When did Trump lose you?

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GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
It WAS that at first. More PR and pumping up the brand. He didn't think he'd actually beat Hillary. He was just as shocked as she was on election night.

I'm not even fully convinced he wants to be president again. He just can't stomach losing to Biden and wants to go out on a high note. Also he knows he's cooked in court and becoming president is his only out, so he's using every delay tactic in the book.

His most incredible grift was convincing the working class that he's a champion for them. And convincing a bunch of gullible people (some of whom are otherwise educated) that the election was stolen from him.
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But to answer the OP, Trump lost me the second he walked down that escalator in 2015. I (and most people who knew who he was) always knew he was a New Yorker blowhard with no principles at all and a total narcissist. But pre-2015 it was in a funny, entertaining kind of way. Now it's in a horrifying way. Being funny and entertaining on TV does not translate well to being the president of the richest and most powerful country on earth.
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Stupe said:

When he started firing everyone that disagreed with him and running his mouth about them. His mouth and his inability to keep it shut is why we have Biden.

Now we have the choice between an egomaniac child and whatever Marxist puppet the Dems end up running.


good points here
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barbacoa taco said:

GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
It WAS that at first. More PR and pumping up the brand. He didn't think he'd actually beat Hillary. He was just as shocked as she was on election night.

I'm not even fully convinced he wants to be president again. He just can't stomach losing to Biden and wants to go out on a high note. Also he knows he's cooked in court and becoming president is his only out, so he's using every delay tactic in the book.

His most incredible grift was convincing the working class that he's a champion for them. And convincing a bunch of gullible people (some of whom are otherwise educated) that the election was stolen from him.
That's the most amazing thing to me.

A working class dude in Alabama thinks a New Yorker real estate mogul born a multimillionaire "gets them."'

An evangelical thinks a dude married three times who banged a porn star during his last wife's pregnancy; can't name his favorite bible verse, even one, and never goes to Church is devoutly religious.

It's crazy.
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aggie93 said:

This is a great example of what happens to you eventually if you support Trump. This guy was a hardcore Trump supporter who was at the NH Victory Party after knocking 12,000 Doors for Trump. He was at Jan 6. Unfortunately he took a picture with Trump's lawyer and posted it. He didn't realize that she had lied to the Judge in Trump's Court Case that she had a Fever and Covid and thus needed a delay in the trial when the real reason was she wanted to go to the NH Victory Party. Kid was just excited to see Trump's lawyer and take a picture. Now he is excommunicated.

Here is the pic and the video of him being kicked out:





Taking that at face value, that is absolute insanity.

But the response from MAGA will be 'still better than biden' and 'mean tweets'
The first response to it was exactly this...
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GeorgiAg said:

barbacoa taco said:

GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
It WAS that at first. More PR and pumping up the brand. He didn't think he'd actually beat Hillary. He was just as shocked as she was on election night.

I'm not even fully convinced he wants to be president again. He just can't stomach losing to Biden and wants to go out on a high note. Also he knows he's cooked in court and becoming president is his only out, so he's using every delay tactic in the book.

His most incredible grift was convincing the working class that he's a champion for them. And convincing a bunch of gullible people (some of whom are otherwise educated) that the election was stolen from him.
That's the most amazing thing to me.

A working class dude in Alabama thinks a New Yorker real estate mogul born a multimillionaire "gets them."'

An evangelical thinks a dude married three times who banged a porn star during his last wife's pregnancy; can't name his favorite bible verse, even one, and never goes to Church is devoutly religious.

It's crazy.
also regularly ****s people over in deals, stiffs his contractors, has a million legal issues civil and criminal going on all the time (and this predates his presidency), regularly lies about everything, seeks power above all else, tries to completely ruin the careers and lives of anyone who disagrees with him. He's pure evil. The least Christian guy EVER, but the evangelicals still love him so much.

I will never, ever understand it.
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Narcissistic clown.

