was doing some great things and only someone with his ego could go against the entire swamp. I want him to get back to what he was doing and honestly to break liberals before DeSantis takes over.
agracer
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Maroon Dawn said:

BG Knocc Out said:

The only thing I ever thought actually made sense (if you're truly trying to prevent spread) was the social distancing thing in grocery stores etc. Masks are BS, vaccines were BS, so much was BS. But I bet I am significantly more likely to get sick from someone standing 1 ft away from them than 3 ft. And 3 ft vs 6 ft. Any contagious illness…just makes sense that standing further away helps to a statistically significant degree.



And you all waited 6 feet apart to go touch the exact same touchscreen credit card reader that was not cleaned in between use rendering all that distancing useless


It was mostly transmitted airborne and the whole touch surface thing was not the primary transmission mechanism.

That and wash your hands.

Standing far apart for sure makes sense, but the 6' number was completely pulled out.
joekm3
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FL_Ag1998 said:

joekm3 said:

BigRobSA said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Desantis is a stud. While he doesn't have the cult of personality of Trump, he's driven by policy and just get stuff done.

Much rather vote for him than anyone else


That's why I am writing him in on my ballot.


#YoTambien


Man, y'all sure showing them who's boss and helping Biden get elected.


That's a lazy, myopic take and simply an excuse to shame people into voting for a lame candidate.

"If you don't vote for Trump then you're voting for Biden!"

B.S.

I'm not "showing" anyone, I'm simply voting for the best candidate in my opinion, as my citizenship of the U.S. guarantees me the right to.


Bless your heart. Slander me as you please, but writing in anyone in the general is aiding and abetting the dems. There's nothing lazy about stating a fact.
Keller6Ag91
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FL_Ag1998 said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Desantis is a stud. While he doesn't have the cult of personality of Trump, he's driven by policy and just get stuff done.

Much rather vote for him than anyone else


That's why I am writing him in on my ballot.
I completely understand that logic. The flip side is IF Trump is the R nominee (I don't like it either), he's still better than the D nominee every day and twice on Sunday.

We can't let Biden have 4 more years.....the damage may be irreperable.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
FL_Ag1998
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joekm3 said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

joekm3 said:

BigRobSA said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Desantis is a stud. While he doesn't have the cult of personality of Trump, he's driven by policy and just get stuff done.

Much rather vote for him than anyone else


That's why I am writing him in on my ballot.


#YoTambien


Man, y'all sure showing them who's boss and helping Biden get elected.


That's a lazy, myopic take and simply an excuse to shame people into voting for a lame candidate.

"If you don't vote for Trump then you're voting for Biden!"

B.S.

I'm not "showing" anyone, I'm simply voting for the best candidate in my opinion, as my citizenship of the U.S. guarantees me the right to.


Bless your heart. Slander me as you please, but writing in anyone in the general is aiding and abetting the dems. There's nothing lazy about stating a fact.


Bless your heart, that's still not a convincing reason to vote for Trump. Just a reason to vote against Biden. And that's what I'm doing.
Pinochet
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The 6' made sense because I hate people and they smell. Standing 6' away was helpful so I didn't have to talk to them. The masks were a travesty because it gave ugly people the ability to act like they were hot.
joekm3
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FL_Ag1998 said:

joekm3 said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

joekm3 said:

BigRobSA said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Desantis is a stud. While he doesn't have the cult of personality of Trump, he's driven by policy and just get stuff done.

Much rather vote for him than anyone else


That's why I am writing him in on my ballot.


#YoTambien


Man, y'all sure showing them who's boss and helping Biden get elected.


That's a lazy, myopic take and simply an excuse to shame people into voting for a lame candidate.

"If you don't vote for Trump then you're voting for Biden!"

B.S.

I'm not "showing" anyone, I'm simply voting for the best candidate in my opinion, as my citizenship of the U.S. guarantees me the right to.


Bless your heart. Slander me as you please, but writing in anyone in the general is aiding and abetting the dems. There's nothing lazy about stating a fact.


Bless your heart, that's still not a convincing reason to vote for Trump. Just a reason to vote against Biden. And that's what I'm doing.


Voting against Biden is not enough. Presidential elections in today's world are binary decisions as they relate to results. I would have preferred DeSantis, but it ain't happening. Voting for him anyway really does little good. We do not need Biden, Newsom, M Obama, or any of the other leftists. That opinion does not warrant the accusation of being lazy or myopic. Go ahead and flip your finger at reality though.
BigRobSA
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Pinochet said:

The 6' made sense because I hate people and they smell. Standing 6' away was helpful so I didn't have to talk to them. The masks were a travesty because it gave ugly people the ability to act like they were hot.


