Israel/Hamas going at it

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10:38a, 10/13/23
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In reply to Nitro Power • 10:43a, 10/13/23
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I wasn't referring to Blinken, I was referring to Schumer
10-4. I saw the Blinken one below so ran with that. Don't know why Schumer would be rolled out other than to offer that maybe he's the softest Jew they could find who would even whisper the word "de-escalation."
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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10:44a, 10/13/23
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In reply to CDUB98 • 10:45a, 10/13/23
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CDUB98 said:
nortex97 said:
The Steve thing is just obnoxious, imho.

It's pointless childish cheering/mockery over what are deadly events. I want the Israeli's to clear out Gaza and take back any remaining hostages/kill and permanently disarm the Hamas *******s as much as anyone but I do wish we could avoid the protracted absurdity of cheering for a rooster while following the timeline.
You have a right to your opinion.

Different people deal with things in different ways. Sometimes a little comic relief in the middle of turmoil is soothing.

It does not mean we negate the seriousness of the situation. It is simply a small piece of normalcy in a world of chaos.


His take is ridiculous, it would be like criticizing World War II, bomber crews for painting pinups on their B-17s as they bombed Nazis.
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In reply to 10andBOUNCE • 10:47a, 10/13/23
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And this is why the IDF needs to continue...they don't think like westerners. We really can't put ourselves in their shoes like we might be able to with other people groups.



One way or another, baby killer, you will be abandoning your land.
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10:48a, 10/13/23
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I would imagine they have left some connectivity/radio comms up just for the sake of listening in, so far. Full jamming to follow, pending ground assault from I assume multiple directions up to the river (initially).

Stone Age, you're about to see it, Hamas.
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10:50a, 10/13/23
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Israel has a clear strategy. Operating very surgical.
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10:52a, 10/13/23
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Long thread.
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In reply to 10andBOUNCE • 10:53a, 10/13/23
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In reply to 45-70Ag • 10:56a, 10/13/23
45-70Ag said:

Somehow I doubt they're really willing to cut off a huge source of income for themselves for a group they won't even let in their country.
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In reply to JFABNRGR • 10:56a, 10/13/23
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Completely agree, but to them palestinians are a scourge and I never knew the history as to why.

Anybody have the cliff notes on this?
Cliff notes? No but it helps to keep in mind that Arabs and North Africans are tribal. (Like Afghanistan) The notion of statehood is not a concept to them. And by statehood I mean a government agreed to by the people. They instead have kingdoms and dictatorships. There's a reason for that.

Egypt had a leader, Gamal Abdel Nasser who came up through the military and became the second elected President of Egypt in 1954. Nasser believed in Pan-Arab Nationalism, a way to unite the tribes, for lack of a better term. That was earthshattering and truly a large concern not only for the West but of the longstanding kingdoms, monarchies and dictatorships. very controversial. He was also a modernist and socialist and envisioned a world where the Pan-Arabs had seats at the big tale with other world leaders.

He was assassinated in 1970.

ETA: Or "died" in 1970. Historians disagree on the cause of death. Better?

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In reply to 45-70Ag • 10:59a, 10/13/23
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45-70Ag said:
Fake news, apparently.

Zero Hedge has confirmed that this is fake news. The Arabic in the below clip nowhere mentions natural gas or any other energy commodity, but instead merely decries Palestinian land being taken as the main "issue" in general remarks on the Israel-Gaza crisis.


https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/viral-clip-emir-qatar-threatening-cut-gas-supply-world-fake-news
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In reply to goatchze • 11:01a, 10/13/23
Let it be know - I was right!
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In reply to 10andBOUNCE • 11:08a, 10/13/23
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10andBOUNCE said:
And this is why the IDF needs to continue...they don't think like westerners. We really can't put ourselves in their shoes like we might be able to with other people groups.



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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 11:21a, 10/13/23
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Agthatbuilds said:

They better get all their goat porn downloaded to a hard drive or there is going to be some pissed off terrorists in the strip.
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11:24a, 10/13/23
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Maybe committing barbaric atrocities against the country that controls your borders, your water, your food, your electricity, your internet, and has the ability to wipe you out…. was a bad idea
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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:25a, 10/13/23
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Not a Bot said:


Long thread.
Here's the Unroll. This has been planned for a long time.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1712791788593787218.html
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In reply to GAC06 • 11:27a, 10/13/23
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GAC06 said:
Maybe committing barbaric atrocities against the country that controls your borders, your water, your food, your electricity, your internet, and has the ability to wipe you out…. was a bad idea
Yes, the attack last weekend was tactically brilliant but strategically moronic.
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In reply to Tailgate88 • 11:29a, 10/13/23
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Not a Bot said:


