Every. Single. Commercial

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Antoninus said:

B-1 83 said:

lthink the point is that if commercials are supposed to represent a legitimate cross section of America, they are going about it in an odd way and in odd proportions.
Who said advertising is supposed to be a demographic mirror of the country? Advertising is designed to sell product.
Then why consistently aim the selling of a product to a tiny minority of the potential purchasing audience? How do we know you aren't in advertising without you saying as much?
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Antoninus said:

Nanomachines son said:

They know advertising has little effect on product sales and the stock price so it's used to push ESG and DEI narratives instead. Additionally, global finance uses it as a humiliation ritual. There is a reason these ads only are shown in the West.
if advertising had no affect on sales, no one would spend a penny on advertising.


Studies have basically proven it doesn't really have any effect on sales once the product or brand is well known. I believe some of the major companies that produce tons of the products we use have stopped all online advertising because it doesn't move the needle.

Advertising is nothing but make work jobs at this point for humanities majors. It has little to do with the actual product at all. You can find tons of information about this online.

It exists because it's a leftover behemoth from the old era where everyone watched tv and trusted what they saw or heard on the radio. Barely anyone at this point watches tv or listens to the radio, and online ads have never worked.
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Antoninus said:

B-1 83 said:

lthink the point is that if commercials are supposed to represent a legitimate cross section of America, they are going about it in an odd way and in odd proportions.
Who said advertising is supposed to be a demographic mirror of the country? Advertising is designed to sell product.
so coke, ford and walmart etc. should start heavily marketing to Uzbeks and Tajiks here in the U.S.
I will let them know based on your solid advice to do Major ad buys across all media in all major markets. I will also let them know you recommend they can tell their customers 18 to 54 to drop dead, and to let them know they just aren't all that important. Finally I would like your input for a Sharia based" Thirsty Thursday " campaign for local sports bars. Thanks !!
#FJB
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fc2112 said:

8.4% of marriages in the US are interracial.

100% of the commercials in that last commercial break were interracial.


So……you're comparing data from 300 million people to a sample of 4 commercials? Oh, and who cares?
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Artorias said:

Pointed this out to my wife a while back and she didn't believe me, until she started paying attention and realized it was true. We started looking to see if any commercials included a white heterosexual couple. They were few and far between.

Also had to point out to her the predominant casting of male characters as the dopey, comedic relief, while the women tend to be the strong, smart, leader roles. It is extremely prevalent in modern sitcoms, and most kids/teen programming.
Agreed I have noticed this too and it does not reflect society.
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TexasAggie_97 said:

Artorias said:

Pointed this out to my wife a while back and she didn't believe me, until she started paying attention and realized it was true. We started looking to see if any commercials included a white heterosexual couple. They were few and far between.

Also had to point out to her the predominant casting of male characters as the dopey, comedic relief, while the women tend to be the strong, smart, leader roles. It is extremely prevalent in modern sitcoms, and most kids/teen programming.
Agreed I have noticed this too and it does not reflect society.
A lot of the home improvement or house hunting shows also seem to skew heavily toward biracial or homosexual couples who are either home shopping or remodeling. It just seems disproportionate to the real world.
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Didn't see it but let me guess..

Blonde hair blue eyed females with a black husband?

Am I close?

Pretty sick what the MSM is shoving down our throats.
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2wealfth Man said:

TexasAggie_97 said:

Artorias said:

Pointed this out to my wife a while back and she didn't believe me, until she started paying attention and realized it was true. We started looking to see if any commercials included a white heterosexual couple. They were few and far between.

Also had to point out to her the predominant casting of male characters as the dopey, comedic relief, while the women tend to be the strong, smart, leader roles. It is extremely prevalent in modern sitcoms, and most kids/teen programming.
Agreed I have noticed this too and it does not reflect society.
A lot of the home improvement or house hunting shows also seem to skew heavily toward biracial or homosexual couples who are either home shopping or remodeling. It just seems disproportionate to the real world.
Probably because the producers are not interested in entertainment. They are interested in pushing their ideology, the show is just the vehicle. Look at disney. They are no longer an entertainment company. The
main goal now is woke social justice and societal change, not making money. Disney has tanked multiple woke films in a row and has billions over the last couple of years, but they just keep failing and then they double down on more woke failure. This guy's channels is to save pop culture from the " woke wankers and cultural vandals " Which is so accurate of a description. You can start at 1:25 mark as he disects what is going on at Disney. This is not for kids.

