BREAKING: Maricopa County, Arizona General Election 2022 (Part 1)

Documents reveal that the Pre L&A Testing and the Post L&A Testing HAVE DIFFERENT DATABASES. A VARIANCE OF 45,483 REGISTERED VOTERS.

Screenshot 1: PRE L&A Testing

Registered Voters: 2,480,880

Screenshot 2:… pic.twitter.com/bLnC0JEtic

— DogAndBone @Curious Cat (@Curiousityfirst) December 22, 2023

More fake info right Eric?

Been saying that for years.

Get Runbeck out of election.

"Nothing to see here! Move along!"

What does this mean?

Hungry Ojos said:

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What does this mean?

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jt2hunt said:

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BREAKING: Maricopa County, Arizona General Election 2022 (Part 1)

Documents reveal that the Pre L&A Testing and the Post L&A Testing HAVE DIFFERENT DATABASES. A VARIANCE OF 45,483 REGISTERED VOTERS.

Screenshot 1: PRE L&A Testing

Registered Voters: 2,480,880

Screenshot 2:… pic.twitter.com/bLnC0JEtic

— DogAndBone @Curious Cat (@Curiousityfirst) December 22, 2023

More fake info right Eric?

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When testing the logic and accuracy of the equipment, I would not presume that the data used in testing is at all complete or accurate. I can imagine cases in which one might test logic with a variety of different data sets.

Can you provide any links to the actual documentation about the tests that show exactly what is being tested and whether the tests require the use of the actual databases?

Or do you just want to assume that this means whatever you want it to mean?

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81,000,000
Right all you buried head in the sand crowd.

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81,000,000 votes from Arizona?

I don't think so.

From the pdf linked at https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362386239_Logic_and_Accuracy_Testing_A_Fifty-State_Review/link/62e768423c0ea87887724e69/download?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19

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The vast majority of votes in the United States are counted mechanically, either by optical scanners that read paper ballots or by direct-recording electronic (DRE) voting machines [70]. To validate that these tabulation devices are configured and functioning correctly, jurisdictions perform a procedure called "logic and accuracy testing" ("L&A testing") shortly before each election. It typically involves casting a "test deck"a set of ballots with known voteson each machine, then printing the results and ensuring the tally is as expected. Any deviation is a potential indicator that the election equipment has misbehaved.

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Yep. The test data does not involve the actual results of the election.

Maybe cuz he's a loser

From https://www.cartercenter.org/news/features/blogs/2022/explaining-logic-and-accuracy-testing-in-arizona-midterm-recount.html

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Q: Did Political Party Observers Take Part in Logic and Accuracy Testing for the Recounts?

Political party observers from both the Democratic and Republican parties were present and actively took part in testing verifying zero reports and confirming that the results of the summary report matched the expected test results in nearly all counties. No political party observers were present in Greenlee County, where a bipartisan team of election workers instead verified zero reports and confirmed the test results. In Pinal County, no political party observers from the Republican Party were present; a member of the county elections staff stood in for the party during the verification of zero reports and test results. The Libertarian Party's county chairperson participated in testing in Yuma County; The Carter Center did not note the presence of Libertarian Party observers in any other counties.

Q: Did Any of the Appointed Political Party Observers Object to the Conduct of the Logic and Accuracy Testing?

The Carter Center is unaware of any formal challenges or objections raised to the conduct of the testing process by any of the political party observers present. However, in Navajo County, party observers present raised a concern that only a sample of the tabulation equipment to be used for the recount was tested. State election officials explained that the primary purpose of the test is to assess the accuracy of the new program that has been loaded onto the tabulators for the recount. It was unnecessary, therefore, to test every single tabulator as the same program had been loaded onto every machine. The hand-count audit following the recount serves as an additional check on the accuracy of the tabulators.

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It looks to me like OP is trying to create controversy where no controversy exists.

I would, however, expect them to run at least some testing on every individual machine to make sure that machine works correctly.

Apparently, in Georgia they are supposed to test each machine.

From https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/eac_assets/1/28/Logic_and_Accuracy_Testing_Manual_Final_v1.4.pdf

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The primary purpose of performing Logic and Accuracy testing on Elections equipment
is to ensure all equipment used in an Election is in good working condition and functions
as expected for displaying, collecting votes and tabulating results.

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FJB stole an election but that's only things for conspiracy theorists. The right is the biggest threat

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FJB stole an election but that's only things for conspiracy theorists. The right is the biggest threat

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The biggest threat is radicals regardless of whether they are from the far left or the far right.

We need more Conservatism in this country, not radicals who want to rip it to shreds.

