Israel/Hamas going at it

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In reply to LMCane • 4:25p, 10/17/23
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LMCane said:
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There's very little chance the Israelis hit a hospital…

The ME wants full scale war with the West…


From listening to Morons like Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley it certainly seems like America is the one itching for war. Didn't Janet Yellen just say "we can afford 2 wars". Insane.

Talking about this conflict is impossible because both sides just say everything their side does that normal people would consider horrific is fake. And there's plenty on both sides.
what EXACTLY has been "fake" from the Israeli side?
I want to start my answer by saying anyone who thinks either side is 100% in the moral right is a complete hack. Anyone saying Hamas has the supposed right to kill civilians as some students from high profile colleges are doing and blm is doing is very wrong.

That being said, the amount of times I've logged onto X and seen a graphic video of supposed Palestinian atrocities only to have community notes tell me its from 7 years ago from some different middle east conflict that was also caused by brain dead American politicians is insane. If you check my post history I even pointed out a video on texags that was supposedly of kidnapped jewish babies was from 2015 in Syria and the poster apologized and told me I was right - don't see that every day on message boards! While I want to be clear there are absolutely real horrific atrocities carried out by Hamas during this conflict, many of the specific high profile claims such as mass rapes have no evidence, I've even seen a video of that German girl from the festival alive after the fact. Now this thread is claiming Palestine bombed their own hospital. Lets wait and see. That's giving me a lot of Russia bombed their own pipeline vibes. Additionally, the idea that this all just started relatively unprovoked is a lie, both sides have been killing civilians from the other side for decades.
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4:26p, 10/17/23
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The hypocrisy of hamas...killing their own women and children with a missile misfire instead of strapping bomb vests on them and sending them to do their work.
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4:26p, 10/17/23
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There was already a protest happening in West Bank against Abbas. Protesting saying Abbas not doing enough to stop the war. Then news came about the hospital and things got crazy
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In reply to TXaggiesTX • 4:29p, 10/17/23
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TXaggiesTX said:
LMCane said:
TXaggiesTX said:
FireAg said:
There's very little chance the Israelis hit a hospital…

The ME wants full scale war with the West…


From listening to Morons like Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley it certainly seems like America is the one itching for war. Didn't Janet Yellen just say "we can afford 2 wars". Insane.

Talking about this conflict is impossible because both sides just say everything their side does that normal people would consider horrific is fake. And there's plenty on both sides.
what EXACTLY has been "fake" from the Israeli side?
I want to start my answer by saying anyone who thinks either side is 100% in the moral right is a complete hack. Anyone saying Hamas has the supposed right to kill civilians as some students from high profile colleges are doing and blm is doing is very wrong.

That being said, the amount of times I've logged onto X and seen a graphic video of supposed Palestinian atrocities only to have community notes tell me its from 7 years ago from some different middle east conflict that was also caused by brain dead American politicians is insane. If you check my post history I even pointed out a video on texags that was supposedly of kidnapped jewish babies was from 2015 in Syria and the poster apologized and told me I was right - don't see that every day on message boards! While I want to be clear there are absolutely real horrific atrocities carried out by Hamas during this conflict, many of the specific high profile claims such as mass rapes have no evidence, I've even seen a video of that German girl from the festival alive after the fact. Now this thread is claiming Palestine bombed their own hospital. Lets wait and see. That's giving me a lot of Russia bombed their own pipeline vibes. Additionally, the idea that this all just started relatively unprovoked is a lie, both sides have been killing civilians from the other side for decades.
If you take the video from Hamas's OWN SIDE, it's enough to know they are the bad guys.
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4:31p, 10/17/23
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Long thread geolocating the various videos of the failed rocket. Not that it is changing anyone's mind but seems as conclusive as you could get

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4:32p, 10/17/23
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Shocking development
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4:34p, 10/17/23
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Biden really needs to cancel this trip. I don't see anything to be gained by going to Israel.
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In reply to akm91 • 4:34p, 10/17/23
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akm91 said:
P.U.T.U said:
I am not on social media platforms but coworker said there are reports of Hamas having a failed rocket attack which caused more rockets to explode. I wouldn't put it past Hamas to have rockets that close to a hospital.
Precient post
Everything since the beginning has been too perfect. Hamas attacking, Hezbollah doing potshot attacks but no offensive, all of the players meeting and providing their itinerary well in advance, Iran playing aggressive and then pulling back right before the attack to act like it was not them. As we saw with the Arab spring, the truth doesn't matter and Iran knows that. They play off the emotion of those who hate Israel and the west.

Russia trying to pull an offensive (when they had no ability to), China sending more assets towards Taiwan, thousands of unknown immigrants coming to the USA, US selling half of its oil reserves.

One or two of these things may not raise a flag, why all of them happening at the same time?
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In reply to 45-70Ag • 4:35p, 10/17/23
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Hamas hitting a hospital is not a surprise at all. They know how to play the political game and they don't care who died there.