And yes, Biden needs to be in a retirement home. The corruption of the current system is a disgrace.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

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alas, the 3D chess master just played right into their hands.
And what's your favorite flavor of freedom or fiscal responsibility that Joe Biden has brought to the country since his inauguration?
We're not talking about Joe Biden. We're talking about Trump. Don't change the subject.
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barbacoa taco said:

GeorgiAg said:

barbacoa taco said:

GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
It WAS that at first. More PR and pumping up the brand. He didn't think he'd actually beat Hillary. He was just as shocked as she was on election night.

I'm not even fully convinced he wants to be president again. He just can't stomach losing to Biden and wants to go out on a high note. Also he knows he's cooked in court and becoming president is his only out, so he's using every delay tactic in the book.

His most incredible grift was convincing the working class that he's a champion for them. And convincing a bunch of gullible people (some of whom are otherwise educated) that the election was stolen from him.
That's the most amazing thing to me.

A working class dude in Alabama thinks a New Yorker real estate mogul born a multimillionaire "gets them."'

An evangelical thinks a dude married three times who banged a porn star during his last wife's pregnancy; can't name his favorite bible verse, even one, and never goes to Church is devoutly religious.

It's crazy.
also regularly ****s people over in deals, stiffs his contractors, has a million legal issues civil and criminal going on all the time (and this predates his presidency), regularly lies about everything, seeks power above all else, tries to completely ruin the careers and lives of anyone who disagrees with him. He's pure evil. The least Christian guy EVER, but the evangelicals still love him so much.

I will never, ever understand it.
You just described 99.9% of all politicians.
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I'm disgusted that the entire government and almost all of the Senate and House closely resemble the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Trump is certainly no one to look up to but I'll vote for him over anything the "Democratic Socialists" put out there.
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GeorgiAg said:

barbacoa taco said:

GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
It WAS that at first. More PR and pumping up the brand. He didn't think he'd actually beat Hillary. He was just as shocked as she was on election night.

I'm not even fully convinced he wants to be president again. He just can't stomach losing to Biden and wants to go out on a high note. Also he knows he's cooked in court and becoming president is his only out, so he's using every delay tactic in the book.

His most incredible grift was convincing the working class that he's a champion for them. And convincing a bunch of gullible people (some of whom are otherwise educated) that the election was stolen from him.
That's the most amazing thing to me.

A working class dude in Alabama thinks a New Yorker real estate mogul born a multimillionaire "gets them."'

An evangelical thinks a dude married three times who banged a porn star during his last wife's pregnancy; can't name his favorite bible verse, even one, and never goes to Church is devoutly religious.

It's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy, but it's still less crazy than voting for a senile pedophile.
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No I did not. Even knowing most politicians are slime balls, Trump is an extraordinary kind.

Don't try to "both sides" this.
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Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

barbacoa taco said:

GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
It WAS that at first. More PR and pumping up the brand. He didn't think he'd actually beat Hillary. He was just as shocked as she was on election night.

I'm not even fully convinced he wants to be president again. He just can't stomach losing to Biden and wants to go out on a high note. Also he knows he's cooked in court and becoming president is his only out, so he's using every delay tactic in the book.

His most incredible grift was convincing the working class that he's a champion for them. And convincing a bunch of gullible people (some of whom are otherwise educated) that the election was stolen from him.
That's the most amazing thing to me.

A working class dude in Alabama thinks a New Yorker real estate mogul born a multimillionaire "gets them."'

An evangelical thinks a dude married three times who banged a porn star during his last wife's pregnancy; can't name his favorite bible verse, even one, and never goes to Church is devoutly religious.

It's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy, but it's still less crazy than voting for a senile pedophile.

Vote for neither of the clownass dip****s.
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Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

barbacoa taco said:

GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
It WAS that at first. More PR and pumping up the brand. He didn't think he'd actually beat Hillary. He was just as shocked as she was on election night.

