A large part of Lebanon would prefer Hezbollah be gone as well.flakrat said:TexAgBolter said:
Israel may have just completely decapitated Hezbollah in Beirut just now….Looks like up to 10 bunker busters slamming an area.The Israel Defense Force is said to be conducting an Assessment to determine if Hezbollah Secretary-General, Hassan Nasrallah and the remainder of Hezbollah’s High Command Structure was Eliminated in the Precision-Strikes on the Dahieh Suburb of Beirut.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2024
The Mossad must have some serious badasses embedded in Lebanon sending the intelligence back to the IDF
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I'm thinking that the Hezbollah guys are really unhappy with the Hamas guys. They may have thought this was great for a day or so, but the ones left alive cannot be happy.
Given the timeline and no proof of life, I agree they got him.
I'd say Hamas has the bigger beef since the plan apparently was originally for Hez to attack from the north to make Israel split their forces and take some of the pressure off Hamas. Instead, when Hez saw how pissed off the Israelis were after the unexpectedly large success (from the Hamas viewpoint) of Oct 7, all they have done is periodically lob rockets into Israel.Mathguy64 said:
I'm thinking that the Hezbollah guys are really unhappy with the Hamas guys. They may have thought this was great for a day or so, but the ones left alive cannot be happy.
Israeli Sources have confirmed that besides Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah, several other Senior Hezbollah Leaders as well as a Group of Advisors from the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRCG) were inside the Command Bunker when it was Targeted. With all…
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2024
Looks like the gang had a blast together at HQ tonight.
Tons of Secondary Explosions and the Sound of Rockets/Missiles Cooking-Off can be heard, following the Israeli Airstrikes against Hezbollah’s Anti-Ship Missile Array in the Suburbs of Beirut. pic.twitter.com/B1B9kiFqD8
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2024
Hezbollah is Iran's prized jewel in the Middle East. They've been funding, building, growing the organization since the 70s. It is the most powerful non-state militia in the world. It is the primary way Iran projects power against Israel and a cornerstone of their geopolitical posture.
Iranian leaders are panicking right now. I have to think this is going to spark a major retaliatory move. But what this looks like I'm not sure.
Hezbollah has taken some huge losses in C&C, mid-level, and upper-level leadership over the last two weeks. They weren't handing out the encrypted pagers to the underlings. These were unit commanders, missile squad leaders, engineers, organizers...people you need for the military to function. Those guys aren't replaceable overnight.
Hezbollah's ability to project power in an organized way may be done.
Iranian leaders are panicking right now. I have to think this is going to spark a major retaliatory move. But what this looks like I'm not sure.
Hezbollah has taken some huge losses in C&C, mid-level, and upper-level leadership over the last two weeks. They weren't handing out the encrypted pagers to the underlings. These were unit commanders, missile squad leaders, engineers, organizers...people you need for the military to function. Those guys aren't replaceable overnight.
Hezbollah's ability to project power in an organized way may be done.
I'm not sure that was really ever the plan.
Hamas is considered expendable by Hezbollah and Iran. They view them as backwater nobodies. Wouldn't shock me if it was a planned double-cross all along.
I think the goal was to provoke the massive Israeli response and do their psyops stuff to try to garner support for the "Palestinian cause." The Israeli response has made it difficult for Israel to continue normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia and definitely impairs their ability to normalize with Turkey. Cooperation between the Turks, Saudis, and Israelis would be the end of Iran's power influence in the ME.
Hamas is considered expendable by Hezbollah and Iran. They view them as backwater nobodies. Wouldn't shock me if it was a planned double-cross all along.
I think the goal was to provoke the massive Israeli response and do their psyops stuff to try to garner support for the "Palestinian cause." The Israeli response has made it difficult for Israel to continue normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia and definitely impairs their ability to normalize with Turkey. Cooperation between the Turks, Saudis, and Israelis would be the end of Iran's power influence in the ME.
FriscoKid said:Israeli Sources have confirmed that besides Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah, several other Senior Hezbollah Leaders as well as a Group of Advisors from the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRCG) were inside the Command Bunker when it was Targeted. With all…
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2024
Looks like the gang had a blast together at HQ tonight.