#FJB
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Back to OP...

I call BS...there is no way you saw 4 straight commercials during an NFL game not involving Travis Kelce.
Talk about making hay while the sun is shining...

Hell, during an Aggie game a few weeks back, I counted 3 in a row with Kelce
The problem with people that don't get it is they don't get that they don't get it.
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Those Kroger commercials must really drive the OP crazy
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localag88 said:

Back to OP...

I call BS...there is no way you saw 4 straight commercials during an NFL game not involving Travis Kelce.
Talk about making hay while the sun is shining...

Hell, during an Aggie game a few weeks back, I counted 3 in a row with Kelce


Smart move for him. Make that money.


Even if his current flame is a billionaire
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Yep, if the competition does it, you must also, or brand awareness would suffer and sales be lost. It works. It just may not work on you specifically, at lest that you are consciously aware of, but it generally works on some target audience. Usually. Sometimes it fails or even Mulvaneys.
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What kind of moron watches commercials?

If they made them to match demographics in Texas they would mostly need to be in Guatemalan Spanish.
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Picard said:

It seems racist that they're only marketing to African Americans




How many dual citizens do we have with both an African and American citizenship?
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aTmAg said:

It's funny to see libs try to repurpose the word "triggered". We didn't make up that word, you did... to describe YOURSELVES. You are the weaklings that are triggered by butterflies, not us.
'Triggered' can be applied to both sides. What actually is funny is people using the word 'triggered' and then getting 'triggered' a few posts/threads later.

People are emotional beings, period. Many may not allow their emotions to frequently get the best of them...but theres always a tipping point...unless they are a sociopath or on the spectrum.

Being inordinately angry about something is 'triggered'. Like those that lose there minds when people don't agree the election was stolen...or when TAMU fires an employee and sends him home with $76 mil.
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BluHorseShu said:

aTmAg said:

It's funny to see libs try to repurpose the word "triggered". We didn't make up that word, you did... to describe YOURSELVES. You are the weaklings that are triggered by butterflies, not us.
'Triggered' can be applied to both sides. What actually is funny is people using the word 'triggered' and then getting 'triggered' a few posts/threads later.

People are emotional beings, period. Many may not allow their emotions to frequently get the best of them...but theres always a tipping point...unless they are a sociopath or on the spectrum.

Being inordinately angry about something is 'triggered'. Like those that lose there minds when people don't agree the election was stolen...or when TAMU fires an employee and sends him home with $76 mil.
And some of us are still "triggered" about Fran.

Thanks, Obama!
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I am also triggered by people typing triggered.

Are we not supposed to share our opinions?
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My wife and I, being a "mixed race" couple, have been laughing at these ridiculous commercials and advertising for a couple of years now. It's not even pandering. Who would they be pandering too? My guess would be the social justice crowd but I would assume they would not approve of white males marrying women of color to begin with.

It's nothing more than white liberals flailing around to try present a standard couple in America that is actually quite the minority. And if they really wanted to be closer to accurate, they would show more white/latino couples anyway, but I don't seem to see many. Almost always black/white.

What I find all the more amusing though is the really attractive female spouse with the beta, skinny jeans, husband. This is how you know these ads are being thought up by white libs.
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Urban Ag said:

My wife and I, being a "mixed race" couple, have been laughing at these ridiculous commercials and advertising for a couple of years now. It's not even pandering. Who would they be pandering too? My guess would be the social justice crowd but I would assume they would not approve of white males marrying women of color to begin with.

It's nothing more than white liberals flailing around to try present a standard couple in America that is actually quite the minority. And if they really wanted to be closer to accurate, they would show more white/latino couples anyway, but I don't seem to see many. Almost always black/white.

