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I'm really not sure what Vivek's angle was supposed to be. MAGA can only have one dear leader. Even if they liked him, he was never going to out-Trump Trump. Unless he was swinging for a VP position, I can't figure out what he thought he was playing at. Maybe rolling the dice that trump would die before the election and that he'd be next in line?

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A lot of people will be trying to position to take over the MAGA grift once Trump is dead and Vivek is one of them.

The inevitable MAGA civil war will be a hoot to watch.

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Time to start stocking up on the popcorn. It's gonna be one hell of a show.

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But MAGA don't like trump because he's MAGA. They love trump because he's trump. I don't think they could just plug-and-play a new dear leader and keep moving down the road like nothing ever happened.

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True. The maga movement is because of, and only for Trump. Once he's gone who knows what will happen to their political and voting enthusiasm.

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His son. MAGA is a populist movement of low-information low-education white folks.

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His son will not get the maga who aren't the low-information low-education voters anywhere near what Trump is getting. They'll stick to him for a while, like many did with Palin when that election was lost, but it will fade, like with Palin.

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It's so funny seeing this long exchange between leftist Biden voters (Rapier excluded) who think they have the finger on the pulse of conservatives.

I'm no fan of Trump but he's infinitely preferable to the leftist scum that you all vote for.

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Ah yes. If you're not for Trump, you're leftist scum Biden supporters...

But, please vote for him in the general or else.

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Slow down and read what I wrote again please. I was, in fact, addressing Biden voters.

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I read it. I have posted on this thread and my name is not Rapier.

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I don't when his time will come but Vivek will be hard to resist in the near future. He isn't just a great talker. He's a hard working dude and he's laying down a foundation.

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Maybe but everything about him is talking. That works one time. He can't just spend the next 4/8 years campaigning. He has to get a job in government if he wants to be taken seriously by ideally running for something but at least serving. Then he starts to build a record and has to show how he can translate that idealism into results. That's the really, really hard part and why DeSantis is so far superior.

If I want a captain of the debate club I'd love to pick between Vivek and Cruz. If I want someone who can actually get stuff done DeSantis is the obvious choice.

BTW, I would love for Vivek to get some experience, learn some things, and be a part of the solution for the next few decades. We need smart young conservative leaders.

Another path is to go the Ron/Rand Paul route where they got in office and run for President every so often. They never actually get anything done but they get you fired up and say the right things. They will always have dedicated followers because of their idealism.

To be clear I wasn't referring to the entire thread, just that exchange I quoted.

Vivek doesn't yet have the whole package. He doesn't have the structure behind him or the experience.
To be an outsider, a serious threat to the status quo, you have to deal with the DOJ, election fraud, and the entire media. You have to deal with a global conspiracy to take over the world, that surprise, can start a pandemic to stop you. You need generals behind you, parts of the military. You need an entire alternative media-structure of your own.

like governor DeSantis has inspired

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I'm really not sure what Vivek's angle was supposed to be. MAGA can only have one dear leader. Even if they liked him, he was never going to out-Trump Trump. Unless he was swinging for a VP position, I can't figure out what he thought he was playing at. Maybe rolling the dice that trump would die before the election and that he'd be next in line?

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A lot of people will be trying to position to take over the MAGA grift once Trump is dead and Vivek is one of them.

The inevitable MAGA civil war will be a hoot to watch.

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Time to start stocking up on the popcorn. It's gonna be one hell of a show.

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But MAGA don't like trump because he's MAGA. They love trump because he's trump. I don't think they could just plug-and-play a new dear leader and keep moving down the road like nothing ever happened.

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True. The maga movement is because of, and only for Trump. Once he's gone who knows what will happen to their political and voting enthusiasm.

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His son. MAGA is a populist movement of low-information low-education white folks.

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His son will not get the maga who aren't the low-information low-education voters anywhere near what Trump is getting. They'll stick to him for a while, like many did with Palin when that election was lost, but it will fade, like with Palin.