No wonder the ayatollah called an emergency meeting after the strike. Looks like they lost a significant number of their best republican goon guard advisors. Whatever evil they had/were planning isn't happening in its originally envisioned form for a long, long time (if ever). And they're probably not done with their losses because you know the Mossad has accumulated a nice little shopping list of hezbollah & iranian advisors to eliminate.
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And the reason so many were in the bunker was nobody trusted their cell phones anymore…
AtticusMatlock said:
I'm not sure that was really ever the plan.
Hamas is considered expendable by Hezbollah and Iran. They view them as backwater nobodies. Wouldn't shock me if it was a planned double-cross all along.
I think the goal was to provoke the massive Israeli response and do their psyops stuff to try to garner support for the "Palestinian cause." The Israeli response has made it difficult for Israel to continue normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia and definitely impairs their ability to normalize with Turkey. Cooperation between the Turks, Saudis, and Israelis would be the end of Iran's power influence in the ME.
Yep. Hamas is basically a Muslim Brotherhood franchise (Sunni) while Hezbollah is majority Shia and identifies with Shia Iran. Just temporarily useful tools to be expended in battle, bleeding Israel of blood and treasure.
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News Channels are Live Broadcasting the Extensive Israeli Strikes tonight against the Lebanese Capital of Beirut, it feels like Baghdad in 2003 all over again. pic.twitter.com/ggToVThWOX
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2024
Multiple Large Secondary Explosions seen, following an Israeli Airstrike several minutes before on what was likely a Missile Storage Site within the City of Choueifat just to the South of Beirut. pic.twitter.com/jIWk1pB39b
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2024
Insane Footage showing one of the Israeli Airstrike earlier on the Southern Suburbs of Beirut, causing a Massive Explosion. pic.twitter.com/2m9Yvu0kU8
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 27, 2024
Reuters livestream of Beirut (because it is live you won't see a Youtube preview, just the link):
https://www.youtube.com/live/8JQd0eM_M2Q?si=xpSFOEpJjPNz4Lg2
https://www.youtube.com/live/8JQd0eM_M2Q?si=xpSFOEpJjPNz4Lg2
Agreed. The backbone of the organization, young men in the 80s who kicked it all off, are nearly all gone now i would assume. They built it and who can carry it on? Given how Israel continues to hit targets (senior, junior, caches, comms, etc) makes me wonder if Hezbollah is truly compromised, with no means of secure communications to boot. Isreal won't kill them all, but this may create a power vacuum for another org or leader to fill.
Makes me think of the nursery rhyme Three Blind Mice.
Makes me think of the nursery rhyme Three Blind Mice.
Camera's on Beirut.
Hezbollah is only as united as Iran makes them. A lot of the Iranian handlers are now dead, too. Looking at a real possibility of a civil war within the ranks of Hez to assert control over the org or whatever is left of it. Iran would have to get involved to pick their preferred winner.
Would not shock me to see some faction of Hezbollah begin to denounce Iran and do their own thing.
Would not shock me to see some faction of Hezbollah begin to denounce Iran and do their own thing.
bthotugigem05 said:
And the reason so many were in the bunker was nobody trusted their cell phones anymore…
Very important point. Israel truly is putting on a masterclass!
The Israel Defense Force has announced that following Precise Intelligence which had been received, Aircraft of the Israeli Air Force are conducted Widespread Strikes against Hezbollah Targets across Beirut, including Weapons Production Sites, Buildings used for the Storage of…
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 28, 2024
Live feed is still showing explosions. Israel has targeted a significant number of weapons storage and launch sites including anti-ship and ballistic missile storage areas. Secondary cook-offs on almost every strike I've seen which generally indicates they've hit the target.
According to the New York Times, the Initial Assessment by Israeli Intelligence Agencies’ is that Hezbollah Secretary-General, Hassan Nasrallah was Eliminated by the Precision-Strike earlier today against Hezbollah’s Central Command Bunker in the Dahieh Suburb of Southern Beirut.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 28, 2024
The lack of Hezbollah response so far is stunning. At this stage we were supposed to be deep into heavy missile barrages on central Israel. Maybe this will come later, but Hezbollah's ability to deter Israel from attacking Beirut is completely gone. https://t.co/DlBps5J92p
— Israel Radar (@IsraelRadar_com) September 28, 2024
This is the most glaring thing to me as well. Hezbollah hasn't even taken a shot at Israel tonight. Nothing.