I'm not even fully convinced he wants to be president again. He just can't stomach losing to Biden and wants to go out on a high note. Also he knows he's cooked in court and becoming president is his only out, so he's using every delay tactic in the book.

His most incredible grift was convincing the working class that he's a champion for them. And convincing a bunch of gullible people (some of whom are otherwise educated) that the election was stolen from him.
That's the most amazing thing to me.

A working class dude in Alabama thinks a New Yorker real estate mogul born a multimillionaire "gets them."'

An evangelical thinks a dude married three times who banged a porn star during his last wife's pregnancy; can't name his favorite bible verse, even one, and never goes to Church is devoutly religious.

It's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy, but it's still less crazy than voting for a senile pedophile.


I could be wrong here, but i dont see many on here as Biden voters, simply extremely frustrated Americans.

I think you are seeing the frustration at the fact that our great country has these two options for its leader: a new york liberal fraudster vs a drooling potato.

This just simply can't be our best two option, yet here we are.
Do right and bear the consequences. -Sam Houston
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BigRobSA said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

barbacoa taco said:

GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
It WAS that at first. More PR and pumping up the brand. He didn't think he'd actually beat Hillary. He was just as shocked as she was on election night.

I'm not even fully convinced he wants to be president again. He just can't stomach losing to Biden and wants to go out on a high note. Also he knows he's cooked in court and becoming president is his only out, so he's using every delay tactic in the book.

His most incredible grift was convincing the working class that he's a champion for them. And convincing a bunch of gullible people (some of whom are otherwise educated) that the election was stolen from him.
That's the most amazing thing to me.

A working class dude in Alabama thinks a New Yorker real estate mogul born a multimillionaire "gets them."'

An evangelical thinks a dude married three times who banged a porn star during his last wife's pregnancy; can't name his favorite bible verse, even one, and never goes to Church is devoutly religious.

It's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy, but it's still less crazy than voting for a senile pedophile.

Vote for neither of the clownass dip****s.


Yea how did that work out for the country last time.

Some people are not capable of understanding the simplest concepts.
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
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When Trump bombed SoleimaniII!! Oh, this thread is for dumping on Trump, continue please.
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GeorgiAg said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

GeorgiAg said:

I thought his candidacy was actual fraud/joke in 2015/2016. I think he thought it was a joke and was just trying to pump up his brand but then morons actually started to consider his schtick to be real. A New Yorker born on third base pretending to be some kind of economic wizard when all he is is King of the Grift.

He has been grifting off the Presidency ever since. Now he's a cornered mafia-style schmuck whose only hope to avoid jail is to get elected President again. He is now absolutely desperate and will do or say anything to get reelected to avoid prison. He wipes his ass with the Constitution and calls it fighting the "Deep State."
Give ONE example of Trump wiping his ass with the Constitution and I will 1) prove you wrong, and 2) give you TWO examples from the Hussein and Xiden regimes of ACTUALLY doing it.

Remember when he organized a rally in Washington DC for the day of the certification of the vote for an election he lost and was urging his VP to defy the Constitution and refuse - then he sent his mob of miscreants to the Capitol to exert pressure to defy the constitution? They were threatening to hang the VP?

"oh but he won the election because of widespread cheating (we can't prove)" - MAGA.

"member when he called election officials in Georgia to get them to "find the votes."

"member when he took classified docs, then unlike Pence and Biden who cooperated and returned the docs, not only was uncooperative, but actively tried to conceal them from, and lied to, the U.S. Government?
No, I don't remember that. I remember Trump telling people to protest peacefully several times. I remember exploring Constitutional and legal ways to challenge a suspicious election within the 2 months available to do so and, when those were denied, leaving peacefully in a helicopter. If people were talking about hanging people, that would go against Trump's own words and you have to make up intentions to place on Trump. The couple of dozen people who were violent that day were going against Trump's words and were to some extent egged on my feds and cops gassing and firing rubber bullets into a theretofore peaceful crowd.