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It's so funny seeing this long exchange between leftist Biden voters (Rapier excluded) who think they have the finger on the pulse of conservatives.

I'm no fan of Trump but he's infinitely preferable to the leftist scum that you all vote for.

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Was noting this as well. Even on a thread strictly about Republicans, Mapelthorpe can show up and demonstrate how useless he is in a political conversation.

MAGA has nothing to do with low information voters. I was MAGA before I wasn't. It wasn't because I obtained more information I didn't previously have. I changed when MAGA became less about America and more about Trump himself.

The folks still with MAGA don't yet realize the two aren't the same.

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There are some low-information low-education ignorant hateful bigots out there who are brainwashed to think people who want a government to put Americans first - ahead of globalist, foreign, and elitist special interests and ahead of their own greed and corruption - can only be "low-information low-education white folk"

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If you want to tighten a screw, and you insist on using a sledgehammer to do it, it doesn't matter what you want it to do, you're still a low information handyman. Same thing applies here

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Going to be funny when MAGA gets 60M votes this time around and can't figure out why.

The Trump movement has excommunicated the old guard Republicans. They lumped the New England Republicans and more vanilla Republicans like Haley and Pence in with the swamp. Then the DeSantis conservatives. Now the Vivek crowd. The tent continues to shrink.

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Theyll do better than that. They'll get their fare share of nose holders. So trump has a chance despite who he is, not because of who he is.

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Just don't see it. The 24 election will have a lower turnout that 20 unless there is a COVID type event in the next 9 months. Probably 10-15% lower turnout without all the mail in stuff.

Trump got 63 million in 2016 when he was running again Hiliary and was 70 years old. And was an unknown commodity that could run as an "outsider" and businessman.

Now he is 78. The Republican Party is split into 3 or more groups that all hate each other. I think so many people are so depressed it is Trump v Biden that they'll sit out entirely. Zero excitement from most people I speak with.

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I'm really not sure what Vivek's angle was supposed to be. MAGA can only have one dear leader. Even if they liked him, he was never going to out-Trump Trump. Unless he was swinging for a VP position, I can't figure out what he thought he was playing at. Maybe rolling the dice that trump would die before the election and that he'd be next in line?

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A lot of people will be trying to position to take over the MAGA grift once Trump is dead and Vivek is one of them.

The inevitable MAGA civil war will be a hoot to watch.

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Time to start stocking up on the popcorn. It's gonna be one hell of a show.

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But MAGA don't like trump because he's MAGA. They love trump because he's trump. I don't think they could just plug-and-play a new dear leader and keep moving down the road like nothing ever happened.

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True. The maga movement is because of, and only for Trump. Once he's gone who knows what will happen to their political and voting enthusiasm.

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His son. MAGA is a populist movement of low-information low-education white folks.

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His son will not get the maga who aren't the low-information low-education voters anywhere near what Trump is getting. They'll stick to him for a while, like many did with Palin when that election was lost, but it will fade, like with Palin.

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It's so funny seeing this long exchange between leftist Biden voters (Rapier excluded) who think they have the finger on the pulse of conservatives.

I'm no fan of Trump but he's infinitely preferable to the leftist scum that you all vote for.

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If you think I am a "Leftist Biden voter" you need your head examined.

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Guys.

He was referring to the exchange between Shifty and No Spin.

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Going to be funny when MAGA gets 60M votes this time around and can't figure out why.

The Trump movement has excommunicated the old guard Republicans. They lumped the New England Republicans and more vanilla Republicans like Haley and Pence in with the swamp. Then the DeSantis conservatives. Now the Vivek crowd. The tent continues to shrink.

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This f'n kills me man. We can't survive without a big and growing tent.

Anyone that is essentially 75% in agreement with you should be considered your ally. You work with, support them, and try to bring them over to a more conservative perspective. What you don't do is sh** on them.

/bangs head on wall

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His son. MAGA is a populist movement of low-information low-education white folks.

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Somebody loves to generalize. Not surprising.