What I find all the more amusing though is the really attractive female spouse with the beta, skinny jeans, husband. This is how you know these ads are being thought up by white libs.
MZ R and I are a mixed race couple. I am 5th generation Texan and she is an Irish lass. We both feel left out when it comes to the representation of racial makeup in commercials.
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Antoninus said:

Nanomachines son said:

They know advertising has little effect on product sales and the stock price so it's used to push ESG and DEI narratives instead. Additionally, global finance uses it as a humiliation ritual. There is a reason these ads only are shown in the West.
if advertising had no affect on sales, no one would spend a penny on advertising.


Then you don't know anything about Marketing. As an outsider who took over Marketing, I can assure you there is much marketing spend that has little to no actual ROI. When I took over this function, my immediate push was to have the team show me how, where, why, and when we spent Marketing dollars and to show me the ROI of each channel.

Lo and behold, I discovered entire channels of Marketing spend that had not produced a single lead...in years. I immediately killed that spend. When I asked the team why they continued to spend money on channels that produced nothing? "That's just what you do. That's how Marketing works."

After delving further into this and attending Marketing industry events, I then discovered that most companies have no ability to tie revenue generation back to Marketing spend. It's still considered somewhat of a holy grail to understand and make this connection for most companies.

If you look at a lot of the digital marketing metrics they are meaningless bull**** - site visits, click throughs...basically just interactions with your external channels with a lot of it not translating to revenue. We had a dashboard with all of these metrics that basically just told me how often someone touches or gets touched by us but ROI couldn't be measured.

Like many things, money gets spent on Marketing by Marketing people because it's make work for their industry and departments. It keeps them employed.

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TheGreatEscape said:

I am also triggered by people typing triggered.

Are we not supposed to share our opinions?
Only those non-triggering opinions.
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B-1 83 said:

Antoninus said:


Who said advertising is supposed to be a demographic mirror of the country? Advertising is designed to sell product.
Then why consistently aim the selling of a product to a tiny minority of the potential purchasing audience? How do we know you aren't in advertising without you saying as much?
Your underlying premise is that the majority of the population (Whites) will only buy the product if advertising features other Whites.

Empirical evidence seems to indicate otherwise. Apparently, most Whites are not that insecure.

I suspect that companies utilizing the advertising at issue in this thread (which seems to give the hives to some posters) have come to the conclusion that FEW Whites get hives from seeing minorities in ads, that MOST Whites simply do not care, that other Whites will be drawn to "inclusive" advertising, and/or that many minorities appreciate seeing it.

If any significant percentage of the White population were as hypersensitive to minority actors in ads as is the case for this thread, you would not see it.
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Nanomachines son said:


Studies have basically proven it doesn't really have any effect on sales once the product or brand is well known. I believe some of the major companies that produce tons of the products we use have stopped all online advertising because it doesn't move the needle.

Advertising is nothing but make work jobs at this point for humanities majors. It has little to do with the actual product at all. You can find tons of information about this online.

It exists because it's a leftover behemoth from the old era where everyone watched tv and trusted what they saw or heard on the radio. Barely anyone at this point watches tv or listens to the radio, and online ads have never worked.
I think that most advertising for "legacy" products is simply intended to foster ongoing name recognition. If these "inclusive" ads bothered many people, they would be counter-productive, and we would not see them.
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EX TEXASEX said:


so coke, ford and walmart etc. should start heavily marketing to Uzbeks and Tajiks here in the U.S.
I will let them know based on your solid advice to do Major ad buys across all media in all major markets. I will also let them know you recommend they can tell their customers 18 to 54 to drop dead, and to let them know they just aren't all that important. Finally I would like your input for a Sharia based" Thirsty Thursday " campaign for local sports bars. Thanks !!
Your reading comprehension is ... limited.
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Build It said:

What kind of moron watches commercials?

If they made them to match demographics in Texas they would mostly need to be in Guatemalan Spanish.



Not only watches them, but makes notes on them.
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Antoninus said:

B-1 83 said:

Antoninus said:


Who said advertising is supposed to be a demographic mirror of the country? Advertising is designed to sell product.
Then why consistently aim the selling of a product to a tiny minority of the potential purchasing audience? How do we know you aren't in advertising without you saying as much?
Your underlying premise is that the majority of the population (Whites) will only buy the product if advertising features other Whites.