People.



Not a fan.
Muy
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Pinochet said:

The 6' made sense because I hate people and they smell. Standing 6' away was helpful so I didn't have to talk to them. The masks were a travesty because it gave ugly people the ability to act like they were hot.


There's a little Italian restaurant near me. During Covid a buddy and I would hit the bar after golf, and the bartender gal looked smoking hot. She has a nice figure, but once the masks were removed we felt let down.
BigRobSA
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"Butterface"
Muy
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BigRobSA said:

"Butterface"


Not horrifically, we just envisioned more. The body was still rocking.
aggiehawg
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Muy said:

BigRobSA said:

"Butterface"


Not horrifically, we just envisioned more. The body was still rocking.
You know the old saying: You ain't staring at the mantle while stoking the fire.
Daddy
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Maroon Dawn said:

Muy said:

BigRobSA said:

Fat Black Swan said:

DeSantis doing work.

His concerned moderate supporters will remain silent.


Yet another W in his column. Too bad the GOP is full of Derpy McDerp libs who are all feelz.


Why can't we want Trump to finish the job, DeSantis to keep showing the country how to run things, and use the next 4 years to groom DeSantis to take over in 2028 when he's ready?


Because DeSantis could actually win over the independents

Trump is going to lose by a very wide margin and the sad part is y'all won't believe it until Election Day and "we told you so" won't matter as we get 4 more years of Dem tyranny destroying the economy and our freedoms


Desantis couldn't even win his own state and he's a great candidate.

You Don't know what you're looking at but Trump is dominating right now the entire country.

Then you have to do is quit listening to the media the father of all lies controls the media

Use your own gut your own senses

One person doesn't campaign it's running the worst economy and is the worst president in anyone's lifetime in American history

The other is packing $70,000 in stadiums with people waiting outside in a harsh conditions

People never show up to vote for hate as much as one votes to love

I don't go to my kids rivals football game and cheer for the other team but I show up from my kids game.


2025
America Makes a Comeback
BigRobSA
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Daddy said:


The other is packing $70,000 in stadiums with people waiting outside in a harsh conditions.



That's one way to get people to attend rallies. Give them $70k.
richardag
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joekm3 said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

joekm3 said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

joekm3 said:

BigRobSA said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Desantis is a stud. While he doesn't have the cult of personality of Trump, he's driven by policy and just get stuff done.

Much rather vote for him than anyone else
That's why I am writing him in on my ballot.
#YoTambien
Man, y'all sure showing them who's boss and helping Biden get elected.
That's a lazy, myopic take and simply an excuse to shame people into voting for a lame candidate.

"If you don't vote for Trump then you're voting for Biden!"

B.S.

I'm not "showing" anyone, I'm simply voting for the best candidate in my opinion, as my citizenship of the U.S. guarantees me the right to.
Bless your heart. Slander me as you please, but writing in anyone in the general is aiding and abetting the dems. There's nothing lazy about stating a fact.
Bless your heart, that's still not a convincing reason to vote for Trump. Just a reason to vote against Biden. And that's what I'm doing.
Voting against Biden is not enough. Presidential elections in today's world are binary decisions as they relate to results. I would have preferred DeSantis, but it ain't happening. Voting for him anyway really does little good. We do not need Biden, Newsom, M Obama, or any of the other leftists. That opinion does not warrant the accusation of being lazy or myopic. Go ahead and flip your finger at reality though.
"Presidential elections in today's world are binary decisions" true statement
Much is made of the fact that people will vote for 3rd party or write in vote a candidate that will lose.

IMHO it isn't so much the vote, it is the constant berating a candidate that doesn't agree with their preferred policies. There are numerous posters here that have my respect and I am sure people they know and converse with respect their opinion. Wondering how many may take it to heart and say,"damn that sounds right so I will vote for someone without a snowballs chance in hell of winning. Some of these posters are business owners, executives etc. that I would bet command the respect of their peers and subordinate and friends.

I will conclude with, Ron DeSantis suspends his presidential bid and endorses Trump.
from the article
  • "It's clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance," he said, adding: "He has my endorsement because we can't go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear, a repackaged form of warmed-over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents."