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oh no said:

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There are some low-information low-education ignorant hateful bigots out there who are brainwashed to think people who want a government to put Americans first - ahead of globalist, foreign, and elitist special interests and ahead of their own greed and corruption - can only be "low-information low-education white folk"

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If you want to tighten a screw, and you insist on using a sledgehammer to do it, it doesn't matter what you want it to do, you're still a low information handyman. Same thing applies here

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So?
I'd rather be considered a MAGA proponent than a MAP proponent. What do you pick?

Unfortunately, the term MAGA is used to slander all Republicans and in reality its use by critics reveals the low information mentality of the critics.

LOL. The OP is silly. They are running against each other. "Don't vote for the other guy" isn't throwing anyone anywhere

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There are some low-information low-education ignorant hateful bigots out there who are brainwashed to think people who want a government to put Americans first - ahead of globalist, foreign, and elitist special interests and ahead of their own greed and corruption - can only be "low-information low-education white folk"

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If you want to tighten a screw, and you insist on using a sledgehammer to do it, it doesn't matter what you want it to do, you're still a low information handyman. Same thing applies here

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So?
I'd rather be considered a MAGA proponent than a MAP proponent. What do you pick?

Unfortunately, the term MAGA is used to slander all Republicans and in reality its use by critics reveals the low information mentality of the critics.

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MAGA doesn't mean what it used to. MAGA, based on a majority of those who make the most noise, is Trump over anything else.

Just like at one point "drinking the koolaid" use to mean enjoying a sweet beverage. Being "gay" used to mean you were just happy. And now MAGA is just worshiping at the alter of Trump.

I disagree with your assessment.

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I disagree with your assessment.

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You can pretend that they aren't tied together, but its had a hostile takeover. When it became obvious that the movement was not about principles, but only about what was best for Trump, that is when I decided that I could never cast a vote for him again. It's a toxic relationship and we can't have any actual solutions until he is out of the picture.

I'm not saying he isn't being persecuted by the left, but he needs to be dropped out of political influence (the right way)

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Going to be funny when MAGA gets 60M votes this time around and can't figure out why.

The Trump movement has excommunicated the old guard Republicans. They lumped the New England Republicans and more vanilla Republicans like Haley and Pence in with the swamp. Then the DeSantis conservatives. Now the Vivek crowd. The tent continues to shrink.

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Theyll do better than that. They'll get their fare share of nose holders. So trump has a chance despite who he is, not because of who he is.

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Just don't see it. The 24 election will have a lower turnout that 20 unless there is a COVID type event in the next 9 months. Probably 10-15% lower turnout without all the mail in stuff.

Trump got 63 million in 2016 when he was running again Hiliary and was 70 years old. And was an unknown commodity that could run as an "outsider" and businessman.

Now he is 78. The Republican Party is split into 3 or more groups that all hate each other. I think so many people are so depressed it is Trump v Biden that they'll sit out entirely. Zero excitement from most people I speak with.

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The Dems will turn out huge because they have the machinery in place to make that automatic. That's why you don't see Biden even pretending to campaign. Actually the less they campaign the better for them.

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I'm really not sure what Vivek's angle was supposed to be. MAGA can only have one dear leader. Even if they liked him, he was never going to out-Trump Trump. Unless he was swinging for a VP position, I can't figure out what he thought he was playing at. Maybe rolling the dice that trump would die before the election and that he'd be next in line?

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A lot of people will be trying to position to take over the MAGA grift once Trump is dead and Vivek is one of them.

The inevitable MAGA civil war will be a hoot to watch.

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Time to start stocking up on the popcorn. It's gonna be one hell of a show.

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But MAGA don't like trump because he's MAGA. They love trump because he's trump. I don't think they could just plug-and-play a new dear leader and keep moving down the road like nothing ever happened.

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True. The maga movement is because of, and only for Trump. Once he's gone who knows what will happen to their political and voting enthusiasm.

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His son. MAGA is a populist movement of low-information low-education white folks.

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His son will not get the maga who aren't the low-information low-education voters anywhere near what Trump is getting. They'll stick to him for a while, like many did with Palin when that election was lost, but it will fade, like with Palin.

