lot's of space in Antarctica. Seems like no one would mind if they made some of it their homeland

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C@LAg said:

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biden will bus all 3 million whatever to the US.

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Fine if he wants to try and bus them. But we all need to be in the streets and ungovernable if he tries flying them here.

UTExan said:

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Cleansing the area of Hamas and insisting on a new democratic process would help. The more peace there is, the more trade and employment opportunities you have in Israel. Put monsters in power again? No food, fuel, water, etc.

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Problem with that is that we already (reportedly) have one senior Hamas official laying out how Hamas pursued this strategy as cover for planning their Jihad against Israel.

Peace is pointless unless you reboot the whole culture and purge them of their religion. And that will never happen.

aggiez03 said:

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Hopefully, 6 feet under if they support Hamas.

The rest of them should come together and create a functional society like Israel and Eqypt their two neighbors have.

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Yes the Gaza Strip needs leaders similar to the West Bank leaders so that the radical Hamas type culture can be expelled from that society.. those Gaza Strip kids have zero chance of leading normal lives if Hamas is brain washing them from day one …. as for Hamas itself, I think your seeing what's going to happen to them now, Israel isn't stopping till they are red mist

So Control Alt Delete then Control Alt Delete one more time

𝐎𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟔: Hilary Clinton says Trump “cult members” need to be “formally deprogrammed.”

𝐎𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟕: The false flag terrorist attack happened in Israel.

𝐎𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟖: Half of MAGA/conservatives went from no more wars to we must obliterate Palestine.

Seems… pic.twitter.com/UGVJYE8L4J

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) October 12, 2023

If Israel blows the crap out of Gaza, anybody still there will be pissed off at Israel. In the old days, anybody left would be killed or slaved. We don't do that anymore. It's going to take a Japan style occupation. Unlike Iraq, Israel shouldn't fire the Hamas military and leave them on their own to insurgence. Give them jobs and funding to rebuild with a watchful eye.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Israel doesn't want to expel them from Gaza. It wants them to stay there and be peaceful neighbors, if they are willing to do so. It wants to expel the Hamas ideology from Gaza.

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In a perfect world that would happen. However if the people in Gaza and the West Bank remain where they are they will always try to "reclaim" the land that they think was taken from them. You can get rid of Hammas but another organization with the same goals will take its place.

There are only two solutions, both Israel can't do without significant cooperation from the international community and/or without gaining long-term international scorn.

1. Relocate the Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza and repopulate those areas with Jews. Countries aren't going to sign up for taking millions of people so that Israel can repopulate.

2.Outlaw any mention of Palestine, annex the West Bank/Gaza, and force a culture change. This solution would take many years and would encounter a lot of resistance, but over the course of a couple generations it would be successful. However the scorn from the international community would be intense as a forced culture change doesn't sit right in a post-modern world.

eric76 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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No one wants them and for good reason.

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That's what I understand.

Nobody wants them and nobody really wants to go to war to help them.

Some time after Obama was elected, he went on a state visit to Saudi Arabia and met with the King of Saudi Arabia. When they sat down for a talk about Saudi Arabia's issues, Obama just wanted to talk about the Palestinians. The King of Saudi Arabia was reported taken by surprise because Palestinian issues were far down his list of concerns and he couldn't understand how a President of the United States could be so ignorant about the Middle East to think that they were of any real concern.

At least, that's the way I remember it.

While the other countries in the Middle East may give them lip service, they really aren't that much of a concern to them. None of them are going to want the Palestinians to become refugees in their countries.

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Yep, most Americans don't understand how the ME works at all. It was actually something Trump understood very well to his credit and I think DeSantis also does. Trump was probably a little too Pro Saudi, DeSantis is on the edge of too Pro Israel. They are the best options in terms of countries to have as allies in the region but make no mistake, both of them will always put their own interests first just like most countries not called the US (so many Americans are so naive and arrogant they can't understand this).

The Palestinians are the lowest tier among Arabs and Arabs are fundamentally tribal and have a very different value set than we do. I was actually watching "Lawrence of Arabia" the other night again and it unintentionally expresses this very well if unintentionally so. I would encourage people to watch it and think in terms of how the region operated prior to oil being discovered and as the Colonial period was coming to an end. There is very much of a ranking order among tribes and in general they hate each other and love to fight, they certainly don't give a damn about another tribe being killed unless it benefits or hurts them in some way. There is no magic solution that will fix it in more than a temporary way.

It would be foolhardy to allow them to reoccupy Gaza. It needs to be a part of Israel and defended as such by Israel.

The overwhelming majority of the people that lived in Gaza were programmed from birth to hate Israel and Jews and by association America and Americans. They aren't going to change.

rednecked said:

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lot's of space in Antarctica. Seems like no one would mind if they made some of it their homeland

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The penguins will mind.

They could do it in the not jackass way of getting an education, jetting a job or creating a business, and buying their way back into a part of "Palestine". But that takes actual effort and planning and work and is constructive instead of destructive.

With their benefactors - Iran

BonfireNerd04 said:

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Where should they be resettled? Egypt is closest, but is refusing refugees due to "security concerns" (and they're not wrong).

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I believe the issues with Egypt run a bit deeper than just not wanting the refugees. In the minds of Islam, all Muslims are most certainly not created equally.

aggie93 said:

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Yep, most Americans don't understand how the ME works at all. It was actually something Trump understood very well to his credit and I think DeSantis also does. Trump was probably a little too Pro Saudi, DeSantis is on the edge of too Pro Israel. They are the best options in terms of countries to have as allies in the region but make no mistake, both of them will always put their own interests first just like most countries not called the US (so many Americans are so naive and arrogant they can't understand this).

