Houston Lee said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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Bubblez said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Houston Lee said:

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There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.

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Hammas is not a country. They are a terrorist organization and do not deserve the protections of a traditional war.

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The non-combatant citizens living in that area do.

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You're being intentionally obtuse. The vast, vast majority of "non-combatant citizens" that live in Gaza cheer when Hamas executes, abuses, or kidnaps Israelis, and they also raise their children to be the next generation of Hamas terrorists.

Most are not the innocent civilians you make them out to be. They live there and exist full well knowing that Hamas could lead them straight into justifiable death, yet they continue to support them and call Gaza home.

Israel needs to do whatever it is they deem necessary to take out the threat to their citizens. Period. They have shown great restraint so far in warning citizens of upcoming bombings and giving them time to leave. They have used pinpoint, precision weaponry to avoid civilian casualties. If "civilians" in Gaza suffer or die for the sins of the barbarians they enable and support, it's a reality of war. They are getting a lot better than what they have dished out to the Israelis.

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I don't think anyone is making out the non-combatant civilians to be "innocent". But, if they are not carrying a weapon and/or fighting, they must be treated as a non-combatant. There are rules for treatment of POWs as well.

My first reaction was a desire to wipe them all out and be done with them. Kill them all. But, that is not the rightful course of action. Not every person in Gaza is a terrorist. They may support them, but that does not mean they should be slaughtered.

We support our country. We support our troops. We support our way of life. We teach our children this way of life and love for our country and our ideals. Should our children and other non-military countrymen be slaughtered by our enemies because they might grow up to fight for the USA one day? As a people, we have decided that this line of thinking is wrong.

I want Israel to eliminate all Hammas terrorists or anyone in Gaza that picks up a weapon to kill Israelis. We should not advocate for the slaughter of non-combatants, no matter where or who they are. One day, that non-combatant could be you and your family.

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I'd agree, except for that our country and military etc isn't hellbent on Jewish genocide or genocide of any group. Not sure how you can even attempt to reconcile those 2 things. Does the US do things that sometimes mean collateral damage, unintentionally, for the greater good? Sure, just as Israel does. Nothing Hamas does is for any good of any kind for anyone and thus those who support them are also inherently evil as a result. This isn't hard.

The liberals on this planet and other idiots make it out like Hamas is just carrying out their version of the American revolution. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so terrifying that we live amongst so many ignorant people.

You may want to sit the next couple months (at a minimum) of this conflict out. The images you have in your mind and/or your understanding of the middle east are so far from reality that the coming conflict is going to be particularly traumatic for your psyche.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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I'm convinced that all of these bleeding hearts that want humanitarian aid for Gaza don't give a crap that most of it will end up in Hammas' hands. All they care about is that it's "compassionate" and feels good.

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And 99% probably don't know that it was the Palestinians that turned down the 2-state system 70 yrs ago.

JobSecurity said:

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The Israeli War Cabinet reportedly told U.S. President Biden today during a Meeting that they have now completed their preparations for an Invasion of the Gaza Strip and that a Ground Operation is now “Imminent.”

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 18, 2023

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Isreal to Biden: "You got your photo-op you old coot, now go home so we can do our thing".

evan_aggie said:

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It is likely this was a stray rocket, but does anyone have info on the hospital destruction itself?

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Looks like windows blown out and a fire in their outside courtyard that killed several people and burned up some parked cars.

Not sure anybody inside of the hospital died.

This was 100% a misfired rocket by Hamas or a Hamas aligned group in the barrage that happened just before the explosion.

If Israel was gonna hit this hospital it would've been flattened after giving everybody sufficient notice.

It looks like we have a insurrection protest happening at the Capitol.

JUST IN: The United States Capitol has been taken over inside and outside by pro-Palestine protesters as Rep. Rashida Tlaib spoke with a crowd nearby.

Are we only allowed to call people like this insurrections when they are Donald Trump supporters?

Police are now making… pic.twitter.com/W0rttqIx51

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 18, 2023

Houston Lee said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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Bubblez said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Houston Lee said:

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There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.

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Hammas is not a country. They are a terrorist organization and do not deserve the protections of a traditional war.

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The non-combatant citizens living in that area do.

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You're being intentionally obtuse. The vast, vast majority of "non-combatant citizens" that live in Gaza cheer when Hamas executes, abuses, or kidnaps Israelis, and they also raise their children to be the next generation of Hamas terrorists.

Most are not the innocent civilians you make them out to be. They live there and exist full well knowing that Hamas could lead them straight into justifiable death, yet they continue to support them and call Gaza home.

