Anyone who puts stock in any polls this far out from election day, regardless of what they say, is just folly.

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and one of the million issues that Trumpers conveniently forget is this-

the campaign against Trump HAS NOT EVEN STARTED YET

there will be 800 million dollars just waiting until he is the nominee- and most big time GOP donors can't stand Trump.

he will be outspent 800 million to 200 million.

he is going to get thrashed with every single insane post he has ever made.

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Same thing will happen to desantis, or any other candidate.

Why wouldn't it?

People from Hollywood, to the democrat party liked Trump before 2015.

Did you miss how many people took the bait on all the lies about Trump? Have you not witnessed how society was engineered to dislike him?

The reason I don't jump on the hate Trump/tds band wagon, is that I believe those who have, have been influenced or manipulated. I don't like being manipulated.

LMCane said:

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and one of the million issues that Trumpers conveniently forget is this-

the campaign against Trump HAS NOT EVEN STARTED YET

there will be 800 million dollars just waiting until he is the nominee- and most big time GOP donors can't stand Trump.

he will be outspent 800 million to 200 million.

he is going to get thrashed with every single insane post he has ever made.

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The campaign against him has never stopped.

🚨 BREAKING: The leftist media continue to interfere in the 2024 election.https://t.co/CyeBroOjr8

— NewsBusters (@newsbusters) January 11, 2024

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Something tells me that Trump never actually led. Just a hunch.

I can see the Trumpers wide eyes as they start to realize that they've had the rug pulled out from under them. The only state Trump has a prayer of flipping back is GA, and that probably won't happen either. The majority of Americans like having a vegetable that they never hear about over Trump and all the entails.

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Pennsylvania countryside is All in on Trump.
Philly counts the votes

LMCane said:

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and one of the million issues that Trumpers conveniently forget is this-

the campaign against Trump HAS NOT EVEN STARTED YET

there will be 800 million dollars just waiting until he is the nominee- and most big time GOP donors can't stand Trump.

he will be outspent 800 million to 200 million.

he is going to get thrashed with every single insane post he has ever made.

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And thanks to Trump's seemingly constant posting, there's going to be tons of his own words to use against him.

Biden's team is going to have the same level of difficulty reminding people why to vote against Trump as they did in the last election - little to none.

They must've started polling mail in ballots.

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Quinnipiac University poll in Pennsylvania

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This tells me all I need to know about accuracy of this poll. I give it at least +- 10%

Trump lives in the OPs head

Polls don't matter. Every damn one of them is different. May as well just give opinions because they're all useless.

Why even have a conversation with someone who thinks this guy is a capable and competent president?

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LMCane said:

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It's hard to keep up- for Trumpers is this week "We love polls"

or this week is "polls in 2016 election are fake!! and are not to be believed!!"

or this week is "Polls in 2020 showing Biden demolishing Trump are fake polls!!"

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But it's getting easier to keep up with you Biden supporters.

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What Biden supporters? Can you clarify what yo mean here?

We back DeSantis because he is the best weapon to roll back the damage the worst president in the last 150 years has created.

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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Polls don't matter. Every damn one of them is different. May as well just give opinions because they're all useless.

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Yep might as well to count the votes and post the results. Never thought I'd live in a world were polls matter more than the results-- or where they used polls as a psyops weapon to GET desired results.

ttu_85 said:

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Rockdoc said:

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LMCane said:

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It's hard to keep up- for Trumpers is this week "We love polls"

or this week is "polls in 2016 election are fake!! and are not to be believed!!"

or this week is "Polls in 2020 showing Biden demolishing Trump are fake polls!!"

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But it's getting easier to keep up with you Biden supporters.

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What Biden supporters? Can you clarify what yo mean here?

We back DeSantis because he is the best weapon to roll back the damage the worst president in the last 150 years has created.

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Wasn't talking about you dude. I'm a DeSantis supporter too.