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It's so funny seeing this long exchange between leftist Biden voters (Rapier excluded) who think they have the finger on the pulse of conservatives.

I'm no fan of Trump but he's infinitely preferable to the leftist scum that you all vote for.

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If you think I am a "Leftist Biden voter" you need your head examined.

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Guys.

He was referring to the exchange between Shifty and No Spin.

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I'm not sure how they missed that. He even said "this long exchange"

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Trump demands nothing less than 100% total sycophantic support. Anything less, and well, you see what happens to Vivek.

Not as if any of this should be a surprise to anyone who's paid attention to Trump and anyone that didn't strike his ego 24/7.

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I think you are absolutely correct. 100% or GTFO with Trump. Vivek was at 90%. Not good enough.

Now what will he do next?

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I'm really not sure what Vivek's angle was supposed to be. MAGA can only have one dear leader. Even if they liked him, he was never going to out-Trump Trump. Unless he was swinging for a VP position, I can't figure out what he thought he was playing at. Maybe rolling the dice that trump would die before the election and that he'd be next in line?

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I think he was hoping to get a VP job. IF that is true, what else should he have done?

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You "conservatives" who continue to bash every republican who isn't your exact definition of what a candidate should be sure are useful.

To the other side.

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Does that apply to Trump too? Because he's spent pretty much all of the last two years bashing actual conservatives, and a lot more people see what he says than a few random message board posters.

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Yes and your whataboutism is noted

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The dick measuring contest on this forum has gotten stale. Who cares what any of the candidates say? If it's Trump vs Biden I'm voting Trump. If it's DeSantis vs Biden I'm voting DeSantis. If it's Vivek vs Biden I'm voting Vivek.

Let's just let the dust settle and pull the lever for the R in November no matter who it is.

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#metoo

Anyone in this race probably needed something crazy and/or tragic to happen to Trump anyway. Nikki is getting big donor uniparty war mongering support, maybe expecting to be a convention choice as the 2nd place finisher if the tragic event happens. Ramaswamy was trying to be careful and strategic so as not to draw Trump's ire yet still state a case for himself and get the maga support if the regime finally got trump out of the picture. But now it's the eve of Iowa, with NH and SC and Super Tuesday to follow, and Vivek was scrambling for a desperate surge to second place.

I don't know why people are making a "loyalty" issue out of this though. Trump has turned against many former supporters, staffers, attorneys who he feels have turned on him, but in this case, Vivek is an opponent running against him. Why should he be "loyal" to an opponent on the eve of Iowa caucus?

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I'm really not sure what Vivek's angle was supposed to be. MAGA can only have one dear leader. Even if they liked him, he was never going to out-Trump Trump. Unless he was swinging for a VP position, I can't figure out what he thought he was playing at. Maybe rolling the dice that trump would die before the election and that he'd be next in line?

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A lot of people will be trying to position to take over the MAGA grift once Trump is dead and Vivek is one of them.

The inevitable MAGA civil war will be a hoot to watch.

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Time to start stocking up on the popcorn. It's gonna be one hell of a show.

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But MAGA don't like trump because he's MAGA. They love trump because he's trump. I don't think they could just plug-and-play a new dear leader and keep moving down the road like nothing ever happened.

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True. The maga movement is because of, and only for Trump. Once he's gone who knows what will happen to their political and voting enthusiasm.

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His son. MAGA is a populist movement of low-information low-education white folks.

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His son will not get the maga who aren't the low-information low-education voters anywhere near what Trump is getting. They'll stick to him for a while, like many did with Palin when that election was lost, but it will fade, like with Palin.

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It's so funny seeing this long exchange between leftist Biden voters (Rapier excluded) who think they have the finger on the pulse of conservatives.

I'm no fan of Trump but he's infinitely preferable to the leftist scum that you all vote for.

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If you think I am a "Leftist Biden voter" you need your head examined.

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Guys.

He was referring to the exchange between Shifty and No Spin.