Israel needs to do whatever it is they deem necessary to take out the threat to their citizens. Period. They have shown great restraint so far in warning citizens of upcoming bombings and giving them time to leave. They have used pinpoint, precision weaponry to avoid civilian casualties. If "civilians" in Gaza suffer or die for the sins of the barbarians they enable and support, it's a reality of war. They are getting a lot better than what they have dished out to the Israelis.

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I don't think anyone is making out the non-combatant civilians to be "innocent". But, if they are not carrying a weapon and/or fighting, they must be treated as a non-combatant. There are rules for treatment of POWs as well.

My first reaction was a desire to wipe them all out and be done with them. Kill them all. But, that is not the rightful course of action. Not every person in Gaza is a terrorist. They may support them, but that does not mean they should be slaughtered.

We support our country. We support our troops. We support our way of life. We teach our children this way of life and love for our country and our ideals. Should our children and other non-military countrymen be slaughtered by our enemies because they might grow up to fight for the USA one day? As a people, we have decided that this line of thinking is wrong.

I want Israel to eliminate all Hammas terrorists or anyone in Gaza that picks up a weapon to kill Israelis. We should not advocate for the slaughter of non-combatants, no matter where or who they are. One day, that non-combatant could be you and your family.

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The difference here is that we are dealing with a terrorist state, not a formal military.

If you watch videos of them attacking Israel, most were wearing a regular attire - t-shirts and pants.

Where your plan unravels is that all they would have to do is drop the gun and then *poof* they are an innocent civilian.

Same thing we dealt with in Afghanistan. Same thing we dealt with in Vietnam. The US can hold that very righteous, very unsuccessful approach to war because our populations are out of harms way - a continent away.

Israel does not have that luxury.

Everyone in Gaza was celebrating 9/11. Everyone is Gaza was celebrating the rape, torture and murder of Israeli citizens.

There is no one innocent in Gaza.

UTExan said:

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The Palestinian Authority is cracking down on protests in the West Bank, shooting a 12 year old girl to death. If the Gaza protests get too much attention, the PLO loses legitimacy. The 12 year old girl's family:

" Translation: "It is with great pride that we mourn our daughter the martyr and child, Razan Attaba Hamidi Nasrallah, who was martyred in defence of religion and in support of our people in Gaza."]

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You simply cannot fight this type of mindset with conventional means.

She was shot down by her own gov't and the parents are proud. It's fanatical devotion that follows no logic, laws, or conventions.

JobSecurity said:

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The Israeli War Cabinet reportedly told U.S. President Biden today during a Meeting that they have now completed their preparations for an Invasion of the Gaza Strip and that a Ground Operation is now “Imminent.”

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 18, 2023

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Israeli leaders to Biden...

Forum Troll said:

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Anyone see this video associated with this article with all the ambulances pulling up to the hospital? There's a dude straddling a "victim" performing CPR as others roll the "victim" into the hospital on the gurney. Someone convince me its not a mannequin. Go to about 0:15 in the video.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/massacre-gaza-takes-stock-deadly-105328510.html

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So they staged an emergency reaction to their own failed rocket launch?

TH36 said:

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When is the last time "Hearts and Minds" won a war? That worked out well for us in Afghanistan….oh wait.

I totally agree with you that you can't go full on extermination like so many of us have suggested or thought about (this thought passes through my head daily) but, if Hamas cut my babies head off…..I'm going scorched earth and taking as many of their people with me. The Jews believe in a eye for an eye and in this case…I believe it's warranted.

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Never.
"Hearts and minds" is for wimpy beta liberals. The world only respects strength. Brute force.
Nothing more nothing else.

When will the world learn that these groups will lie about anything! They will lie using women and children…they will lie about absolutely anything to support their cause. Thats why nobody wants to take them in because they only bring lies and destruction everywhere they go.

TommyBrady said:

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When will the world learn that these groups will lie about anything! They will lie using women and children…they will lie about absolutely anything to support their cause. Thats why nobody wants to take them in because they only bring lies and destruction everywhere they go.

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That group includes the NYT, apparently.

Great point ⬇️ https://t.co/NqBnXnluPF pic.twitter.com/MF18T6jpsi

— Jeryl Bier (@JerylBier) October 18, 2023

Where did that picture come from?

aggiehawg said:

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TommyBrady said:

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When will the world learn that these groups will lie about anything! They will lie using women and children…they will lie about absolutely anything to support their cause. Thats why nobody wants to take them in because they only bring lies and destruction everywhere they go.

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That group includes the NYT, apparently.

Great point ⬇️ https://t.co/NqBnXnluPF pic.twitter.com/MF18T6jpsi

— Jeryl Bier (@JerylBier) October 18, 2023

Where did that picture come from?

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They have been lying since the Holocaust.