Long thread.
Here's the Unroll. This has been planned for a long time.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1712791788593787218.html
They plan these videos ahead of time all the time, its a normal tactic. Just like the fake videos of children in Gaza being hurt during that come out 5 minutes after a bomb drops.
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11:29a, 10/13/23
[Your post was removed because it was creating a derail. Reposting it and calling out moderation isn't the way to go -- Staff]


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In reply to Not a Bot • 11:31a, 10/13/23
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Not a Bot said:


Long thread.
If accurate, this thing is about to get a whole lot bigger
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In reply to captkirk • 11:33a, 10/13/23
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If accurate, this thing is about to get a whole lot big
afraid you are correct
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In reply to captkirk • 11:34a, 10/13/23
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captkirk said:
Not a Bot said:


Long thread.
If accurate, this thing is about to get a whole lot bigger


I don't think so, if there was going to be a coordinated joint "invasion" of Israel by multiple parties they would have launched them at the same time last Saturday. Israel isn't going be surprised again and have mobilized reserve units all across the border with Lebanon. I doubt Hesbollah will muster much more than rocket attacks and some isolated ground clashes with militia types.
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In reply to Tailgate88 • 11:35a, 10/13/23
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If this was the case why wouldnt Hezbollah have attacked by now? Wouldn't we see evidence that they're massing troops for an invasion at least? They've completed missed any element of surprise and now Israel is fully prepared to defend that area.

I'm sure these 'leaders' have conversations about readiness all the time. Their existence is predicated on attacking Israel. These meetings dont mean much in my opinion
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In reply to JobSecurity • 11:38a, 10/13/23
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JobSecurity said:
If this was the case why wouldnt Hezbollah have attacked by now? Wouldn't we see evidence that they're massing troops for an invasion at least? They've completed missed any element of surprise and now Israel is fully prepared to defend that area.

I'm sure these 'leaders' have conversations about readiness all the time. Their existence is predicated on attacking Israel. These meetings dont mean much in my opinion
They may mean something to Netanyahu
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11:43a, 10/13/23
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Maybe Hesbollah lost their nerve. Hesbollah is who Iran truly supports , looks to me like they just used Hamas as Patsies and probably told Hesbollah to sit last weekend out.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 11:46a, 10/13/23
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JobSecurity said:
If this was the case why wouldnt Hezbollah have attacked by now? Wouldn't we see evidence that they're massing troops for an invasion at least? They've completed missed any element of surprise and now Israel is fully prepared to defend that area.

I'm sure these 'leaders' have conversations about readiness all the time. Their existence is predicated on attacking Israel. These meetings dont mean much in my opinion
I wonder if they are getting a response from Israel they did not expect. Bibi declared war it seems in less than 24 hrs. Perhaps they thought better about it after their initial plan was foiled?
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11:48a, 10/13/23
Hezbollah is more likely biding their time than losing their nerve is my assumption
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In reply to Nitro Power • 11:48a, 10/13/23
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I still think that they were FAR more successful than they ever thought possible last Saturday and never really thought about what would happen if they actually pulled the whole thing off.
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11:50a, 10/13/23
Maybe Hezbollah is a little skeered right now seeing Israelis pound Gaza.
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In reply to bonfarr • 11:50a, 10/13/23
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Yeah, Iran can declare victory because everyone who dies in this conflict is a feather in their twisted cap, Sunnis and Israelis. They prefer Israelis to die but Sunnis are an okay result too.
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11:51a, 10/13/23
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Israeli army says infantry forces and tanks entered Gaza Strip territory today in "localized raids" in order to clear the area of potential militants and locate missing Israelis


https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-october-israeli-army-says-infantry-forces-and-tanks-entered

Probably needs corroboration, but keep an eye out for reports.
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In reply to JobSecurity • 11:51a, 10/13/23
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Hezbollah is waiting for the IDF to invade Gaza and fully commit to fighting in the strip. Based on their history, this is when they will open up on the Israelis from the North.
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In reply to captkirk • 11:52a, 10/13/23
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captkirk said:
Not a Bot said:


Long thread.
If accurate, this thing is about to get a whole lot bigger
Yes, the issue is that it is both (a) plausible/realistic, and (b) if so, I'm not sure what the Israeli's have/can do that would be disruptive/not anticipated.



To me it implies they have a nuclear capability (Russians might have helped them build one but not test it yet), perhaps even implanted in/about Tel Aviv/Jerusalem etc already. As John F Kerry/Obama/Jarret's buddies just want to kill jews and have no concern for collateral casualties, I am deeply concerned.

Biden must be removed from office asap (legally). The prospect of his handler team being 'in charge' amidst a nuclear conflagration in the Middle East is terrifying.
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