Israel/Hamas going at it

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In reply to LMCane • 3:11p, 11/20/23
LMCane said:
And there are evidently far more Nazis now than there were then.
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In reply to deddog • 3:26p, 11/20/23
That's kinda my point- the tanks reactive armor makes firing the weapon at it less likely to be successful than running up to it and physical placing the round on the tank is. The only effective counter measure to that would be infantry or some other covering support.

But, if this is what hamas is reduced to trying, is it really a big enough threat to expose your infantry to hamas attacks?
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7:18p, 11/20/23
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Hats off to LM Cane for posting all this information daily. The news cycle and people's attention span is short, and the daily reminders here of the attocities that were committed are much appreciated and needed.

The world cannot forget. The enemies of Israel may deny what happened, but their claims ring hollow because the pictures and the videos don't lie.
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 7:30p, 11/20/23
I agree and would add Nortex97. They've both been bringing some good content to this thread lately.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 9:35p, 11/20/23
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Agthatbuilds said:


Lol. If your side being eliminated equals "truce" then yep, your getting closer.
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In reply to Catag94 • 9:40p, 11/20/23
There's multiple reports of a incoming truce, including from the US govt.

It'll be interesting to see what the terms are. I know bibi is getting tons of pressure internally to do more to get the hostages back. I'd imagine any truce would need most or all the hostages released, but the report I saw only mentioned 50.

Regardless, Isreal cannot stop this war until hamas is totally wiped out. They spent too much political capital getting this far and must not stop lest hamas grow even stronger with a renewed backing from international sources, and way more from western countries.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 11:33p, 11/20/23
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I hope Israel's requirement was "give us all the hostages that are alive and the bodies of the ones that are dead and we promise to kill everyone in Hamas quickly and cleanly."
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In reply to Ag with kids • 11:36p, 11/20/23
A truce now would be seen as a win for hamas
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 11:41p, 11/20/23
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Ag87H2O said:
Hats off to LM Cane for posting all this information daily. The news cycle and people's attention span is short, and the daily reminders here of the attocities that were committed are much appreciated and needed.

The world cannot forget. The enemies of Israel may deny what happened, but their claims ring hollow because the pictures and the videos don't lie.
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In reply to RGLAG85 • 4:33a, 11/21/23
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The Islamic State once had a nice publication explaining 'why we hate you.' I think more should read it. This is the fuel as well from Hamas/Palestinian Authority/Iran etc.





We really need to cancel all arms/airliner sales to Qatar and end our relationship with them after this.



Meanwhile, the clean up rolls on;



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5:03a, 11/21/23
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Something about this potential "armistice" seems fishy. Hamas hasn't seemed to have cared much about its women and children, and now they are ready to cease fire just to get back some women and children? Must be other things being discussed.
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In reply to 10andBOUNCE • 7:18a, 11/21/23
From cnn:

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A deal to release hostages taken from Israel by Hamas in exchange for a pause in fighting in Gaza could be announced as soon as today, sources tell CNN. Earlier, a Hamas leader said the group was "close to reaching a truce agreement."
The deal would call for the release of 50 women and children hostages and a four-to-five day pause in fighting. Three Palestinian prisoners in Israel would be freed for every civilian hostage that is released, according to multiple sources


Bibi is getting a lot of pressure about not doing enough to save some of the hostages. I'm sure he feels this "pause" will give Israel some relief from the large amount of pressure being applied by its allies, world orgs and citizens.

However, I think this will only lead to more pressure being applied to stop the fighting altogether.

However, maybe Israel anticipated this, incorporated it into their strategy and feels its at the time where a pause could prove beneficial to them.

Idk, I just think western media and political sources will ramp up the criticism with a pause.
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7:29a, 11/21/23
Why is the hamas guy pictured still alive. Something doesnt.add up.
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7:32a, 11/21/23
The Iranian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah reportedly caused "heavy damage" to an Israeli military base on Monday after it launched a rocket and drone attack at the army base.