The Palestinians are the lowest tier among Arabs and Arabs are fundamentally tribal and have a very different value set than we do. I was actually watching "Lawrence of Arabia" the other night again and it unintentionally expresses this very well if unintentionally so. I would encourage people to watch it and think in terms of how the region operated prior to oil being discovered and as the Colonial period was coming to an end. There is very much of a ranking order among tribes and in general they hate each other and love to fight, they certainly don't give a damn about another tribe being killed unless it benefits or hurts them in some way. There is no magic solution that will fix it in more than a temporary way.

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Very good observations and information in your post and agree with the overall takes.

The nomadic tribal nature of the peoples of the region and even extending into Central Asia makes permanent solutions an ongoing, permanent problem.

The Brits deserve a lot of credit for the lingering effects of the colonialism, folks like Lawrence of Arabia and a drawing of maps / borders with little regard to the peoples within those countries.

samurai_science said:

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UTExan said:

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Cleansing the area of Hamas and insisting on a new democratic process would help. The more peace there is, the more trade and employment opportunities you have in Israel. Put monsters in power again? No food, fuel, water, etc.

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That has never worked, it was tried

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Rule of Acquisition #34: War is good for business
Rule of Acquisition #35: Peace is good for business

Iran is the answer to their resettlement.

texag84 said:

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Iran is the answer to their resettlement.

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Ideally yes, realistically no. Look at a map. To get to Iran you have to go through Jordan or Syria and then Iraq to get to Iran. I mean I guess you would try a mass shipping of people but Egypt isn't likely to let you go through the Suez so you would have to go to the Gulf of Aqaba. No easy path and you have to get the other Arab countries to cooperate.

Of course fundamentally Iran is Shia and Palestine is Sunni and they don't get along either. Persians think of Arabs as beneath them and Palestinians are the lowest of the Arabs.

Theoretically you could force it but that's all, theoretically. Iran is using the Palestinians because its cheap to do so and relatively low risk. They know it is unlikely anyone has the balls to attack Iran proper, unless your name is Alexander that's unlikely to go well for you.

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suburban cowboy said:

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Kill em all.

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I agree except you should have stopped here.

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Sounds more like the Mad King in Game of Thrones.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Send them to purgatory and let God and Satan sort it all out.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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rednecked said:

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lot's of space in Antarctica. Seems like no one would mind if they made some of it their homeland

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The penguins will mind.

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Abbot is organizing flights to NYC as we speak

Dan Scott said:

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If Israel blows the crap out of Gaza, anybody still there will be pissed off at Israel. In the old days, anybody left would be killed or slaved. We don't do that anymore. It's going to take a Japan style occupation. Unlike Iraq, Israel shouldn't fire the Hamas military and leave them on their own to insurgence. Give them jobs and funding to rebuild with a watchful eye.

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I think you missed the part where Israel said they are going to eradicate Hamas. That doesn't mean people who have been brainwashed from birth to hate Jews to the point of wanting to kill them all should be left to do anything post-annihilation. Every member of Hamas should be put to the sword. You think you can rehabilitate them? Your take is very nave and dangerous.

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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This is a tough take, but not all Palestinians are Muslim. Some are Christian. This complicates the issue but a blanket order is not that great. I would hope their security forces have backgrounds on everyone, but who knows.

Something like 59% of Palestinians voted for Hamas. Just like not everyone voted for Biden, can't paint a wide brush. This is on Israel to sort out, and it's clear Egypt doesn't trust them. But can't sweep everyone out. Because of where we are as a nation.

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There are very few Christians in Palestine. Unfortunately any way you slice it a lot of innocent people are caught in the crossfire of this and that's the choice of Hamas and the Palestinians. Israel has to do whatever it needs to do.

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there are more Arab Christians inside Israel today than there are Christians in Gaza.

if you were Christian- would you want to live under Hamas?!?!

Hell

annie88 said:

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Something like 59% of Palestinians voted for Hamas.

They vote for Hamas?

I am not versed in Palestinian affairs. How does this work? You vote for terrorists?

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hamas is a political party with a militant wing. Think Nazis and brown shirts. hamas runs the gaza strip, while the West Bank is controlled by a different and more moderate palestinian party, Fatah. Fatah technically won the last election, but hamas wouldn't recognize them and essentially usurped gaza where they had majority support.

Donghorn said:

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𝐎𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟔: Hilary Clinton says Trump “cult members” need to be “formally deprogrammed.”

𝐎𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟕: The false flag terrorist attack happened in Israel.

𝐎𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟖: Half of MAGA/conservatives went from no more wars to we must obliterate Palestine.

Seems… pic.twitter.com/UGVJYE8L4J

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) October 12, 2023

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False flag?

And every conservative I know is saying THEY should respond harshly to Palestine. Not that WE should do anything.

What a dumbass tweet. You posted that in mocking fashion right? To show us what braindead idiocy is out there floatin around?

mjschiller said:

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Iran and Lebanon

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That just kicks the can down the road. Then you move Hamas from Israel's southern border to their northern.

All human life has value.

All human life can be redeemed.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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rednecked said:

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lot's of space in Antarctica. Seems like no one would mind if they made some of it their homeland

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The penguins will mind.

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Polar bears won't......