Now for Xiden and Hussein, which is MUCH easier based on their own actions.
1) ignoring federal immigration law to allow illegal immigrants to be released into the interior of the country
2) Running guns to Mexican cartels to try to subvert our 2nd amendment, getting a border agent killed in the process

Want to go again?
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IMHO a lot of people were ****ting on Desantis for looks, apparel and personal quirks.

Granted he can be odd at times, but he'll so can I. One thing Desantis has proven, he can govern and govern well. I knew he had a snowballs chance in hell to win the primary against Trump.

Having said that, 4 more years of any democrat in office will bring this country to its knees. Open borders, godless, allowing the sterilization of children, allowing predators to dress with children and women, anti-Semitic, racist and the list goes on of democrats policies. It will be the death knell of western values.

So I don't care if it is Trump or whoever, anyone but democrats. Doesn't matter if he "lost" me or not.

Groceries expensive af too
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SpreadsheetAg said:

I wanted DeSantis but will eagerly pull the trigger for Trump over [Democrat]
This is where I'm at.
I'd have gladly supported DeSantis or a guy like Tim Scott. They're not an option.
But what MUST be done...is unseat the party that's intentionally ripping apart the very fabric of America.
Biden has intentionally opened border access for MILLIONS of illegal crossing and brought lawsuits against anyone trying to slow it down. The democrats envision these as future Democrat voters.
They're indoctrinating children with extreme woke ideology that is NOT in line with the morals and values of their own parents.
They've intentionally sabotaged the energy sector and done so for financial reasons that suit their investors and their backers.
This nation is crumbling in ALL areas and it's intentional. So, yes...I'll vote for Trump....or ANYONE that will do something to stop the madness that is the Democrat agenda.
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When he ran against Hilary. After that, when he showed his true colors, he lost me.
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He NEVER lost me. I am an evangelical christian. In 2020, Trump received over 80% of the white evangelical vote. I appreciate what he has done for christians and the church. He is a modern day Cyrus.
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I very rarely vote FOR anyone. So I guess you can technically say I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020 for example because I did, but in my mind I was simply voting against Hillary and against Biden. What's changed for me now though is, as much as Trump insists on stepping on every rake around him, it's getting to the point where my reluctance to vote for him again is less about him and more about his increasingly cultish supporters. It's just weird.

I'm still telling myself at this point I'll vote for Trump again because he's easily the lesser of the two evils, and then I get on here and elsewhere and am just repulsed at the hero-worship I see. And let me tell you, this constant stream of "TDS" accusations is exactly like the left's old reliable "racist" chant. It's just a giant catch-all designed to shut down any nonconformity. It comes off as a 5-year-old screaming "Shut up!!!!!!! Shut up!!!!!!'

**** that.


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alamoaggie64 said:

When he ran against Hilary. After that, when he showed his true colors, he lost me.
Only reason Trump won. Dems ran: 1) a woman and 2) the most reviled and hated woman in the country.

A female can win the presidency, but she needs to be moderate/conservative an exceptional candidate, IMHO. See, Margaret Thatcher.
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I realized that we could do better when it became apparent that Trump lacked the support or the political skills to do anything besides issue executive orders.

The nail in the coffin was attacking DeSantis, where he made it clear that the election was about him, and not the country.
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Would have vastly preferred DeSantis.
But will happily vote for Trump more than any Commie the Democrats put up.

Don't bash Trump for the RNC failing us. Seriously? Haley? Letting Iowa decide who the candidate should be? And @#$@#@ New Hampshire?
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GeorgiAg said:

alamoaggie64 said:

When he ran against Hilary. After that, when he showed his true colors, he lost me.
Only reason Trump won. Dems ran: 1) a woman and 2) the most reviled and hated woman in the country.

