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JobSecurity said:

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U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023

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That's a subtle distinction to let them off the hook.

You fired at us versus you fired in the direction we happened to be sailing in.

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Bingo. If this occurred yesterday (as some sources are saying) there is no way we can't know where they were going at this point. IMO there is no way we don't know where these were going at this point. The report is reading as these missiles were a danger to our assets or assets we were protecting and those missiles were dealt with.

I don't think the Pentagon will actually give a response right now if these were targetted at our ships right now. If they were, expect strikes in Yemen in the somewhat near future. If they weren't, well I'd still expect some strikes to occur. We probably won't know for sure for awhile if ever.

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Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?

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jabberwalkie09 said:

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txags92 said:

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jabberwalkie09 said:

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Mathguy64 said:

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JobSecurity said:

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U.S. Navy Officials have now stated that Interception of Missiles launched from Yemen by the USS Carney occurred last night and that they were not Aimed at the Ship but in a Northward Direction.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 19, 2023

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That's a subtle distinction to let them off the hook.

You fired at us versus you fired in the direction we happened to be sailing in.

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Bingo. If this occurred yesterday (as some sources are saying) there is no way we can't know where they were going at this point. IMO there is no way we don't know where these were going at this point. The report is reading as these missiles were a danger to our assets or assets we were protecting and those missiles were dealt with.

I don't think the Pentagon will actually give a response right now if these were targetted at our ships right now. If they were, expect strikes in Yemen in the somewhat near future. If they weren't, well I'd still expect some strikes to occur. We probably won't know for sure for awhile if ever.

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Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?

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I would suspect they (Iran) would start with Iskander missile copies from the Russians. I can't see them not profiting from the trade to Russia for drones. Using known technology would go a long ways to help them to figure out how to make larger technologies work. Plus I wouldn't doubt that China has been helping them on the side.

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Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?

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Valid theory, IMO.

Is Iran, by proxy, testing their own systems, and at the same time, poking defenses for weaknesses?

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The USS Carney, a U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyer in the northern Red Sea, on Thursday shot down multiple missiles and drones launched by Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen that the Pentagon said were potentially headed toward targets in Israel.
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The ship was in the northern Red Sea on Thursday evening local time when it intercepted three land attack cruise missiles and several drones, Pentagon spokesman Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said at a press briefing. U.S. officials told ABC News that the Carney had brought down eight drones launched by the Houthis.

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txags92 said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Given that Iran just got out from under sanctions on their ballistic missile programs and has been boasting about time running out for Israel, what are the chances these were intermediate range Iranian supplied BMs headed for Israel and the Carney was in the Red Sea shooting them down?

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Valid theory, IMO.

Is Iran, by proxy, testing their own systems, and at the same time, poking defenses for weaknesses?

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Looks like I called it…

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/us-navy-destroyer-red-sea-185700181.html

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The USS Carney, a U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyer in the northern Red Sea, on Thursday shot down multiple missiles and drones launched by Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen that the Pentagon said were potentially headed toward targets in Israel.
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The ship was in the northern Red Sea on Thursday evening local time when it intercepted three land attack cruise missiles and several drones, Pentagon spokesman Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said at a press briefing. U.S. officials told ABC News that the Carney had brought down eight drones launched by the Houthis.

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Map: Drone and rocket attacks by the "Islamic Resistance in Iraq" targeting U.S. military personnel in Iraq and Syria, October 18-19, 2023. pic.twitter.com/1192gwYdhP

— Evan Kohlmann (@IntelTweet) October 20, 2023

2/ The Islamic Resistance of #Iraq fired 3 drones targeting the al Tanf Garrison, #Syria, and 3 drones targeting Conoco Mission Support Site. Iranian-backed Iraqi militias also launched an unspecified number of rockets at US forces at Ain al Asad Airbase, Anbar province, Iraq.

— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) October 20, 2023

4/ The Iranian-backed #Iraqi groups and Houthis are behaving as if the United States has crossed their stated red lines of intervening in the war to support #Israel. https://t.co/JdpPTyDJQC pic.twitter.com/CijdodeP5P

— ISW (@TheStudyofWar) October 20, 2023

It’s almost impossible to watch this whole video without having a physical reaction. https://t.co/xLA5q6Pisv

— Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) October 19, 2023

Footage from earlier showing Artillery Exchanges on the Lebanese Border with Northern Israel. pic.twitter.com/gkowOXgskM

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 20, 2023

A Majority of the Church is reported to have Thankfully not suffered any or Minor Damage.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 20, 2023

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My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...

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I've entertained a similar line of thinking. Putin urges his proxy Iran to stir some stuff up in the ME to distract the West from Ukraine and its military support in that campaign. Iran obliges and reaches out to Hamas to get something cooked up. Hamas goes 9/11 and voila, suddenly all attention, and military support, shifts to the ME. Would definitely help out Putin in his "special military operation" in the area.

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carl spacklers hat said:

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FireAg said:

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My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...

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I've entertained a similar line of thinking. Putin urges his proxy Iran to stir some stuff up in the ME to distract the West from Ukraine and its military support in that campaign. Iran obliges and reaches out to Hamas to get something cooked up. Hamas goes 9/11 and voila, suddenly all attention, and military support, shifts to the ME. Would definitely help out Putin in his "special military operation" in the area.

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I know for a fact that the USG has had to try to determine which defense articles should be shipped to either Ukraine for their war, Israel for their war against Hamas, or held for the US military.

much less if China gets into this.

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JFABNRGR said:

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LMCane said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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FireAg said:

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My gut has told me that Russia worked with Iran to initiate the Hamas attacks, followed by Hezbollah (thus opening two fronts) to force arms shipments to be diverted away from Ukraine and toward Israel...

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I've entertained a similar line of thinking. Putin urges his proxy Iran to stir some stuff up in the ME to distract the West from Ukraine and its military support in that campaign. Iran obliges and reaches out to Hamas to get something cooked up. Hamas goes 9/11 and voila, suddenly all attention, and military support, shifts to the ME. Would definitely help out Putin in his "special military operation" in the area.

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I know for a fact that the USG has had to try to determine which defense articles should be shipped to either Ukraine for their war, Israel for their war against Hamas, or held for the US military.

much less if China gets into this.

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To date Israel has not provided any evidence of russian involvement but has made some pretty damning statements to russia while almost none that I am aware of to Iran as for the future.

Did Iran out russias involvement in this and is it possible Iran did not have as much support in this attack as originally suspected?

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The Israeli Minister of Defense, Yoav Gallant announced the plan for a 3-Phased War against Hamas in the Gaza Strip during a Meeting today consisting of Members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee:

(Current) Phase 1: A Military Campaign by Fire and later by… pic.twitter.com/FAUcabhhFJ

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 20, 2023

The Spokesman for the “Al-Qassam Brigades” of Hamas has claimed that 2 American Hostages, a Mother and her Daughter, have now been Released after Negotiations with Qatar; they further state that the Reason for their Release is to show the American People the “Lies” that have been…

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 20, 2023