Israel/Hamas going at it

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In reply to Rossticus • 12:56p, 10/18/23
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Rossticus said:
When I went to that post, it was just a map. Was it supposed to be something more?
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In reply to Bubblez • 12:56p, 10/18/23
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Bubblez said:
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:
Houston Lee said:
There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.



I wish we had a president and word leaders that told people who think like this to go **** themselves and instead get the job done quick and effectively.
Israel still has plenty of leeway in attacking Hamas where they are in these densely populated areas. If they have to blow up an apartment building, they can, and have been very adept at not only hitting the right building, but the floor they are aiming at.

They do need to secure an area in Gaza to provide this humanitarian aid.



They do not. Egypt needs to offer safe refuge to anyone willing to be strip searched and will swear they won't come back. Aid will be provided then.
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12:57p, 10/18/23
Pretty sure that southern Lebanon going hot is a foregone conclusion at this point.

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In reply to CDUB98 • 12:59p, 10/18/23
That's it. Saw the same format from a few other accounts as well; just posting a map of the area the attacks are originating from. No idea why Xitter is censoring it as "sensitive".
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In reply to Rossticus • 1:03p, 10/18/23
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That's it. Saw the same format from a few other accounts as well; just posting a map of the area the attacks are originating from. No idea why Xitter is censoring it as "sensitive".


They are mostly peaceful rockets adhering to normal humanitarian conventions...at least to some folks on here who have been educated beyond their intelligence.
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1:05p, 10/18/23
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Nice takedown.

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In reply to Houston Lee • 1:08p, 10/18/23
Houston Lee said:
There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.


Hammas is not a country. They are a terrorist organization and do not deserve the protections of a traditional war.
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In reply to CDUB98 • 1:10p, 10/18/23
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CDUB98 said:
Rossticus said:
When I went to that post, it was just a map. Was it supposed to be something more?


The map shows the state of Israel which is inherently offensive to Ivy League students and faculty.
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In reply to J. Walter Weatherman • 1:11p, 10/18/23
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Houston Lee said:
There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.


Hammas is not a country. They are a terrorist organization and do not deserve the protections of a traditional war.
The non-combatant citizens living in that area do.
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In reply to Rossticus • 1:15p, 10/18/23
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How do these morons even get jobs?

They follow the concept of "Al Taqqiyya". Look it up. It means that you can hide, lie etc to protect Islam. So these people are model citizens until they get to a point when they can act up. When incidents like Hamas attacks happen, they are triggered to show their true selves.

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In reply to Bubblez • 1:16p, 10/18/23
Bubblez said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Houston Lee said:
There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.


Hammas is not a country. They are a terrorist organization and do not deserve the protections of a traditional war.
The non-combatant citizens living in that area do.


They've had plenty of time to evacuate. And if Hamas is deciding to use them as shields then they need to blame them and not Israel. Either way, any casualties are 100% the fault of Hamas for starting this.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:16p, 10/18/23
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Nice takedown.



BBC is overrun by Pakistanis. So you know what the narrative will be. BBC and The Guardian newspaper.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 1:16p, 10/18/23
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Just like 9/11, the attack by Hamas itself was not designed to do anything other than elicit the response. Baiting the response is the strategy. Committing the atrocity is the tactic to get there.

Very few around the world faulted the United States in their response in Afghanistan following 9/11, but we let ourselves get into a war frenzy and invaded Iraq for less than reliable reasons. It's that sort of war frenzy mindset that only helps organizations like Hamas and these malicious actors who rely on bad will to be able to recruit.

The whole point of this plot was to bait a response to help turn the clock back on any sort of hope for lasting peace between Israel and the Arab world, sponsored by Iran because a stable and mutually recognized Arab-Israeli world is their worst fear.

They wanted Israel's reaction to be so severe that they would lose support in the Arab world, and it seems to have worked.
It's amazing how many people don't see this.

It's so easy to get lost in the hate.