There may not be anyone left to say "fire". And they certainly don't have a way to pass the command down anyway.
Would love it to be confirmed that Nasrallah is in hell right now, but news is kind of 50/50. Seems likely that he's dead and Iran is putting out fake news to regather but who knows.
Rest of the Arab world seems pretty excited that he might be gone.
Rest of the Arab world seems pretty excited that he might be gone.
AtticusMatlock said:The lack of Hezbollah response so far is stunning. At this stage we were supposed to be deep into heavy missile barrages on central Israel. Maybe this will come later, but Hezbollah's ability to deter Israel from attacking Beirut is completely gone. https://t.co/DlBps5J92p
— Israel Radar (@IsraelRadar_com) September 28, 2024
This is the most glaring thing to me as well. Hezbollah hasn't even taken a shot at Israel tonight. Nothing.
Nobody is left with any fingers to push the fire button
Israel seems to know quite a bit of intelligence in terms of their weapons storage sites, many of which seem to be residential buildings. They are now doing what they did in Gaza and are directly contacting residents an hour ahead of a strike to tell them to evacuate. They wait an hour and then one boo. followed by a ton of secondaries going off.
I think right now, all those players are just playing STFU or giving some lip service to BAD ISRAEL because they ALL want Hamas and Hezbollah go away. And that would help end Iran's power influence in the ME.AtticusMatlock said:
I'm not sure that was really ever the plan.
Hamas is considered expendable by Hezbollah and Iran. They view them as backwater nobodies. Wouldn't shock me if it was a planned double-cross all along.
I think the goal was to provoke the massive Israeli response and do their psyops stuff to try to garner support for the "Palestinian cause." The Israeli response has made it difficult for Israel to continue normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia and definitely impairs their ability to normalize with Turkey. Cooperation between the Turks, Saudis, and Israelis would be the end of Iran's power influence in the ME.
They're letting Israel be the "bad guy".
Then...after a period of time they start to PUBLICLY reengage.
AtticusMatlock said:
Israel seems to know quite a bit of intelligence in terms of their weapons storage sites, many of which seem to be residential buildings. They are now doing what they did in Gaza and are directly contacting residents an hour ahead of a strike to tell them to evacuate. They wait an hour and then one boo. followed by a ton of secondaries going off.
I suspect they have a lot more intelligence on Hezbollah. The Lebanese are probably all on the payroll of the IDF.
The biggest tell is the lack of comment by anyone in Hezbollah. Iran calling the emergency meeting and putting out a statement using the term "martyrs" is also a tell.
Every other time Israel has launched any sort of significant strike, Hezbollah will launch a drone or some rocket or some other thing. Not today.
Live feed is still full of secondaries going off.
Every other time Israel has launched any sort of significant strike, Hezbollah will launch a drone or some rocket or some other thing. Not today.
Live feed is still full of secondaries going off.
Israel did the equivalent of Walter white killing a dozen witnesses in 3 minutes. Hope they kill more from that 'religion'
Whatever Israel hit 1.5 hours ago is still burning and cooking off.
Brother Shamus said:
Israel did the equivalent of Walter white killing a dozen witnesses in 3 minutes. Hope they kill more from that 'religion'
What's crazy is the speed, breadth and depth (no pun intended of this effort is so astounding that's one would think they had a mole or moles at the highest level. Or the ayatollah gave them up.
What isreal is doing now is what i expected on 9/12/01. They are now watching the survivors run and hunting them down. With speed, crazy speed. And precision - they are denying H of any claims of dead innocent women children en masse. Granted there are losses, but this is lightyears ahead of previous engagements.
Israel might as well be poop-slapping Hezbollah leaders to death at this point.
We should be taking notes on how to deal with terrorists that threaten you.
We should be taking notes on how to deal with terrorists that threaten you.
Iran needs to be put out of business for good; they are a big supplier of weaponry to the Putin special operation
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