Empirical evidence seems to indicate otherwise. Apparently, most Whites are not that insecure.

I suspect that companies utilizing the advertising at issue in this thread (which seems to give the hives to some posters) have come to the conclusion that FEW Whites get hives from seeing minorities in ads, that MOST Whites simply do not care, that other Whites will be drawn to "inclusive" advertising, and/or that many minorities appreciate seeing it.

If any significant percentage of the White population were as hypersensitive to minority actors in ads as is the case for this thread, you would not see it.


It's amusing to me that you think this whole shift in advertising was somehow driven by empirical evidence and designed to sell product. It's 100% driven by macro cultural political trends triggered by the BLM movement that happened not long after the #metoo movement. It has nothing to do with selling product and everything to do with political messaging and propaganda.

There was almost an overnight shift in content and advertising as a result of it. You had every streaming platform (at the same time) put black content front and center for months. You were forced to look at it and navigate away from it for weeks on end. The shift in demographics in these commercials was almost overnight around the same time frame.

The Oscars spent their entire show during all of this lamenting the plight of black people with Hollywood proclaiming on live tv that going forward their metric for representation, production, and everything about making movies would require 50% black people. (I have no idea if they have achieved that or if it's even possible considering real world numbers of black actors and workers in Hollywood.)

The new POTUS during all of this proclaimed that his VP candidate would be a black female...ruling out actual qualifications as a requirement. And then chooses a black female that just a few weeks prior publicly called him a rapist and a racist. Just flat out white guilt to the point that our POTUS picked a running mate who slandered him just under the level of calling him a murderer or pedophile!!

Talk to me how this is about selling product again.
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Antoninus said:

B-1 83 said:

Antoninus said:


Who said advertising is supposed to be a demographic mirror of the country? Advertising is designed to sell product.
Then why consistently aim the selling of a product to a tiny minority of the potential purchasing audience? How do we know you aren't in advertising without you saying as much?
Your underlying premise is that the majority of the population (Whites) will only buy the product if advertising features other Whites.

Empirical evidence seems to indicate otherwise. Apparently, most Whites are not that insecure.

I suspect that companies utilizing the advertising at issue in this thread (which seems to give the hives to some posters) have come to the conclusion that FEW Whites get hives from seeing minorities in ads, that MOST Whites simply do not care, that other Whites will be drawn to "inclusive" advertising, and/or that many minorities appreciate seeing it.

If any significant percentage of the White population were as hypersensitive to minority actors in ads as is the case for this thread, you would not see it.
Oh looky, the old shame on you if you dont roll the way the left wants you to.

Recent advertising campaigns dont begin to match the demographics of their supposed target market. Anyone with half a brain can see that. Maybe its you that's just blind. For example AB found out the hard way what happens if you screw that up to the tune of losing an estimated 4 billion in revenue. So much for your Empirical Evidence. Disney is learning the same lesson as are others. They just all seem to be a little slow learning what should have been obvious.

Funny thing, recent corporate hiring trends in many professional jobs is going kinda like the advertising-- not remotely related to demographic populations or even merit based hiring.

So, I guess by pointing this out instead of burying my head in the sand means I'm insecure. I'd rather be 'insecure' and able to think critically than have my head buried up my ass saying 'thank you sir, may I have another'. Empirical evidence my ass.
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YouBet said:

Antoninus said:

B-1 83 said:

Antoninus said:


Who said advertising is supposed to be a demographic mirror of the country? Advertising is designed to sell product.
Then why consistently aim the selling of a product to a tiny minority of the potential purchasing audience? How do we know you aren't in advertising without you saying as much?
Your underlying premise is that the majority of the population (Whites) will only buy the product if advertising features other Whites.

Empirical evidence seems to indicate otherwise. Apparently, most Whites are not that insecure.

I suspect that companies utilizing the advertising at issue in this thread (which seems to give the hives to some posters) have come to the conclusion that FEW Whites get hives from seeing minorities in ads, that MOST Whites simply do not care, that other Whites will be drawn to "inclusive" advertising, and/or that many minorities appreciate seeing it.