LMCane said:

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In the key swing state of Pennsylvania, President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump remain in a too-close-to-call hypothetical 2024 general election matchup with 49 percent of registered voters supporting Biden and 46 percent supporting Trump, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University poll of registered voters in Pennsylvania released today.

This marks the first time in Pennsylvania that Biden has a numerical advantage over Trump in the 2024 presidential race.

In October, a Quinnipiac University poll in Pennsylvania showed Trump with 47 percent support and Biden with 45 percent support. In June, Trump received 47 percent support and Biden received 46 percent support.
In today's poll, Democrats back Biden 96 - 4 percent and Republicans back Trump 89 - 7 percent. Independents are divided, with 45 percent supporting Trump and 44 percent supporting Biden.

Trumpers who love them some polls!

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So they just polled the dead and those who moved out!

LMCane said:

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It's hard to keep up- for Trumpers is this week "We love polls"

or this week is "polls in 2016 election are fake!! and are not to be believed!!"

or this week is "Polls in 2020 showing Biden demolishing Trump are fake polls!!"

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Who is paying you to post here?

OP needs to step away from the internet for awhile...

The Swamp ain't letting Trump spend another second in the White House. Probably the exact same with DeSantis, too, if we are honest. Haley is establishment enough and a female, so she'd be allowed. But that's even debatable.

As long as Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Nevada are allowed to mail-in ballots, harvest ballots, and have complete shutdowns of certain precincts around their blue cities to manipulate votes, we aren't ever going to see a Republican win again in those states, which means a Dem President for the foreseeable future.

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The Swamp ain't letting Trump spend another second in the White House. Probably the exact same with DeSantis, too, if we are honest. Haley is establishment enough and a female, so she'd be allowed. But that's even debatable.

As long as Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Nevada are allowed to mail-in ballots, harvest ballots, and have complete shutdowns of certain precincts around their blue cities to manipulate votes, we aren't ever going to see a Republican win again in those states, which means a Dem President for the foreseeable future.

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This is correct. Everything else beyond this is a sideshow.

There's a lot of morons in Pennsylvania. You have to be completely brain dead at this point to vote for Biden under any circumstances.

I have zero faith in any polls for now. Let's see how the first few primaries go and we will see if they are legit or not.

LMCane said:

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In the key swing state of Pennsylvania, President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump remain in a too-close-to-call hypothetical 2024 general election matchup with 49 percent of registered voters supporting Biden and 46 percent supporting Trump, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University poll of registered voters in Pennsylvania released today.

This marks the first time in Pennsylvania that Biden has a numerical advantage over Trump in the 2024 presidential race.

In October, a Quinnipiac University poll in Pennsylvania showed Trump with 47 percent support and Biden with 45 percent support. In June, Trump received 47 percent support and Biden received 46 percent support.
In today's poll, Democrats back Biden 96 - 4 percent and Republicans back Trump 89 - 7 percent. Independents are divided, with 45 percent supporting Trump and 44 percent supporting Biden.

Trumpers who love them some polls!

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It's all over!

Not buying any of the polls, but this board constantly under estimates the never trump numbers in this country.

Ags77 said:

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Not buying any of the polls, but this board constantly under estimates the never trump numbers in this country.

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Yes a board that is largely all-in on DeSantis under-estimates the never-trumpers. Reality is they are way overrepresented on this forum.

Just for fun here are the betting odds.
Trump: -357
Haley: +600
DeSantis +2600

For refence Biden's odds to be the Democrat Nominee: -257.

Trump has a better shot than Biden to be his party's presidential nominee. Yeah this race is over.

Winning the presidency odds
Trump: +125
Biden: +225
Haley:+1000
DeSantis:+6900

misterguinness said:

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Polls? Ya right....nobody is being asked a damn thing. These numbers are all made up.

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Polls are only real if they show Trump winning.

I'll never trust polls again. I'll never trust media again.

LMCane said:

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Rockdoc said:

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LMCane said:

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It's hard to keep up- for Trumpers is this week "We love polls"

or this week is "polls in 2016 election are fake!! and are not to be believed!!"

or this week is "Polls in 2020 showing Biden demolishing Trump are fake polls!!"