The other side is Israel lost the equivalent of close to 40,000 Americans. I don't know how you go in with any kind of muted response.
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1:17p, 10/18/23
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1 / US President Joe Biden said during his meeting with the members of the War Cabinet that he understands that the operation in Gaza will be protracted and will take time, according to an Israeli senior official who is aware of the contents of the meeting

2 / Senior Israeli officials stated that Prime Minister Netanyahu, Defense Minister Galant and Minister Benny Gantz told Biden that the move to dismantle Hamas and change the reality in Gaza would be lengthy. "It could take years," Gantz said

3 / Gallant said that the operation in Gaza will be long and difficult and that Israel will need American political support and security assistance for a long period of time

4 / Biden told the members of the War Cabinet that it is important to respond to the humanitarian needs in Gaza in order to preserve the international support that currently exists for the IDF operation
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In reply to DTP02 • 1:18p, 10/18/23
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Pluralizes Everythings said:
ATX_AG_08 said:


Dailywire has a good article on her. She's nuts, and I honestly cannot believe she holds the position she does.


There are several thing which are very striking about this issue:

1) that someone in a position of authority thinks "death to Jews" is acceptable to say. But our culture, and especially the leftists in power (political and economic/technological), have ignored this sentiment being repeated ad nauseam, and even tacitly encouraged it by repeating related talking points, so it's emboldened the hate speech and made people believe that it's an acceptable standard.

2) that our DHS is so inefficient and ineffective that they didn't catch the red flags in this woman's background, or

3) that our DHS knew about her background but somehow didn't consider it a red flag

Truly a crazy story that speaks volumes.


Definitely honed in on 2 & 3. Makes me wonder just how many other potential foreign agents are working in (not for) our govt.

Honestly how does that person clear a background check. I have to assume DHS & the current administration as well as some Republicans knew.

Why she was still selected will never get answered though.
Anyone who chooses to ride a bicycle in the street is a threat to themselves, and others. If a vehicle strikes you accidentally, YOU are at fault; and the laws of physics supercede all else when you're in the path of a 2 ton killing machine. Know your place, stay off the road.
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1:24p, 10/18/23
20-year global war on terror and trillions spent; now we here.
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In reply to Bubblez • 1:27p, 10/18/23
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Bubblez said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Houston Lee said:
There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.


Hammas is not a country. They are a terrorist organization and do not deserve the protections of a traditional war.
The non-combatant citizens living in that area do.
You're being intentionally obtuse. The vast, vast majority of "non-combatant citizens" that live in Gaza cheer when Hamas executes, abuses, or kidnaps Israelis, and they also raise their children to be the next generation of Hamas terrorists.

Most are not the innocent civilians you make them out to be. They live there and exist full well knowing that Hamas could lead them straight into justifiable death, yet they continue to support them and call Gaza home.

Israel needs to do whatever it is they deem necessary to take out the threat to their citizens. Period. They have shown great restraint so far in warning citizens of upcoming bombings and giving them time to leave. They have used pinpoint, precision weaponry to avoid civilian casualties. If "civilians" in Gaza suffer or die for the sins of the barbarians they enable and support, it's a reality of war. They are getting a lot better than what they have dished out to the Israelis.
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In reply to Bubblez • 1:29p, 10/18/23
Bubblez said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Houston Lee said:
There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.


Hammas is not a country. They are a terrorist organization and do not deserve the protections of a traditional war.
The non-combatant citizens living in that area do.

Citizens of what country??

To paraphrase, anyone who runs is Hamas. Anyone who stands still is a well disciplined Hamas.
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In reply to PJYoung • 1:35p, 10/18/23
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Netanyahu' is also going to go down in history as the PM who allowed israel to suffer one of its biggest tragedies. I'm not sure the guy is thinking clearly anymore. He's freaking out because israel blames him for letting this happen.
Thanks and gig'em
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1:37p, 10/18/23
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people like bubblez ("people" used simply to avoid a ban) think that the people who willingly allow hamas to commit terror acts out of their homes and those same "innocent civilians" dance in the streets any time any terror porn comes across the airwaves. I'd suggest that maybe 10% of palestians are "innocent civilans." The rest simply aren't the ones with their finger on the trigger.
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In reply to Houston Lee • 1:37p, 10/18/23
When is the last time "Hearts and Minds" won a war? That worked out well for us in Afghanistan….oh wait.

I totally agree with you that you can't go full on extermination like so many of us have suggested or thought about (this thought passes through my head daily) but, if Hamas cut my babies head off…..I'm going scorched earth and taking as many of their people with me. The Jews believe in a eye for an eye and in this case…I believe it's warranted.
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In reply to zgolfz85 • 1:39p, 10/18/23
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zgolfz85 said:
people like bubblez ("people" used simply to avoid a ban) think that the people who willingly allow hamas to commit terror acts out of their homes and those same "innocent civilians" dance in the streets any time any terror porn comes across the airwaves. I'd suggest that maybe 10% of palestians are "innocent civilans." The rest simply aren't the ones with their finger on the trigger.