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TAMUallen said:

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FJB stole an election but that's only things for conspiracy theorists. The right is the biggest threat

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The biggest threat is radicals regardless of whether they are from the far left or the far right.

We need more Conservatism in this country, not radicals who want to rip it to shreds.

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Your party isn't at question? ****

Back to the discussion, instead of the derailments, I don't know what they are testing for, but here are what I would expect:

1) A ballot for each combination of votes to make sure that they are counted correctly. This would not only include a vote in each race, but what happens if someone votes for two or more candidates in the same race. For example, to make sure that they count correctly if someone voted for BIden and Trump.

2) If the ballots are the type with the ovals that you fill in, you should probably test various levels of fill to make sure that they are counted correctly. For example, you might have en oval completely filled in, with 'X' or a line through it, with less than complete fill, and with different types of votes.

3) You should probably also have ballots with marks outside of the boxes to make sure those aren't counted as votes.

I wonder what else they might have been testing.

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Back to the discussion, instead of the derailments, I don't know what they are testing for, but here are what I would expect:

1) A ballot for each combination of votes to make sure that they are counted correctly. This would not only include a vote in each race, but what happens if someone votes for two or more candidates in the same race. For example, to make sure that they count correctly if someone voted for BIden and Trump.

2) If the ballots are the type with the ovals that you fill in, you should probably test various levels of fill to make sure that they are counted correctly. For example, you might have en oval completely filled in, with 'X' or a line through it, with less than complete fill, and with different types of votes.

3) You should probably also have ballots with marks outside of the boxes to make sure those aren't counted as votes.

I wonder what else they might have been testing.

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You don't read much.

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eric76 said:

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Back to the discussion, instead of the derailments, I don't know what they are testing for, but here are what I would expect:

1) A ballot for each combination of votes to make sure that they are counted correctly. This would not only include a vote in each race, but what happens if someone votes for two or more candidates in the same race. For example, to make sure that they count correctly if someone voted for BIden and Trump.

2) If the ballots are the type with the ovals that you fill in, you should probably test various levels of fill to make sure that they are counted correctly. For example, you might have en oval completely filled in, with 'X' or a line through it, with less than complete fill, and with different types of votes.

3) You should probably also have ballots with marks outside of the boxes to make sure those aren't counted as votes.

I wonder what else they might have been testing.

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You don't read much.

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So what precisely were they testing?

I guess we could go back and pull the Pro V&V or SLI tests we discussed ad nauseam 3 years ago, but folks didn't listen then. Even in their own results they showed irregularities their own documentation said were indicators of problems. One specifically was machines missing tamper seals, but whatever.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them find non-carrier grade routers that have DHCP capabilities. (yup, going way back, but it was on that thread about 50 pages later).

In this thread, it was about a certain set of equipment tests that the party observers observed in most counties and found no issues.

The issues being raised are by those grasping at straws to try to make their flawed arguments. The issues can only be raised by ignoring the actual meanings of those tests and the reports of them.

A Christmas Day 'Thank You' to the 1500+ Maricopa County voter-volunteers who donated over 100,000 hrs of their time & hand-examined almost 2.1 million 2020 ballots.

Every American owes you a debt of gratitude.

'God bless (you), every one!'

Video below https://t.co/lXb9iNDNJw pic.twitter.com/9CgNkFGFFJ

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) December 25, 2023

So Trump won Maricopa and thus AZ.

Not surprised.

jt2hunt said:

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A Christmas Day 'Thank You' to the 1500+ Maricopa County voter-volunteers who donated over 100,000 hrs of their time & hand-examined almost 2.1 million 2020 ballots.

Every American owes you a debt of gratitude.

'God bless (you), every one!'

Video below https://t.co/lXb9iNDNJw pic.twitter.com/9CgNkFGFFJ

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) December 25, 2023

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In other words, if you are bound and determined to try to prove something, but can't, the alternate is to make strange claims that prove nothing.

"there were odd patterns" and "seven-to-one" means nothing. If you pick and choose any source of data, you are likely to find small clumps. If you see something, it is because you want to see that, not because there is anything actually there to see.

The rest is no better than that.

eric76 said:

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A Christmas Day 'Thank You' to the 1500+ Maricopa County voter-volunteers who donated over 100,000 hrs of their time & hand-examined almost 2.1 million 2020 ballots.

Every American owes you a debt of gratitude.

'God bless (you), every one!'

Video below https://t.co/lXb9iNDNJw pic.twitter.com/9CgNkFGFFJ

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) December 25, 2023

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In other words, if you are bound and determined to try to prove something, but can't, the alternate is to make strange claims that prove nothing.

