TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Democrats and the media:

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Which is why the House should impeach him. What's wrong with them?

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Ok. Let's say the House DOES impeach him.

What is step 2?

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Tell me again about how the GOP is the party of law and order.

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I believe in law and order. I also believe in not banging my head into a wall just to do it.

I think Biden is guilty as sin. I also KNOW that an impeachment will accomplish exactly ZERO.

Spend the time trying to at least accomplish SOMETHING positive.

The ONLY thing that an impeachment does is give an emotional high to the hard core GOP base.

BTW, I gave an example of what the GOP needs to do.

Get a GOP POTUS and THEN go after him in COURT, where at least there's a chance that something can stick to Biden.

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TexAgs91 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Democrats and the media:

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Which is why the House should impeach him. What's wrong with them?

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Ok. Let's say the House DOES impeach him.

What is step 2?

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Tell me again about how the GOP is the party of law and order.

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I believe in law and order. I also believe in not banging my head into a wall just to do it.

I think Biden is guilty as sin. I also KNOW that an impeachment will accomplish exactly ZERO.

Spend the time trying to at least accomplish SOMETHING positive.

The ONLY thing that an impeachment does is give an emotional high to the hard core GOP base.

BTW, I gave an example of what the GOP needs to do.

Get a GOP POTUS and THEN go after him in COURT, where at least there's a chance that something can stick to Biden.

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The GOP POTUS won't be for law and order either. He will drop it in the spirit of "moving forward" as if while moving forward, we'll never have to deal with corrupt politicians again, so no need to make an example of Joe.

TexAgs91 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Democrats and the media:

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Which is why the House should impeach him. What's wrong with them?

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Ok. Let's say the House DOES impeach him.

What is step 2?

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Tell me again about how the GOP is the party of law and order.

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I believe in law and order. I also believe in not banging my head into a wall just to do it.

I think Biden is guilty as sin. I also KNOW that an impeachment will accomplish exactly ZERO.

Spend the time trying to at least accomplish SOMETHING positive.

The ONLY thing that an impeachment does is give an emotional high to the hard core GOP base.

BTW, I gave an example of what the GOP needs to do.

Get a GOP POTUS and THEN go after him in COURT, where at least there's a chance that something can stick to Biden.

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The GOP POTUS won't be for law and order either. He will drop it in the spirit of "moving forward" as if while moving forward, we'll never have to deal with corrupt politicians again, so no need to make an example of Joe.

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Again. If you impeach Biden, then what? He's still going to be POTUS when you're done.

Now, PROSECUTING them, I agree they need to do it and NOT drop it to "move forward". Trump set a horrible precedent with Hillary when he did just that.

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TexAgs91 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Democrats and the media:

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Which is why the House should impeach him. What's wrong with them?

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Ok. Let's say the House DOES impeach him.

What is step 2?

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Tell me again about how the GOP is the party of law and order.

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I believe in law and order. I also believe in not banging my head into a wall just to do it.

I think Biden is guilty as sin. I also KNOW that an impeachment will accomplish exactly ZERO.

Spend the time trying to at least accomplish SOMETHING positive.

The ONLY thing that an impeachment does is give an emotional high to the hard core GOP base.

BTW, I gave an example of what the GOP needs to do.

Get a GOP POTUS and THEN go after him in COURT, where at least there's a chance that something can stick to Biden.

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The GOP POTUS won't be for law and order either. He will drop it in the spirit of "moving forward" as if while moving forward, we'll never have to deal with corrupt politicians again, so no need to make an example of Joe.

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Again. If you impeach Biden, then what? He's still going to be POTUS when you're done.

Now, PROSECUTING them, I agree they need to do it and NOT drop it to "move forward". Trump set a horrible precedent with Hillary when he did just that.

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Yes, Trump did, and it was very wrong. But it's tradition. I think that any republican would do the same unfortunately.

The 'then what' is that more people will hear about Joe's corruption. The news will get out that he's been impeached. Of course Pravda will put their spin on it to protect The Party, but I think a significant percentage of the public will learn something from it.

Also, the record will forever show how Biden sold out the country for money. This investigation the House is doing is important. It's exposing Joe's operation and investigating how this country was compromised. We need to know this.

Straight to jail.

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BluHorseShu said:

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CDUB98 said:

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And all our resident leftist will continue to ignore and/or deny.

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So far only Aggiehawg is questioning the legality. Interesting day.

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You can impeach on way less than that.

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If its true, they could use it against the dems in the upcoming election year..?

Only reason i can think of at this point to not impeach.

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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Democrats and the media:

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Which is why the House should impeach him. What's wrong with them?

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Ok. Let's say the House DOES impeach him.