The Times of Israel reported that Hezbollah's attacks were launched from "Lebanon at the northern communities of Arab al-Aramshe and Bar'am, as well as the Biranit army base."

No casualties were reported from the strikes but there was heavy damage and a fire that was started from the rocket barrage, the report said.

Hezbollah launched a separate attack later in the day, firing approximately two dozen rockets and three suicide drones, presumably from Iran, at various locations along the Israeli border.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/israeli-military-base-suffers-serious-damage-after-attack-from-iranian-backed-terrorists
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In reply to nortex97 • 7:36a, 11/21/23
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The release of an agreed-upon number of women and children prisoners of the occupation will be matched by the release of women and children from our people in the occupation prisons.
Only one problem...Israel probably doesn't HAVE any women or children of Hamas...They've got a lot of DUDES though.
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7:39a, 11/21/23
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This is stupid. Don't reward hostage taking, unless you want more of it in the future. Consider those hostages all dead.

Edit: I heard of a case where a mafia associate had his kid kidnapped. The mafia instructed the family to not call the police and to never give any ransom. When the police caught wind of the kidnapping and went to the family, they told him "we don't have a son". The kid was unfortunately killed, but when the mafia caught up with the cuplrits, they made him/them pay in the most painful way they could imagine. Sure enough, no more mafia members have had their kids kidnapped.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 7:51a, 11/21/23
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Agthatbuilds said:
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in which Hostages will been Release by Hamas and a set number of Terrorists will be Release from Isreali Prisons
This is actually a plus for Israel.

If they're in Israeli prisons, they can't kill them - THAT would be something that NO COUNTRY would accept from Israel, not even the US.

HowEVER...if they release them into GAZA...and then turn them to red mist. Hey! That's war.
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In reply to nortex97 • 8:33a, 11/21/23
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They would be replaced, but it should be a stated goal with earnest and extreme prejudice to ensure the remaining 13 and their ilk all meet their demise.

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I'm not so sure if the Hamas terrorist prisoners would actually WANT to be released back into Gaza right now...
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In reply to nortex97 • 8:48a, 11/21/23
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nortex97 said:
Dead men (and a woman) walking. For whatever time they have left they will live in the constant fear and the knowledge that their lives are forfeit. In five years or less they'll be in the business of growing daisies.

The Isreali military has a long memory and incredible capability when it comes to making people dead.
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9:00a, 11/21/23
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Israel took decades to find those responsbile for the holocaust and same for the ones responsible for the olympic massacre. With technology they are going after specific soldiers that they know that killed Israelis. Not a group I would want to mess with.
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In reply to P.U.T.U • 9:15a, 11/21/23
Yeah I wouldn't want to be flying a private jet out over the water if I was a Qatari billionaire. Just saying.
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10:14a, 11/21/23
I have yet to see any corroboration regarding the cease-fire/pause. All I can find is there are ongoing discussions. I suspect we are still a long ways from anything of the sort - Israel just wants to give the appearance of being willing to consider it while they take out more terrorists. Smart on their part - it at least takes some degree of pressure off them internaitonally.
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10:28a, 11/21/23
Israeli female soldier Stav Bachar was on duty near Gaza on October 7 and engaged in gun battles with Hamas before being shot in the back. Luckily she has survived and returned to her home today:

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In reply to LMCane • 10:28a, 11/21/23
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LMCane said:
This is heartbreaking.

Screw the cease fire. I hope the Israelis are publicly talking about one as a delaying tactic/smokescreen while they put the pedal to the metal in Gaza and make those scum pay for what they did on October 7th.
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10:29a, 11/21/23
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If this hostage release materializes, I'm seeing if any are strong enough to give the details on the horrors they have endured to show to the ignorant masses and then Israel ramps up again, vaporizes the remaining buildings, infrastructure, and anyone associated with or providing support to hamas.

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