"there were odd patterns" and "seven-to-one" means nothing. If you pick and choose any source of data, you are likely to find small clumps. If you see something, it is because you want to see that, not because there is anything actually there to see.

The rest is no better than that.

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Oh man, it gets better and better! Lol

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The term is ascribed to Lenin, but its origin is uncertain. It originally referred to Western intellectuals who naively supported the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union, ignoring the realities. Lenin and Stalin were said to secretly despise such people, but found them "useful" for their propaganda. Thus, they were called "useful idiots." The phenomenon still exists today.

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So you have nothing to contribute to the discussion except for derailing by casting aspersions.

Answer this for me -- if there were 7-1 ballots for Biden and there was anything meaningful in that, then how come Biden didn't win any county by such a margin?

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Oh man, it gets better and better! Lol

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The term is ascribed to Lenin, but its origin is uncertain. It originally referred to Western intellectuals who naively supported the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union, ignoring the realities. Lenin and Stalin were said to secretly despise such people, but found them "useful" for their propaganda. Thus, they were called "useful idiots." The phenomenon still exists today.

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Trump does have a lot of useful idiots. It's shocking how many he has.

As does your boy Biden.

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jt2hunt said:

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A Christmas Day 'Thank You' to the 1500+ Maricopa County voter-volunteers who donated over 100,000 hrs of their time & hand-examined almost 2.1 million 2020 ballots.

Every American owes you a debt of gratitude.

'God bless (you), every one!'

Video below https://t.co/lXb9iNDNJw pic.twitter.com/9CgNkFGFFJ

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) December 25, 2023

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In other words, if you are bound and determined to try to prove something, but can't, the alternate is to make strange claims that prove nothing.

"there were odd patterns" and "seven-to-one" means nothing. If you pick and choose any source of data, you are likely to find small clumps. If you see something, it is because you want to see that, not because there is anything actually there to see.

The rest is no better than that.

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You seriously need to step away from this issue.

BREAKING: 45K EXTRA REGISTERED VOTERS ADDED OVERNIGHT IN MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA 2022 GENERAL ELECTION then REMOVED THEM DURING AN ELECTION.👇

Cutoff 11th October 2,435,397
L&A Testing 12th October 2,480,880
Election Certification 2,435,397… pic.twitter.com/d4SapsTXMy

— DogAndBone @Curious Cat (@Curiousityfirst) December 24, 2023

And who has access to the entire state's voter rolls? Runbeck.

State of Denial on rumble

There you go.

ETA: Keep in mind this one fact about 2022 midterms. Maricopa County has county wide voting, not precinct based. So when election officials told voters having problems getting their ballots scanned at a particular location, could go to another one they left out one crucial fact: they would first have to void their check-in at their current location. Sidenote to that was that election workers did not know how to log checked in voters out of the system. So when people did go to another location, it showed they had already votes and they were turned away.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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jt2hunt said:

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A Christmas Day 'Thank You' to the 1500+ Maricopa County voter-volunteers who donated over 100,000 hrs of their time & hand-examined almost 2.1 million 2020 ballots.

Every American owes you a debt of gratitude.

'God bless (you), every one!'

Video below https://t.co/lXb9iNDNJw pic.twitter.com/9CgNkFGFFJ

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) December 25, 2023

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In other words, if you are bound and determined to try to prove something, but can't, the alternate is to make strange claims that prove nothing.

"there were odd patterns" and "seven-to-one" means nothing. If you pick and choose any source of data, you are likely to find small clumps. If you see something, it is because you want to see that, not because there is anything actually there to see.

The rest is no better than that.

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You seriously need to step away from this issue.

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If you can't see the many flaws in the statements in that tweet, then you have a problem. Some of those flaws are glaring.

jt2hunt said:

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BREAKING: 45K EXTRA REGISTERED VOTERS ADDED OVERNIGHT IN MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA 2022 GENERAL ELECTION then REMOVED THEM DURING AN ELECTION.👇

Cutoff 11th October 2,435,397
L&A Testing 12th October 2,480,880
Election Certification 2,435,397… pic.twitter.com/d4SapsTXMy

— DogAndBone @Curious Cat (@Curiousityfirst) December 24, 2023

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And the arguments there are completely bogus.

They were testing the equipment. When doing that, you use test data, not actual data. What is important is that it reads the ballots correctly.

Also, the tests were mostly performed in front of observers from both major political parties and maybe others. The observers who were there to see the equipment tested had no issues, but some bozo on the Internet who clearly has no understanding of what the tests are for makes a bunch of asinine and misleading assumptions and claims that it means something entirely different.

They were testing equipment and the equipment passed the inspection just as it should do.