You are safe to assume the "dead" are corpses dressed in surgical scrubs, patients, or innocent bystanders.
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In reply to TXaggiesTX • 4:35p, 10/17/23
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Additionally, the idea that this all just started relatively unprovoked is a lie, both sides have been killing civilians from the other side for decades.


But only one side considers them valid targets…
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4:40p, 10/17/23
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Can you imagine the president of the United States of America doing this? Will be shocked if he makes it in overnight

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4:45p, 10/17/23
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In reply to JobSecurity • 4:46p, 10/17/23
JobSecurity said:
Long thread geolocating the various videos of the failed rocket. Not that it is changing anyone's mind but seems as conclusive as you could get



Doesn't matter. It's still the Jews fault. Those terrorists wouldn't have such terrible weaponry if not for Jewish intervention and oppression. In fact, if the Jews didnt exist those terrorists wouldn't be firing rockets in that direction to begin with. So no matter what this is Israel's fault.
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4:46p, 10/17/23
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So a single Hamas rocket killed 500 people?
Did it trigger the bombs in the basement?
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4:49p, 10/17/23
Wild that the plan is to throw Biden into the mix. We looking at the most volatile situation of our lifetimes. So you gotta really wonder what they got cooked up here.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 4:56p, 10/17/23
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Can you imagine the president of the United States of America doing this? Will be shocked if he makes it in overnight


Why are they laying on the ground while others walk around and video? Why lay on the ground with incoming rockets? They aren't small arms. You should be worried about shelter, not standing up so a bad guy can shoot you with his rifle.
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In reply to Pinochet • 4:58p, 10/17/23
Depends on how close they are to cover. You probably don't want to be on a plane with fuel with rockets incoming and they're creating the smallest possible target. Could just be a photo op though.
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5:03p, 10/17/23
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FWIW the IAF has bombed a hospital prior. It used to be on you tube and it was overlaid with audio from IDF intelligence. It was a fascinating listen/watch. Specifically a female probably captain on the phone with the head doctor others who were supposed to be in charge of the hospital.

It was being used to shoot from and she was confirming there were no civilians or patients left in the hospital. A short time later it ceased to exist.
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5:04p, 10/17/23
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So he is going to land in Tel Aviv when Hezbollah promises a day of revenge? What's the down side now to assassination? This has the feel of a driver making a wrong turn in a convertible and up pops Princip. Especially if Iran is stoking a highly charged and emotional Hezbollah.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 5:06p, 10/17/23
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JobSecurity said:


Looks like he is in the air.


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5:08p, 10/17/23
Maybe martyrdom is the only way to salvage his presidential legacy?

It's kinda weird they announce him in a hot zone


It would be the end of Hamas and the Palestinians if anything were to happen
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In reply to pacecar02 • 5:21p, 10/17/23
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pacecar02 said:
Maybe martyrdom is the only way to salvage his presidential legacy?

It's kinda weird they announce him in a hot zone


It would be the end of Hamas and the Palestinians if anything were to happen


Seriously, what makes you say that? The leftist propaganda machine is pro hamas full tilt
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to pacecar02 • 5:25p, 10/17/23
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pacecar02 said:
Maybe martyrdom is the only way to salvage his presidential legacy?

It's kinda weird they announce him in a hot zone


It would be the end of Hamas and the Palestinians if anything were to happen
Doubtful we would respond that harshly, if at all. Some foot stomping at the UN, maybe.
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In reply to aezmvp • 5:28p, 10/17/23
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Depends on how close they are to cover. You probably don't want to be on a plane with fuel with rockets incoming and they're creating the smallest possible target. Could just be a photo op though.

Look at the video and watch the guys in the background getting the video and photos.
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5:32p, 10/17/23
It's looking like some of those videos over the rocket misfire aren't holding up.
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In reply to Bubblez • 5:34p, 10/17/23
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Bubblez said:
It's looking like some of those videos over the rocket misfire aren't holding up.
Link? Or just wishful thinking?
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5:51p, 10/17/23
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I'm sure they want Biden in power.
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In reply to Dan Scott • 6:00p, 10/17/23
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"gaza officials"
"palestinian officials"

It's hamas you ****ing morons
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6:05p, 10/17/23
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You have to be an idiot to believe that Israel bombed a Baptist Hospital !
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6:12p, 10/17/23
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[You continue derailing the thread even after a short ban. We've been very clear this is a thread for updating and discussing the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas. Derails are inconsiderate to other posters. Try a few more days this time -- Staff]
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In reply to JobSecurity • 6:22p, 10/17/23
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I was waiting for mush mouth to issue a veiled statement condemning Israel. No way he should've been "invited" to Israel to referee this thing.
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6:25p, 10/17/23
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Crooked and irresponsible media

At least it got the upcoming disaster of middle eastern leaders meeting our senile geriatric leader canceled. For now.
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