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But it's getting easier to keep up with you Biden supporters.

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LMAO what a shock that the Trumpers only defense for their own inanity is to claim DESANTIS supporters really are Biden supporters.

again, what a surprise!

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Dude what is wrong with you? You think Biden should be leading the most powerful country in the world? If so, you have no clue about the impact of having Biden in the White House. I don't know Trump personally but he is a much better leader than Biden. I have lived around the world and people fear Trump. They laugh at Biden. Anyone that can assess the impact Biden is having on this country and still vote for him should absolutely be embarrassed.

stallion6 said:

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LMCane said:

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Rockdoc said:

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LMCane said:

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It's hard to keep up- for Trumpers is this week "We love polls"

or this week is "polls in 2016 election are fake!! and are not to be believed!!"

or this week is "Polls in 2020 showing Biden demolishing Trump are fake polls!!"

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But it's getting easier to keep up with you Biden supporters.

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LMAO what a shock that the Trumpers only defense for their own inanity is to claim DESANTIS supporters really are Biden supporters.

again, what a surprise!

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Dude what is wrong with you? You think Biden should be leading the most powerful country in the world? If so, you have no clue about the impact of having Biden in the White House. I don't know Trump personally but he is a much better leader than Biden. I have lived around the world and people fear Trump. They laugh at Biden. Anyone that can assess the impact Biden is having on this country and still vote for him should absolutely be embarrassed.

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Your post is dead on. The only thing democrats love is power and money. They have no interest in leadership and protecting the country.

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Phatbob said:

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Biden is as incompetent and corrupt as any President we've had, but he's also never said "after that, I won't be a dictator". That might scare people off.

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That's because most people don't understand context of which Trump's statement was clearly taken out of context. I grant you because of the general stupidity and lack of attention span of the public you can't really talk in jest or play off the words of other statements like Trump did and not have 65% of the country get the vapors. Unless you are a Democrat of course and then you can say whatever you want.

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It gets quite tiring that every time Trump says something now it requires numerous people to translate "what he really meant".

I'd like to have someone where that wasn't necessary...

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sam callahan said:

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We are in the fast track to finding out what happens when the populace lacks critical thinking skills.

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we already know what happens. we get movements like maga.

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Houston Lee said:

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Polls dont matter. We all know the deep state candidate of choice will "win" the election for President.

I don't believe for 1 second that Trump will win the election no matter how many polls indicate he has a lead or not.

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Built in excuse activated...

Old McDonald said:

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sam callahan said:

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We are in the fast track to finding out what happens when the populace lacks critical thinking skills.

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we already know what happens. we get movements like maga.

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We get Democrat majorities because stupid people belive propaganda that would be easily dismissed with even the slightest scrutiny or critical thinking applied. Anyone that votes for lying Democrats or supports their idiotic policy positions has zero room to talk about critical thinking.

aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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sam callahan said:

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We are in the fast track to finding out what happens when the populace lacks critical thinking skills.

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we already know what happens. we get movements like maga.

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We get Democrat majorities because stupid people belive propaganda that would be easily dismissed with even the slightest scrutiny or critical thinking applied. Anyone that votes for lying Democrats or supports their idiotic policy positions has zero room to talk about critical thinking.

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The big question is how many of our TDS friends on here will end up voting dem. All they do is rail on Trump because they're ashamed to say they're dems.

Lol

Op gets owned on every single thread he makes

aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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sam callahan said:

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We are in the fast track to finding out what happens when the populace lacks critical thinking skills.

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we already know what happens. we get movements like maga.

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We get Democrat majorities because stupid people belive propaganda that would be easily dismissed with even the slightest scrutiny or critical thinking applied. Anyone that votes for lying Democrats or supports their idiotic policy positions has zero room to talk about critical thinking.

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Are we talking about lifelong, and current, dem/lib Trump?