What is step 2?

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Tell me again about how the GOP is the party of law and order.

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I believe in law and order. I also believe in not banging my head into a wall just to do it.

I think Biden is guilty as sin. I also KNOW that an impeachment will accomplish exactly ZERO.

Spend the time trying to at least accomplish SOMETHING positive.

The ONLY thing that an impeachment does is give an emotional high to the hard core GOP base.

BTW, I gave an example of what the GOP needs to do.

Get a GOP POTUS and THEN go after him in COURT, where at least there's a chance that something can stick to Biden.

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The GOP POTUS won't be for law and order either. He will drop it in the spirit of "moving forward" as if while moving forward, we'll never have to deal with corrupt politicians again, so no need to make an example of Joe.

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Again. If you impeach Biden, then what? He's still going to be POTUS when you're done.

Now, PROSECUTING them, I agree they need to do it and NOT drop it to "move forward". Trump set a horrible precedent with Hillary when he did just that.

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It doesn't matter. You use the tools available to you. He needs to be impeached. He's violating the Constitution with his inaction on the border. It is impeachable.

If what we're seeing is true, this proves that in 2019, when Biden did not hold any elected office, he made three payments of $1380 for his son Hunter's 2018 Ford Raptor and was later reimbursed for those payments.

This shocking, vile, and clearly treasonous behavior demands not just impeachment but immediate execution.

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This picture is the actual crime.

Joe already looking like weekend at Bernie's…

Hunter already owned a $142,000 Porche that a Kazakh oligarch bought him after he had dinner with Hunter's dad in 2014. Hunter also already owned an Audi at the time. Why is one of Hunter's LLCs paying his dad back for a third vehicle- a measly 50-60k gas guzzler truck when Hunter makes so many multi-million dollar deals around the globe on his own?

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Is there any more appropriate care for Hunter Biden than a Ford Doush?

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I would never pay for one but would definitely drive one if my daddy bought it for me. Unfortunately, my dad told me I'm a grown man and to buy my own damn truck myself.

He's old fashioned and believes in being self-sufficient. He's not the President of the United States or anything…

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Hunter already owned a $142,000 Porche that a Kazakh oligarch bought him after he had dinner with Hunter's dad in 2014. Hunter also already owned an Audi at the time. Why is one of Hunter's LLCs paying his dad back for a third vehicle- a measly 50-60k gas guzzler truck when Hunter makes so many multi-million dollar deals around the globe on his own?

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That sounds like critical thinking, sir…

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You get grief about not being conservative because you fit the CM stereotype to a 'T'. You are the living, breathing embodiment of a "concerned moderate".

But keep playing dumb…it's super convincing.

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If what we're seeing is true, this proves that in 2019, when Biden did not hold any elected office, he made three payments of $1380 for his son Hunter's 2018 Ford Raptor and was later reimbursed for those payments.

This shocking, vile, and clearly treasonous behavior demands not just impeachment but immediate execution.

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Yeah, shady Hunter, who got money for being on a board for doing nothing and tossing a gun in a dumpster made only three payments with Daddy totaling $4200 to take care of his bills. Case closed. Debonked.

Hey don't let me stop you from doing what you're doing. Full steam ahead for you. In fact, you guys should make this the centerpiece of your argument. It totally proves... something, I guess.

it's almost like writing "loan repayment" on the memo of a check is a way to launder money


Chinese energy company wires one of Hunter's LLPs $400k - several shell company transactions later and Sara Biden writes a "loan repayment" check to Joe Biden for $40k (10%).

A company says in it's bankruptcy filings that they paid James Biden $200k because they were told his "name could open some doors" to middle east investors. James Biden writes a check to Joe Biden for exactly $200k for "loan repayment".

One of Hunter Biden's shell companies writes three checks for $1380 to Joe for "loan repayment" for a ford truck.

If Joe's brother and son are such bad ass businessmen that foreign oligarchs what to give them so many millions of dollars all the time, why does Joe need to be a loan shark for them?

So a guy that was making $500K a year from Burisma needed a loan from his unemployed dad to pay for a truck?

Does not compute.

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So a guy that was making $500K a year from Burisma needed a loan from his unemployed dad to pay for a truck?

Does not compute.

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The liberals on here know the Biden family is corrupt, but being a good soldier requires you to deny it.

Why does it matter what the money was for? The money was paid to Owasca from China. Hunter then used that money to give to his dad. In other words, Joe Biden was paid with Chinese dollars flowing from Owasca. But that's all on the up and up, right?

