DRUZE Soldiers of the IDF pledging to take down Hamas. The Druze are very loyal to whichever country they live in.

Love these guys! #druze4Jews https://t.co/GLMtntP1Ep

— Henshi (@HenshiG) February 20, 2024

Pallywood can't stop Pallywooding. Leave the poor girl alone.

Videos courtesy of @GAZAWOOD1 pic.twitter.com/84UjJVGzTk

— The Mossad: Satirical, Yet Awesome (@TheMossadIL) February 20, 2024

The IDF last week withdrew its last reserve brigade from the Gaza Strip, the 646th Brigade, as the military nears the end of its offensive in Khan Younis.

Troops of the reserve paratroopers brigade first operated in central Gaza and then in Khan Younis in the past months,… pic.twitter.com/3KogMf6hdN

— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) February 20, 2024

Even as this White House vetoes a UN resolution to save Hamas from the consequences of its actions...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-un-security-council-votes-on-new-gaza-cease-fire-resolution-u-s-promises-to-veto

...they are drafting a resolution of their own to give Sinwar and his Palestinian buddies a break they do not merit.

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In a tough message to Israel, the U.S. draft resolution says Israel's planned major ground offensive in Rafah "should not proceed under current circumstances." And it warns that further displacement of civilians, "including potentially into neighboring countries," a reference to Egypt, would have serious implications for regional peace and security.

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So Yusuf al-Amriki, patron saint of Islamo-Fascists throughout the world, now wants to do for Hamas what he's done for the Taliban and Iran.

Yeah Oldfinger, you can try and save them...once Israel is done exterminating them.

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Hamas is against a two state solution too.

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This is the part that the terrorist sympathizers just can't understand….or worse they do and accept it.

⚠️Sadistic animals 🇵🇸
WARNING: A detailed initial report has been released on the intense sexual violence, mutilations and rape carried out by Palestinians on October 7.. It is even more sadistic than we feared.

“Many rape incidents occurred collectively, with collaboration… pic.twitter.com/kWHSropxeq

— Ron M. (@Jewtastic) February 21, 2024

Protests against Hamas appear to be spreading to the northern Gaza Strip. "O Sinwar O Haniyeh. The people are the victims. Down with Hamas." pic.twitter.com/Rh8WYjKve6

— Joe Truzman (@JoeTruzman) February 20, 2024

I think this threads the needle as far as security concerns, not wanting to directly manage Gaza, and is vague enough to leave Bibi room to maneuver. I like the idea of buffer zones between Gaza and Egypt/Israel. Egypt will likely fuss, but the buffer would be inside Gaza and secretly they probably want the increased security too given their own problems in the Sinai with militants.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/02/23/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news/netanyahus-postwar-plans-for-gaza-are-at-odds-with-some-allies-positions?smid=url-share

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel released on Friday his most detailed vision yet for a postwar Gaza, pledging to retain indefinite military control over the enclave while ceding the administration of civilian life to Gazans without links to Hamas.
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Mr. Netanyahu's document is in effect a position paper that would need to be adopted by the government, though there is no timeline yet for such discussions.

It envisions the creation of an Israeli-controlled buffer zone along the length of Gaza's border with Egypt, a move that risks inflaming tensions with the Egyptian government.
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The plan also says Israel will seek to retain control over a sliver of land inside Gaza along the Israeli border, where its military is systematically demolishing thousands of buildings in order to create another buffer zone. Israel's intention is to make it harder for militants in Gaza to repeat a raid like that of Oct. 7, in which Israeli officials say some 1,200 people were killed, although the United States and others have spoken out against any effort to reduce the size of Gaza.
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Other parts of the plan include:

• Handing administrative control to "local stakeholders with managerial experience" who are "not affiliated with countries or entities that support terrorism." . . .
• The dismantling of UNRWA, the main U.N. agency operating in Gaza. Israel has accused 30 UNRWA workers of participating in the Oct. 7 attack. . . .
• The overhaul of the Gazan education and welfare systems. Israel says schools and other public institutions in Gaza foment extremism.
• Opposing foreign recognition of a Palestinian state. . . .

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/02/23/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news/palestinians-denounce-netanyahus-plan-which-draws-only-a-muted-reaction-in-israel?smid=url-share

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's first detailed postwar plan for Gaza was carefully written to postpone long-term decisions about the territory's fate and to avoid irreversible confrontations with both domestic allies and foreign partners, analysts said.

Mr. Netanyahu's position paper, released on Friday, said Israel would retain indefinite military control over the enclave while ceding the administration of civilian life to Gazans without links to Hamas.
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To satisfy mainstream Israeli opinion, Mr. Netanyahu said he wanted to retain military control of both Gaza and the West Bank; subcontract the management of civilian affairs to Gazan administrators; and retain control of buffer zones lining Gaza's borders with Egypt and Israel.
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"It doesn't ruin anyone's plan," said Nadav Strauchler, a political analyst and former strategist for Mr. Netanyahu. "It leaves a lot of options open and postpones a lot of decisions."