A female can win the presidency, but she needs to be moderate/conservative an exceptional candidate, IMHO. See, Margaret Thatcher.
About 40 years ago I remember telling a friend that "a black man can win the Presidency, but he needs to be moderate/conservative"...along came Obama who presented a fairly moderate IMAGE.
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deddog said:

Would have vastly preferred DeSantis.
But will happily vote for Trump more than any Commie the Democrats put up.

Don't bash Trump for the RNC failing us. Seriously? Haley? Letting Iowa decide who the candidate should be? And @#$@#@ New Hampshire?
Trump sent his campaign manager to whip votes for Ronna as RNC Chair.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

I wanted DeSantis but will eagerly pull the trigger for Trump over [Democrat]


This.
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I'm going to grudgingly vote for Trump over the doddering chucklehead currently in the white house.
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He lost me when he trashed John McCain and belittled the time McCain spent at the Hanoi Hilton. Bragging about sexually assaulting women and being able to get away with it because he was "a star" simply solidified my already intense dislike of the man.

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agape79 said:

He NEVER lost me. I am an evangelical christian. In 2020, Trump received over 80% of the white evangelical vote. I appreciate what he has done for christians and the church. He is a modern day Cyrus.
I don't understand this.

  • what church does he go to? How often does he go?
  • Does he tithe?
  • you saw where he can't even name a favorite bible verse?
  • you heard the clip where he talked about grabbing women by their privates and that he just kisses women he finds attractive?
  • you are aware he had sex with a porn star when his wife just had a pregnancy and had to pay her off to try and keep her quiet?
  • you are aware that he had been adjudicated by a jury of raping a woman?
  • you are of numerous other accusations of impropriety with other women?
  • He has a widespread reputation of stiffing and having bad business ethics. What does the bible say about business ethics?

How on Earth is this man a hero to evangelical Christians?
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The USA was drifting gentle into that good night. voting for Jeb Bush
Nobody was calling out leftism loudly before Trump. He sounded the alarm.

I predict he'll lose me sometime in the future. Not yet.

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WHOOP!'91 said:

aggie93 said:

This is a great example of what happens to you eventually if you support Trump. This guy was a hardcore Trump supporter who was at the NH Victory Party after knocking 12,000 Doors for Trump. He was at Jan 6. Unfortunately he took a picture with Trump's lawyer and posted it. He didn't realize that she had lied to the Judge in Trump's Court Case that she had a Fever and Covid and thus needed a delay in the trial when the real reason was she wanted to go to the NH Victory Party. Kid was just excited to see Trump's lawyer and take a picture. Now he is excommunicated.

Here is the pic and the video of him being kicked out:





That's awful! I am voting for the socialist!


Congrats, you've reduced your vote for President of the United States down to "this pile of dog crap stinks less than that other pile of dog crap, so I guess it should run the Free World!".
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GeorgiAg said:

agape79 said:

He NEVER lost me. I am an evangelical christian. In 2020, Trump received over 80% of the white evangelical vote. I appreciate what he has done for christians and the church. He is a modern day Cyrus.
I don't understand this.

  • what church does he go to? How often does he go?
  • Does he tithe?
  • you saw where he can't even name a favorite bible verse?
  • you heard the clip where he talked about grabbing women by their privates and that he just kisses women he finds attractive?
  • you are aware he had sex with a porn star when his wife just had a pregnancy and had to pay her off to try and keep her quiet?
  • you are aware that he had been adjudicated by a jury of raping a woman?
  • you are of numerous other accusations of impropriety with other women?
  • He has a widespread reputation of stiffing and having bad business ethics. What does the bible say about business ethics?

How on Earth is this man a hero to evangelical Christians?


All of that is clearly covered in Two Corinthians, Mister Falcon!!!!
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I always thought that he was just a loud mouth yankee.

Looks like I will have to vote for the loud mouth yankee again. I am voting Republican no matter who they put on the ticket. Amazing that we cannot find anyone in America that is more qualified.
 
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