I personally see this particular story as indicative of the entire Hunter Biden saga. I expect in pretty short order we'll have bank records showing Joe Biden paid the lender of the auto loan $4140, contemporary emails discussing the payment for $4140 and what is for, and bank records of Joe Biden being repaid $4140 out of an account controlled by Hunter Biden.

Conservatives will look at that an insist it is proof of unethical or illegal behavior. But I don't think it's going to convince anyone who wasn't already biased against Joe Biden anyway. How exactly did he profit anything in this scenario? I think this is a great example of conservatives crying wolf which is why I encourage you to keep crying.

PeePaw must have spent a lot of time in his Quicken spreadsheet tracking all this money. Good thing he was out of office. Unless Dr. Jill has a PhD in accounting.

For folks that peddle influence for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, $4200 sure seems like a pitiful amount for a bribe or payoff.

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For folks that peddle influence for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, $4200 sure seems like a pitiful amount for a bribe or payoff.

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Congrats on minimizing corruption by democrats.

One does not just randomly happen to get $4,200 because of an accounting mistake from a shell company. Your concern is showing through here.

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B-1 83 said:

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For folks that peddle influence for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, $4200 sure seems like a pitiful amount for a bribe or payoff.

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Congrats on minimizing corruption by democrats.

One does not just randomly happen to get $4,200 because of an accounting mistake from a shell company. Your concern is showing through here.

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OMG! OMG! OMG! I've earned the dreaded F16 "CM " label again! The shame! How will I ever get through the day!

I'm sure that case would fly through any criminal court, and the House/Senate would vote unanimously for impeachment with such an airtight case. They're crooked as hell, but if you're hanging your hat on this nonsense you'll be horribly disappointed. My "concern" is Republicans looking like fools with piddly ass stuff like this. It will take MUCH more significant amounts to sway the opinions needed for full scale impeachment.

there are hard core America-hating communists out there who think the mountain of evidence that joe biden is corrupt asF is just "yet another example of conservatives crying wolf". holy sheeit some people are ritaarded.

government worshiping communists need to stop defending the political elite in our corrupt political system.

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akm91 said:

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So a guy that was making $500K a year from Burisma needed a loan from his unemployed dad to pay for a truck?

Does not compute.

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The liberals on here know the Biden family is corrupt, but being a good soldier requires you to deny it.

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But that is all that happens here. Biden supporters carry his water as good soldiers and Trumps supporters do the same and deny everything.

Regardless of illegal, immoral or unethical acts, many here on both sides will relentlessly continue to support their leader. However, outside the confines of this board, people are more discerning about who they champion and criticize...even if they still vote for them. Whats astonishing is that neither side seems interested in really getting behind quality candidates who have integrity and faith. While getting control of congress and the Whitehouse is the ultimate goal....the quality of the people we put in there kind of makes a difference.

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For folks that peddle influence for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, $4200 sure seems like a pitiful amount for a bribe or payoff.

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Congrats on minimizing corruption by democrats.

One does not just randomly happen to get $4,200 because of an accounting mistake from a shell company. Your concern is showing through here.

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OMG! OMG! OMG! I've earned the dreaded F16 "CM " label again! The shame! How will I ever get through the day!

I'm sure that case would fly through any criminal court, and the House/Senate would vote unanimously for impeachment with such an airtight case. They're crooked as hell, but if you're hanging your hat on this nonsense you'll be horribly disappointed. My "concern" is Republicans looking like fools with piddly ass stuff like this. It will take MUCH more significant amounts to sway the opinions needed for full scale impeachment.

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That is not what you said. You said "For folks that peddle influence for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, $4200 sure seems like a pitiful amount for a bribe or payoff." which reads like, if he was a corrupt politician he would have gotten way more than just $4,200.

Now you have invented this, it wouldn't get him impeached hurdle. Okay, I agree. But it should certainly be the lead story on every news site. Pressure should be mounting. It is not. Because it is minimized away to obscurity just like you attempted here.

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what are Trump supporters denying? we currently have the most corrupt president in history, chalk full of conflicts of interest from around the globe, fully compromised so no one can ever be sure if he's putting Americans' interest ahead of his own. meanwhile:

Russia russia russia was a hoax - can't deny that
the phone call to Ukraine asking about Biden's corruption was a good question- can't deny that
the document retention policy is being subjectively applied or misapplied when it's (d)ifferent - can't deny that
real property valuations for long-since paid off loans to a commercial real estate development company decades ago were made by companies, bankers, and attorneys back then - can't deny that
trump asked people at the national mall on 1/6 to be peacefully heard- can't deny that

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You get grief about not being conservative because you fit the CM stereotype to a 'T'. You are the living, breathing embodiment of a "concerned moderate".

But keep playing dumb…it's super convincing.