I wish he was the Republican nominee, but I completely agree with his statement above. I believe the country is at an inflection point and any recovery from another 4 or more years of Democratic Party leadership control will take decades for recovery if ever.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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88planoAg said:

BG Knocc Out said:

The only thing I ever thought actually made sense (if you're truly trying to prevent spread) was the social distancing thing in grocery stores etc. Masks are BS, vaccines were BS, so much was BS. But I bet I am significantly more likely to get sick from someone standing 1 ft away from them than 3 ft. And 3 ft vs 6 ft. Any contagious illness…just makes sense that standing further away helps to a statistically significant degree.
But now we have Fauci saying they just made that up. Not based in science at all.

While things that are based in science, like natural immunity, were actively denounced as anti science.
the natural immunity denouncement may be the worst of all deviations from science - given that a vaccine triggers the body to fight it and build antibodies to mimic the bodies response to actually getting the virus. That was the biggest flag that this was about money and control. Health was never the primary driver.
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FL_Ag1998 said:

joekm3 said:

BigRobSA said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

Keller6Ag91 said:

Desantis is a stud. While he doesn't have the cult of personality of Trump, he's driven by policy and just get stuff done.

Much rather vote for him than anyone else


That's why I am writing him in on my ballot.


#YoTambien


Man, y'all sure showing them who's boss and helping Biden get elected.


That's a lazy, myopic take and simply an excuse to shame people into voting for a lame candidate.

"If you don't vote for Trump then you're voting for Biden!"

B.S.

I'm not "showing" anyone, I'm simply voting for the best candidate in my opinion, as my citizenship of mere presence in the U.S. guarantees me the right to.
FIFY
joekm3
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It is absolutely your right to vote for whoever you want. It doesn't change my opinion that write-in and 3rd party votes are FU wasted efforts. So far, no one has presented a case to refute that. I've been called lazy and myopic, but that refutes nothing. I'm pragmatic. Once the general election rolls around, either the D or R is going to get elected, and any R is facing a headwind given the D machine and the NWO Rs. Rs need every vote they can get. BTW: Don't kid yourself. Trump has taken all of the blows. If he's out of the mix, the R nominee no matter who it is will be slandered and attacked with the full vile and force of the left.
BigRobSA
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joekm3 said:

It is absolutely your right to vote for whoever you want. It doesn't change my opinion that write-in and 3rd party votes are FU wasted efforts. So far, no one has presented a case to refute that. I've been called lazy and myopic, but that refutes nothing. I'm pragmatic. Once the general election rolls around, either the D or R is going to get elected, and any R is facing a headwind given the D machine and the NWO Rs. Rs need every vote they can get. BTW: Don't kid yourself. Trump has taken all of the blows. If he's out of the mix, the R nominee no matter who it is will be slandered and attacked with the full vile and force of the left.

Using myself as an example:

Nobody owns my vote. Not the GOP, not the Dems, not 3rd party, nobody. So, there is no -1 in the math.

So, if I vote other-than-lib (not Dem or Repub), the math goes like this:
D - 0
R - 0
3rd - +1

Nobody lost. And only the 3rd gained.

And nobody thinks that other-than-Trump would be spared the vile viciousness of a media/Dem onslaught. It's just that other-than-Trump doesn't fan the flames.
Muy
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aggiehawg said:

Muy said:

BigRobSA said:

"Butterface"


Not horrifically, we just envisioned more. The body was still rocking.
You know the old saying: You ain't staring at the mantle while stoking the fire.


Excellent point
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joekm3
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BigRobSA said:

joekm3 said:

It is absolutely your right to vote for whoever you want. It doesn't change my opinion that write-in and 3rd party votes are FU wasted efforts. So far, no one has presented a case to refute that. I've been called lazy and myopic, but that refutes nothing. I'm pragmatic. Once the general election rolls around, either the D or R is going to get elected, and any R is facing a headwind given the D machine and the NWO Rs. Rs need every vote they can get. BTW: Don't kid yourself. Trump has taken all of the blows. If he's out of the mix, the R nominee no matter who it is will be slandered and attacked with the full vile and force of the left.

Using myself as an example:

Nobody owns my vote. Not the GOP, not the Dems, not 3rd party, nobody. So, there is no -1 in the math.

So, if I vote other-than-lib (not Dem or Repub), the math goes like this:
D - 0
R - 0
3rd - +1

Nobody lost. And only the 3rd gained.

And nobody thinks that other-than-Trump would be spared the vile viciousness of a media/Dem onslaught. It's just that other-than-Trump doesn't fan the flames.


You're assuming that all else is even. It is not. Dems for the most part don't break the line. Also, the ballot harvesting efforts on the D side are next level. If you actually believe that you're fine with the results either way, Biden or Trump, then your math is fine. For me, we cannot have another Biden or any other Obama puppet term.
TRM
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