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Well, No Spin has said he'd vote for DeSantis, so....

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zoneag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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I'm really not sure what Vivek's angle was supposed to be. MAGA can only have one dear leader. Even if they liked him, he was never going to out-Trump Trump. Unless he was swinging for a VP position, I can't figure out what he thought he was playing at. Maybe rolling the dice that trump would die before the election and that he'd be next in line?

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A lot of people will be trying to position to take over the MAGA grift once Trump is dead and Vivek is one of them.

The inevitable MAGA civil war will be a hoot to watch.

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Time to start stocking up on the popcorn. It's gonna be one hell of a show.

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But MAGA don't like trump because he's MAGA. They love trump because he's trump. I don't think they could just plug-and-play a new dear leader and keep moving down the road like nothing ever happened.

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True. The maga movement is because of, and only for Trump. Once he's gone who knows what will happen to their political and voting enthusiasm.

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His son. MAGA is a populist movement of low-information low-education white folks.

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His son will not get the maga who aren't the low-information low-education voters anywhere near what Trump is getting. They'll stick to him for a while, like many did with Palin when that election was lost, but it will fade, like with Palin.

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It's so funny seeing this long exchange between leftist Biden voters (Rapier excluded) who think they have the finger on the pulse of conservatives.

I'm no fan of Trump but he's infinitely preferable to the leftist scum that you all vote for.

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If you think I am a "Leftist Biden voter" you need your head examined.

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Guys.

He was referring to the exchange between Shifty and No Spin.

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I'm not sure how they missed that. He even said "this long exchange"

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I had posts in the middle of that exchange and he called out Rapier by name. Where the exchange and the overall thread mix began and ended was the problem with the comment. If he has an issue with those 2 posters talk about those posters and don't have a vague statement. That was the point. I get called a lot of names on this site, I just like to make sure I earn them when I do.

He said "rapier excluded " though.

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You "conservatives" who continue to bash every republican who isn't your exact definition of what a candidate should be sure are useful.

To the other side.

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Does that apply to Trump too? Because he's spent pretty much all of the last two years bashing actual conservatives, and a lot more people see what he says than a few random message board posters.

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Yes and your whataboutism is noted

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Great, I look forward to your criticism of Trump the next time he insults other conservatives for the 10,000th time. Would hate for you to hold random message board posters to a higher standard than the apparent leader of the party.

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He said "rapier excluded " though.

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Sure, but the point is it was a vague statement without a definitive beginning and end to where the "exchange" began. I understand he said Rapier excluded but he didn't say anyone else. It's really not a big deal it was just too vague. There are folks who think if you aren't all in for Trump you must be a Biden voter. People have certainly said I am supporting Biden by not supporting Trump even though I have said I will vote for the R whomever it is in the General about 100 times.

It's really not a big deal and maybe I'm too sensitive, I just don't like any confusion that I might vote for Commies.

He literally quoted the exchange he was talking about though.

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I disagree with your assessment.

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You can pretend that they aren't tied together, but its had a hostile takeover. When it became obvious that the movement was not about principles, but only about what was best for Trump, that is when I decided that I could never cast a vote for him again. It's a toxic relationship and we can't have any actual solutions until he is out of the picture.

I'm not saying he isn't being persecuted by the left, but he needs to be dropped out of political influence (the right way)

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No pretend. Trump is a horrible communicator and bullies his way through life. I understand that.

Sometimes it's best to zip your lip and let the cards fall (Trump stumble all over himself) where they may. No need for the friendly fire.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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cevans_40 said:

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You "conservatives" who continue to bash every republican who isn't your exact definition of what a candidate should be sure are useful.

To the other side.

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Does that apply to Trump too? Because he's spent pretty much all of the last two years bashing actual conservatives, and a lot more people see what he says than a few random message board posters.

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Yes and your whataboutism is noted

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Great, I look forward to your criticism of Trump the next time he insults other conservatives for the 10,000th time. Would hate for you to hold random message board posters to a higher standard than the apparent leader of the party.