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Meh...I guess I'd rather be perceived by some that way than just repeating and agreeing with what everyone else says all the time. Its not like anyone here is affected in the real world by what others think here. F16 is mostly just entertainment for many here who need the drama. The ones who are really interested in discussion don't have the need to reply with ad homs. They either speak to the point of the response or they don't reply. Others need to compensate. Stereotypes abound here.

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Biden supporters carry his water as good soldiers and Trumps supporters do the same and deny everything.

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what are Trump supporters denying? we currently have the most corrupt president in history, chalk full of conflicts of interest from around the globe, fully compromised so no one can ever be sure if he's putting Americans' interest ahead of his own. meanwhile:

Russia russia russia was a hoax - can't deny that
the phone call to Ukraine asking about Biden's corruption was a good question- can't deny that
the document retention policy is being subjectively applied or misapplied when it's (d)ifferent - can't deny that
real property valuations for long-since paid off loans to a commercial real estate development company decades ago were made by companies, bankers, and attorneys back then - can't deny that
trump asked people at the national mall on 1/6 to be peacefully heard- can't deny that

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They can deny it. Here is how.

Individual believes Orange Man bad.
New information is made available.
Individual interprets new information through lens of Orange Man bad.
If New information makes Orange man seem more bad, information is gospel.
If New information makes Orange man seem good, information is untrue and these lies are because Orange man or because of his followers ergo new information confirms Orange Man bad.

Information has no value if the lens it is interpreted isn't seeking truth but rather seeking to confirm its bias.

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And all our resident leftist will continue to ignore and/or deny.

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So far only Aggiehawg is questioning the legality. Interesting day.

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Hence the "ignore" part of his post. Covers what the rest of you typically do.

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Oh that's right. I'm a leftist. Its good that I have F16 to remind me that you are only conservative if you agree with the right things like election conspiracies, Trumps innocence, FBI responsible for Jan 6 etc. And question none of it..

Up until I started posting here I always thought being conservative was based on limited government, individualism, traditionalism, republicanism. Its nice to have folks of this caliber show me that's not true.

Maybe they should start handing out special lapel pins to those who vote conservative but aren't the 'right' kind of conservative that falls in line. That way you can identify us better.

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I'm not a Trump supporter, dingbat. Your posting history is plenty evidence of your lack of conservative ideological ties

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Show me one post where I support anything but. I guess if questioning certain topics is evidence, then I guess. But I'd be really interested to see what comment of mine is evidence. I mean its easy to make a general statement, or to take a cue from another poster and run with that as evidence.

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a parmesan snorting crack head without a single discernable valuable talent to contribute and no valuable wares to sell is making millions and millions of dollars from Romania, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, China, Mexico, etc. Meanwhile, his political elite father who now has multiple multi-million dollar real properties despite a career in public service making less than 200k/year, plays golf with his son's business partners, attends dinners with them, has them as guests at the white house and the naval observatory, and even dials into their quarterly board meetings, was of course just talking about the weather.

THERE! BAM! Corruption DEBOOONKED!!! No possible conflicts of interest. Can't possibly be compromised. Clearly the most honest and transparent president ever. Stop the witch-hunt!!

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"THERE! BAM! Corruption DEBOOONKED!!! No possible conflicts of interest. Can't possibly be compromised."

Sadly many people believe that BS, and it appears that includes people posting on this board.

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TexAgs91 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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Democrats and the media:

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Which is why the House should impeach him. What's wrong with them?

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Ok. Let's say the House DOES impeach him.

What is step 2?

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Tell me again about how the GOP is the party of law and order.

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Impeaching when you know the Senate is going to toss it immediately and the majority of the public will give zero ****s that they do.

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It doesn't matter what the Senate will do. The House has its job and the Senate has theirs. Crimes like Joe's is what impeachment is for. It also serves the propose of educating the public.

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Agree completely.

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it's almost like writing "loan repayment" on the memo of a check is a way to launder money


Chinese energy company wires one of Hunter's LLPs $400k - several shell company transactions later and Sara Biden writes a "loan repayment" check to Joe Biden for $40k (10%).

A company says in it's bankruptcy filings that they paid James Biden $200k because they were told his "name could open some doors" to middle east investors. James Biden writes a check to Joe Biden for exactly $200k for "loan repayment".

One of Hunter Biden's shell companies writes three checks for $1380 to Joe for "loan repayment" for a ford truck.

If Joe's brother and son are such bad ass businessmen that foreign oligarchs what to give them so many millions of dollars all the time, why does Joe need to be a loan shark for them?

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The facts you stated are clear evidence President Biden is corrupted, quite possibly the most corrupt President in our country's history.