I'm guessing these types also consider non-soldier Germans to be "innocent civilians" as well from 1939-45
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1:44p, 10/18/23
I'm convinced that all of these bleeding hearts that want humanitarian aid for Gaza don't give a crap that most of it will end up in Hammas' hands. All they care about is that it's "compassionate" and feels good.
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In reply to Aggie_Journalist • 2:03p, 10/18/23
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What evidence do you have of him not thinking clearly, I certainly haven't noted it yet, unless you are talking entertaining Biden and taking his advice of letting humanitarian aid into Gaza.

What the Israeli people will fire him for and hold over his head for eternity is if he doesn't end this problem decisively now.
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More hospital images consistent with a rocket impact, not a bomb.

"Based on available evidence, it appears the explosion happened in a courtyard which is part of the hospital site. Images of the ground after the blast do not show significant damage to surrounding hospital buildings. What the images do show includes scorch marks and burnt-out cars."

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In reply to Hogties • 2:34p, 10/18/23
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Hogties said:
CDUB98 said:
Rossticus said:
When I went to that post, it was just a map. Was it supposed to be something more?


The map shows the state of Israel which is inherently offensive to Ivy League students and faculty.


AND the red shaded area on the map is shaped like a gun. Like the gun shaped pop-tart the kid eats at school that gets him suspended, the gun shaped map results in a "sensitive content" label.
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2:43p, 10/18/23
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The British Foreign Office advises against all travel to Lebanon
https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/18-october-the-british-foreign-office-advises-against-all
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Iran just blatantly lying.

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2:44p, 10/18/23
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Information and video footage of the hospital explosion is very strange.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67144061?at_campaign=KARANGA&at_medium=RSS

They claimed 500+ dead but the crater and impact in the courtyard shows something more like a rocket strike (crater a couple feet deep?).

The fire and cars in the immediate area is 100 ft in diameter. I don't know how it spread to the hospital structure?

It is likely this was a stray rocket, but does anyone have info on the hospital destruction itself?
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 2:44p, 10/18/23
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Ag87H2O said:
Bubblez said:
J. Walter Weatherman said:
Houston Lee said:
There are rules of war. We and Israel must abide by them. Humanitarian aid is a must. Non-Combatants must be helped if possible. It doesn't matter who they are or which side they support.

Hammas are not abiding by the rules of war and are using our compliance with those rules to hide behind non-combatants. That is unfortunate, but does not allow us or Israel to just throw the rules to the side when it suits us.

Hammas will have to be dealt with within the confines of the rules.


Hammas is not a country. They are a terrorist organization and do not deserve the protections of a traditional war.
The non-combatant citizens living in that area do.
You're being intentionally obtuse. The vast, vast majority of "non-combatant citizens" that live in Gaza cheer when Hamas executes, abuses, or kidnaps Israelis, and they also raise their children to be the next generation of Hamas terrorists.

Most are not the innocent civilians you make them out to be. They live there and exist full well knowing that Hamas could lead them straight into justifiable death, yet they continue to support them and call Gaza home.

Israel needs to do whatever it is they deem necessary to take out the threat to their citizens. Period. They have shown great restraint so far in warning citizens of upcoming bombings and giving them time to leave. They have used pinpoint, precision weaponry to avoid civilian casualties. If "civilians" in Gaza suffer or die for the sins of the barbarians they enable and support, it's a reality of war. They are getting a lot better than what they have dished out to the Israelis.
I don't think anyone is making out the non-combatant civilians to be "innocent". But, if they are not carrying a weapon and/or fighting, they must be treated as a non-combatant. There are rules for treatment of POWs as well.

My first reaction was a desire to wipe them all out and be done with them. Kill them all. But, that is not the rightful course of action. Not every person in Gaza is a terrorist. They may support them, but that does not mean they should be slaughtered.

We support our country. We support our troops. We support our way of life. We teach our children this way of life and love for our country and our ideals. Should our children and other non-military countrymen be slaughtered by our enemies because they might grow up to fight for the USA one day? As a people, we have decided that this line of thinking is wrong.

I want Israel to eliminate all Hammas terrorists or anyone in Gaza that picks up a weapon to kill Israelis. We should not advocate for the slaughter of non-combatants, no matter where or who they are. One day, that non-combatant could be you and your family.
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