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So you do this every time DeSantis criticizes his primary opponents?

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Going to be funny when MAGA gets 60M votes this time around and can't figure out why.

The Trump movement has excommunicated the old guard Republicans. They lumped the New England Republicans and more vanilla Republicans like Haley and Pence in with the swamp. Then the DeSantis conservatives. Now the Vivek crowd. The tent continues to shrink.

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Theyll do better than that. They'll get their fare share of nose holders. So trump has a chance despite who he is, not because of who he is.

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Just don't see it. The 24 election will have a lower turnout that 20 unless there is a COVID type event in the next 9 months. Probably 10-15% lower turnout without all the mail in stuff.

Trump got 63 million in 2016 when he was running again Hiliary and was 70 years old. And was an unknown commodity that could run as an "outsider" and businessman.

Now he is 78. The Republican Party is split into 3 or more groups that all hate each other. I think so many people are so depressed it is Trump v Biden that they'll sit out entirely. Zero excitement from most people I speak with.

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The Dems will turn out huge because they have the machinery in place to make that automatic. That's why you don't see Biden even pretending to campaign. Actually the less they campaign the better for them.

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You left out that Trump got 74,000,000 in 2020. Biden got 81,000,000. Mass mail in votes from Urban swing states, questionable by many.

Trump vs Biden

Did you know the day Trump is sworn in as the 47 President, he will be
70 years 7 months 7 days old.

777

Read that somewhere and not sure it means anything.

His plan is to drill, drill, drill.

I made a small fortune in oil and gas. Will be great for the state of Texas. That is all I care about. If Abbott is the VP, I will stand in line, and if they pull a fast one like they did in 2020, maybe Abbott repays the favor?

Let's see how this plays out and see how excited you are come July.

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Trump is 77 now and will be 78 in June on his Birthday months before the election. Your math is a bit off.

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cevans_40 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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cevans_40 said:

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You "conservatives" who continue to bash every republican who isn't your exact definition of what a candidate should be sure are useful.

To the other side.

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Does that apply to Trump too? Because he's spent pretty much all of the last two years bashing actual conservatives, and a lot more people see what he says than a few random message board posters.

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Yes and your whataboutism is noted

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Great, I look forward to your criticism of Trump the next time he insults other conservatives for the 10,000th time. Would hate for you to hold random message board posters to a higher standard than the apparent leader of the party.

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So you do this every time DeSantis criticizes his primary opponents?

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When has DeSantis personally insulted any of the opponents? Policies (especially because in most cases DeSantis is criticizing them for not being conservative enough), electability, etc are usually fine. What Trump does is a world apart from any other candidate.

Just take a look at this from his official campaign spokersperson. Strange I didn't see you criticizing this as attacking conservatives:

Ron DeSantis has a future as a 'pizza delivery driver' since he won't be able to work in politics 'ever again' pic.twitter.com/x7Cj3TUq9k

— Steven Cheung (@TheStevenCheung) December 21, 2023

Ron DeSantis is so broke he needs to sell his balls to strangers in order make rent and keep the lights on. https://t.co/uvZOymTveS

— Steven Cheung (@TheStevenCheung) November 3, 2023

Ron DeSantis is cucking himself in front of the entire country. pic.twitter.com/RnRyaJJlKv

— Steven Cheung (@TheStevenCheung) September 30, 2023

Thankfully we only have about 10 more months to have to deal with moronic bs like this and then Trump and his band of idiots will be gone from politics forever.

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cevans_40 said:

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You "conservatives" who continue to bash every republican who isn't your exact definition of what a candidate should be sure are useful.

To the other side.

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Does that apply to Trump too? Because he's spent pretty much all of the last two years bashing actual conservatives, and a lot more people see what he says than a few random message board posters.

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Yes and your whataboutism is noted

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Great, I look forward to your criticism of Trump the next time he insults other conservatives for the 10,000th time. Would hate for you to hold random message board posters to a higher standard than the apparent leader of the party.

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So you do this every time DeSantis criticizes his primary opponents?

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Criticize != Insult