"He is treading a thin line," said Mr. Strauchler. "Think how many different eyes and audiences are reading this paper with different glasses."

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The buffer zone should be W/2 & L/2 where W = width of gaza and L= length of gaza.

Let the Palestinians go and live in a true country of Islam and then let them decide how bad they had it with Israel.

More Pallywood lies and propaganda

This is quite disturbing to watch EVEN when you know it's FAKE
This is top level Pallywood production
The babies look EXTREMELY real
But in the end, they over do it and the truth comes out
Source: @GAZAWOOD1 pic.twitter.com/17q7UAJtqS

— Hamas Atrocities (@HamasAtrocities) February 27, 2024

The IDF releases new footage of the Commando Brigade's Maglan unit operating in the western Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip.

The IDF says the commandos are raiding Hamas sites in the area and killing dozens of operatives each day, including in close-quarters combat,… pic.twitter.com/OW6Hc5xCWm

— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) February 27, 2024

Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Hamas thought Hezbollah was going to join in and meet them in the middle.

Meanwhile in Brazil, a massive pro-Bolsonaro, pro-Israel rally was held recently which drew an estimated 185,000 with Bolsonaro waving an Israeli flag. The Brazilian public's support for Israel is close to 80% while the leftist President Lula de Silva is a hard core pro-Palestinian along with his wife and advisors. Not surprising since he cozies up to Iran.

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Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Musa Abu Marzouk admitted they were taken by surprise over Israel's counter-attack into the Gaza Strip

they thought they would be safe in the tunnels and not have to worry about a ground invasion, and also that Hizbullah would join in an attack from the North into the Galilee

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ShaggySLC said:

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Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Musa Abu Marzouk admitted they were taken by surprise over Israel's counter-attack into the Gaza Strip

they thought they would be safe in the tunnels and not have to worry about a ground invasion, and also that Hizbullah would join in an attack from the North into the Galilee

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Hezbullah seem to have saw how hard Israel was going and thought no thank you. Imagine being in one of those tunnels right now knowing you raped and murdered innocent women, thinking you had support and now you're just waiting until it's your turn to be erased from the planet by the jews you hate. Unreal miscalculation. I hope they suffer until the very end.

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Yeah, despite the joke I made earlier about Hamas wanting to meet Hezbollah in the middle, I think the attack was also much more successful than Hamas was expecting. I suspect they were hoping for a few dozen dead Israelis and a dozen or so hostages to use for prisoner exchanges. When they were wildly more successful than expected and dumb enough to broadcast their brutality live to the world, it put Hezbollah on their heels. They knew there was no way Israel was going to just mend the fences and lob a few guided missiles at rocket launchers. Iran also knew that if Hezbollah went hard after Israel, that Israel was likely to go hard after Iran at home.

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ShaggySLC said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Musa Abu Marzouk admitted they were taken by surprise over Israel's counter-attack into the Gaza Strip

they thought they would be safe in the tunnels and not have to worry about a ground invasion, and also that Hizbullah would join in an attack from the North into the Galilee

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Hezbullah seem to have saw how hard Israel was going and thought no thank you. Imagine being in one of those tunnels right now knowing you raped and murdered innocent women, thinking you had support and now you're just waiting until it's your turn to be erased from the planet by the jews you hate. Unreal miscalculation. I hope they suffer until the very end.

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Yeah, despite the joke I made earlier about Hamas wanting to meet Hezbollah in the middle, I think the attack was also much more successful than Hamas was expecting. I suspect they were hoping for a few dozen dead Israelis and a dozen or so hostages to use for prisoner exchanges. When they were wildly more successful than expected and dumb enough to broadcast their brutality live to the world, it put Hezbollah on their heels. They knew there was no way Israel was going to just mend the fences and lob a few guided missiles at rocket launchers. Iran also knew that if Hezbollah went hard after Israel, that Israel was likely to go hard after Iran at home.

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That makes the most sense to me. But it also makes me wonder why they were so successful. Really looks like someone failed on purpose in Israel.

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Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Musa Abu Marzouk admitted they were taken by surprise over Israel's counter-attack into the Gaza Strip

they thought they would be safe in the tunnels and not have to worry about a ground invasion, and also that Hizbullah would join in an attack from the North into the Galilee

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Hezbullah seem to have saw how hard Israel was going and thought no thank you. Imagine being in one of those tunnels right now knowing you raped and murdered innocent women, thinking you had support and now you're just waiting until it's your turn to be erased from the planet by the jews you hate. Unreal miscalculation. I hope they suffer until the very end.