If any significant percentage of the White population were as hypersensitive to minority actors in ads as is the case for this thread, you would not see it.


It's amusing to me that you think this whole shift in advertising was somehow driven by empirical evidence and designed to sell product. It's 100% driven by macro cultural political trends triggered by the BLM movement that happened not long after the #metoo movement. It has nothing to do with selling product and everything to do with political messaging and propaganda.

There was almost an overnight shift in content and advertising as a result of it. You had every streaming platform (at the same time) put black content front and center for months. You were forced to look at it and navigate away from it for weeks on end. The shift in demographics in these commercials was almost overnight around the same time frame.

The Oscars spent their entire show during all of this lamenting the plight of black people with Hollywood proclaiming on live tv that going forward their metric for representation, production, and everything about making movies would require 50% black people. (I have no idea if they have achieved that or if it's even possible considering real world numbers of black actors and workers in Hollywood.)

The new POTUS during all of this proclaimed that his VP candidate would be a black female...ruling out actual qualifications as a requirement. And then chooses a black female that just a few weeks prior publicly called him a rapist and a racist. Just flat out white guilt to the point that our POTUS picked a running mate who slandered him just under the level of calling him a murderer or pedophile!!

Talk to me how this is about selling product again.


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Tanya 93 said:

localag88 said:

Back to OP...

I call BS...there is no way you saw 4 straight commercials during an NFL game not involving Travis Kelce.
Talk about making hay while the sun is shining...

Hell, during an Aggie game a few weeks back, I counted 3 in a row with Kelce


Smart move for him. Make that money.


Even if his current flame is a billionaire
Only a fool would count on a long-term relationship with Taylor Swift.
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BkYdPitmaster said:

fc2112 said:

8.4% of marriages in the US are interracial.

100% of the commercials in that last commercial break were interracial.


So……you're comparing data from 300 million people to a sample of 4 commercials? Oh, and who cares?
The irony is that in another thread someone was discussing that only only libs tend to get triggered. They certainly may be the majority to throw a fit, but getting bent out of shape about commercials is a waste of time. And I say this as someone who is baffled by the forced diversity in commercials and think its stupid. The difference is I don't let it affect me more than just "huh...well that's just virtue signaling".
I"ve got far too many other things that preoccupy my mind to fit this bs in it.
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Antoninus said:

B-1 83 said:

Antoninus said:


Who said advertising is supposed to be a demographic mirror of the country? Advertising is designed to sell product.
Then why consistently aim the selling of a product to a tiny minority of the potential purchasing audience? How do we know you aren't in advertising without you saying as much?
Your underlying premise is that the majority of the population (Whites) will only buy the product if advertising features other Whites.

Empirical evidence seems to indicate otherwise. Apparently, most Whites are not that insecure.

I suspect that companies utilizing the advertising at issue in this thread (which seems to give the hives to some posters) have come to the conclusion that FEW Whites get hives from seeing minorities in ads, that MOST Whites simply do not care, that other Whites will be drawn to "inclusive" advertising, and/or that many minorities appreciate seeing it.

If any significant percentage of the White population were as hypersensitive to minority actors in ads as is the case for this thread, you would not see it.
So you think that many blacks appreciate seeing their own portrayed in a lifestyle that a large majority of them do not, have not and may never participate in? Some might think it would have just the opposite effect
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BluHorseShu said:

BkYdPitmaster said:

fc2112 said:

8.4% of marriages in the US are interracial.

100% of the commercials in that last commercial break were interracial.


So……you're comparing data from 300 million people to a sample of 4 commercials? Oh, and who cares?
The irony is that in another thread someone was discussing that only only libs tend to get triggered. They certainly may be the majority to throw a fit, but getting bent out of shape about commercials is a waste of time. And I say this as someone who is baffled by the forced diversity in commercials and think its stupid. The difference is I don't let it affect me more than just "huh...well that's just virtue signaling".
I"ve got far too many other things that preoccupy my mind to fit this bs in it.


Right. Which is why you're here posting about it. My favorite part about the "above it all" posters is that they're in the same exact threads spending the same exact time/effort as those they look down upon.
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