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Yeah, despite the joke I made earlier about Hamas wanting to meet Hezbollah in the middle, I think the attack was also much more successful than Hamas was expecting. I suspect they were hoping for a few dozen dead Israelis and a dozen or so hostages to use for prisoner exchanges. When they were wildly more successful than expected and dumb enough to broadcast their brutality live to the world, it put Hezbollah on their heels. They knew there was no way Israel was going to just mend the fences and lob a few guided missiles at rocket launchers. Iran also knew that if Hezbollah went hard after Israel, that Israel was likely to go hard after Iran at home.

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That makes the most sense to me. But it also makes me wonder why they were so successful. Really looks like someone failed on purpose in Israel.

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I was waiting for someone to blame Israel for the rape, torture, and murder of….Israel.

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Who blamed anyone? No clue what was relayed to Israel or what Israel knew themselves. Just commenting on what it looks like. Israel will eventually roll someone in their government for not stopping it when the war is over imo.

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Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Musa Abu Marzouk admitted they were taken by surprise over Israel's counter-attack into the Gaza Strip

they thought they would be safe in the tunnels and not have to worry about a ground invasion, and also that Hizbullah would join in an attack from the North into the Galilee

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Hezbullah seem to have saw how hard Israel was going and thought no thank you. Imagine being in one of those tunnels right now knowing you raped and murdered innocent women, thinking you had support and now you're just waiting until it's your turn to be erased from the planet by the jews you hate. Unreal miscalculation. I hope they suffer until the very end.

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Yeah, despite the joke I made earlier about Hamas wanting to meet Hezbollah in the middle, I think the attack was also much more successful than Hamas was expecting. I suspect they were hoping for a few dozen dead Israelis and a dozen or so hostages to use for prisoner exchanges. When they were wildly more successful than expected and dumb enough to broadcast their brutality live to the world, it put Hezbollah on their heels. They knew there was no way Israel was going to just mend the fences and lob a few guided missiles at rocket launchers. Iran also knew that if Hezbollah went hard after Israel, that Israel was likely to go hard after Iran at home.

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that's not correct

they knew they would be successful and actually had plans for MORE attacks and a further incursion into Israel up to the city of Ashkelon which is hundreds of thousands of people.

They also had plans to penetrate into Yad Mordechai to the North.

all these documents have been found and captured on their computers-

they launched over 3000 Nukhba and Hamas terrorists against 20 towns and villages and cities hoping to murder thousands

they had detailed maps of each house, how many dogs they had, and the order to murder the families.

if anything they were surprised that they suffered 1000 dead terrorists on 7 October and didn't make it to Ashkelon and penetrate much into Sderot.

Yad Mordechai and Ashkelon

Hamas supporters: "Israel commits genocide by not letting in aid trucks!"

also Hamas supporters: "Israel commits massacres by letting in aid trucks!!"

Dozens of Palestinians were killed Thursday in Gaza City as they swarmed aid trucks that entered the city.

Hamas blamed the IDF for the deaths. The military said most of the casualties were caused by a stampede and being run over by the supply vehicles. Gunmen also opened fire in the area as they looted the supplies. However, the army also acknowledged that troops opened fire on several Gazans, who it said were endangering soldiers.

The Hamas-run Gaza health ministry said the death toll reached 107, with hundreds more injured. The figures could not be independently confirmed. The Israel Defense Forces published drone video showing thousands of people swarming around the aid trucks as they reached the area in northern Gaza. In some cases, the vehicles continued to try and push past the crowds.

According to an initial IDF probe of the crush, the vast majority of the casualties were a result of trampling and being struck by the aid trucks.

The incident began at around 4 a.m., when some 30 trucks carrying humanitarian aid arrived at the coast of Gaza City, to deliver food to Palestinians in the Rimal neighborhood.

Thousands of Palestinians rushed the trucks after they passed an IDF checkpoint in central Gaza, leading to a stampede in which dozens of Palestinians were killed and hundreds wounded, some after being run over by the trucks, according to the probe.

The IDF's initial investigation found that some of the trucks managed to continue further north, where armed men reportedly opened fire at the convoy near Rimal and looted it.

Hamas fires on citizens, aid trucks run over Palestinians in mass riot

ShaggySLC said:

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Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Iran was certainly in their ear, and gave them the green light, but the Iranians, like the rest of the Arab world, could give a f#ck about the Palestinians, so when it all went South and Iran knew they were backing a loser and in danger of getting their own teeth kicked in by the IDF/IAF, they cut their losses and told Hezbollah to stand down (by Middle East standards).

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ShaggySLC said:

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Does anyone ever wonder if Hamas thought the reaction would be Gaza and themselves getting completely wiped off the map? Someone had to be in their ear to go through with Oct. 7th.

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Iran was certainly in their ear, and gave them the green light, but the Iranians, like the rest of the Arab world, could give a f#ck about the Palestinians, so when it all went South and Iran knew they were backing a loser and in danger of getting their own teeth kicked in by the IDF/IAF, they cut their losses and told Hezbollah to stand down (by Middle East standards).

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You have to think Hezbollah is thinking about this next Iran tells them to go forward with some attack. I'm actually not sure many would blink if the IDF, finished Hamas and continued with Hezbollah. They've weathered the protest wave in my opinion. Outside the radicals, seems like most people have moved on and really don't care what they do anymore.

Iran is not going to sacrifice Hezbollah. They will throw the Houthis, Iraqi and Syrian militias under the bus all day long. They dgaf about them.

They've invested a lot of real time and money into Hezbollah and need them in the region and functional.

I'm putting this here rather than on the "xiden airdropping supplies" thread since it's about Israel rather than the U.S., even though that thread is the current one for the conflict.

Bridging the gap with Orthodox seems pretty important given the disdain they view each other with in Israeli society.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/04/world/middleeast/israel-haredi-military-service-idf.html

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Gaza War Is Shifting Ties Between Secular and Ultra-Orthodox Israelis

Israel's Haredi minority has long lived apart from the nation's mainstream, but fighting has both widened that divide and in some ways helped to bridge it.
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The Hamas-led attack on Israel last October has prompted flashes of greater solidarity between sections of Israel's ultra-Orthodox Jewish minority and the secular mainstream, as fears of a shared threat have accelerated the integration of some of Israel's most insular citizens.

As Israel's war in Gaza drags on and Israeli reservists are called to serve elongated or additional tours of duty, long-simmering divisions about military exemptions for the country's most religious Jews are again at the center of a national debate.

But now, in the wake of the deadliest day of attacks on Jews since the Holocaust, parts of Israel's rapidly growing community of ultra-Orthodox Jews, known in Hebrew as Haredim, are reconsidering their role in the nation's fabric. Unusually high numbers have expressed support for or interest in military service, according to polling data and military statistics, even as the vast majority of Haredim still hope to retain their exemption.
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Unlike most Israelis, for whom military service is mandatory, Haredim are exempt from conscription to focus on religious study. They also receive substantial state subsidies to maintain an independent education system that eschews math and science for the study of Scripture.
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As the number of ultra-Orthodox Jews has exploded to more than one million people today, roughly 13 percent of Israel's population, from about 40,000 in 1948 those privileges and exemptions have led to resentment from secular Israelis. Many Israelis feel that their own military service and taxes provide both physical protection and financial reward to an underemployed community that gives little in return. Secular efforts to draw the ultra-Orthodox into the army and the work force have angered many Haredim, who see army service as a threat to their lives of religious devotion.
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Polling shows that the Israeli mainstream is keener than ever to force Haredim to enlist, particularly with a growing number of soldiers returning from battle in Gaza and questioning the absence of ultra-Orthodox on the front lines.

But beyond that standoff, some social divides are being bridged rather than widened.
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Yet, more than 2,000 Haredim sought to join the military in the first 10 weeks of the war, a tiny proportion of the serving army but two times the group's annual average. More Arab Israelis join the army than do the ultra-Orthodox.
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Mr. Steinberger's own experiences since the attacks embody much of what is afoot. He is among what some experts call the modern Haredim the estimated 10 percent of the ultra-Orthodox who seek to dovetail their devout lifestyle with the values of modern Israel.
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Unlike most Haredim, he completed a form of army service three years ago; after Oct. 7 he returned to the military as a reservist, helping to run a command center that assisted the air force.
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On a personal level, Mr. Steinberger also felt changed by the war. Twelve weeks of service alongside secular reservists had been a kind of intellectual boot camp. Night after night, he and his fellow soldiers discussed politics and religion, exposing one another to alternative perspectives.

Mr. Steinberger said he emerged more sympathetic to heterodox forms of Judaism and more accepting of the secular campaign to legalize civil marriage.
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Within three days, Ms. Irom said, she had helped set up a network of roughly 1,000 Haredi women to assist the families of reservists who had gone to fight, and Israelis evacuated from their homes. Some volunteers helped with babysitting, others with shopping and other household chores.
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Now, Mr. Goldknopf is prepared to concede that some Haredim can join the army the ones who aren't likely to make it as Torah scholars.

"Those who won't study should go," he said.

"The world stands on three things: Torah, prayer and charity," he said. But, he added, "The reality is that those who don't study can go to the army."

Then he paused the interview to proudly show off a photo of a soldier on his phone.

It was a picture of his nephew.

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BREAKING:

Israel’s army releases a full statement on UNRWA:

"Over 450 @UNRWA employees are military operatives in terror groups in Gaza... This is no mere coincidence, this is systematic” pic.twitter.com/8DZrC3SKsd

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) March 5, 2024