I can't stress this enough, it is grooming. This is how impressionable kids are and why we need to protect our children in this country from any and all grooming but what the parents agree to.Joes said:Yep, it sucks bad, and those kids are too young to know any better, but I can't see how there's any permanent solution other than to rip the Band-Aid off and start over. It's an endless cycle otherwise.Nitro Power said:
The saddest part is the kids truly are innocent they just were born without a chance or normalcy, and the only way to fix it is start over.
Israel/Hamas going at it
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I think the west needs to collectively recognize the enemy now within or western culture will be destroyed.Joes said:
I know some are applauding France for banning the demonstrations in support of Hamas and I understand why people feel that way, but I think it's a mistake. The west needs to see these crowds of monsters, not cover them up.
France needs to be French again.
Infiltrating cultures that celebrate terrorism cannot be trusted with the freedoms of the western world.
Sadly, authoritarianism may be the only way to not be completely overrun in their present situation.
We will see what works and what doesn't because sadly America is headed down that same path unless we can close our border and self correct in time. I am still optimistic.
He is clearly not a bot though.Ags4DaWin said:DannyDuberstein said:Not a Bot said:
I thought it was common knowledge that these sorts of interrogations, especially in that part of the world, start physical. Hell, even most police interrogations outside of the US start with some punches to the gut.
I've seen enough interrogation videos from the war in Ukraine to know that this guy would have been singing I'm a Little Teapot if they told him to. They keep the abuse to the torso to make sure they look good for the camera. Electrocution doesn't leave a mark on the face. People get forced to say things.
Getting someone from Hamas on camera to confirm what they already knew was the entire point of releasing this video. Whether he had direct knowledge or participation in those specific acts, he probably did. They get permission for sex outside of marriage if it's the rape of an infidel.
The point I was making is that it's generally not a great idea to automatically believe what anyone says on camera like this. Not so much for this one, but for others that may end up coming out. No doubt Hamas has "interrogated" Israeli soldiers and hostages and I'm sure they've admitted to atrocities on camera.
"We all know these guys rape and torture but the Israelis beat him to get him to say they rape and torture so you shouldn't believe him when says they rape and torture even though we all know they rape and torture"
That is literally the nonsense you just spewed
Sounds like something a Bot would twist themselves into saying
Exactly. As I stated before, the Muslim communities in France are concentrated, not dispersed around the country. When they nut up and decide to riot and loot, LEO rapidly loses control.Rossticus said:
I think it's more about the fact that once these "protests" get rolling they're too much for law enforcement to contain. They get massive, violent and overpowering. General threat to public safety and well being.
And that's without a jihad calling for them to spill blood, as here.
🔥7th day of war in Gaza
— Anadolu English (@anadoluagency) October 12, 2023
🪖 Although Israel has not yet officially announced a ground offensive in Gaza, tanks have moved near the Gaza border as the Israeli army deploys military vehicles around the Gaza Strip https://t.co/ZtT7PgHGqT pic.twitter.com/lREmn0d6nM
I'm not saying to allow them to burn buildings and kill people, but when they're just in the streets chanting that they won't stop until Islam is in every house in the world and/or to "gas the Jews" I think people should see that now before there are a hundred times as many in our countries.Funky Winkerbean said:Joes said:
I know some are applauding France for banning the demonstrations in support of Hamas and I understand why people feel that way, but I think it's a mistake. The west needs to see these crowds of monsters, not cover them up.
How'd it work out having America watch the BLM "protest s"?
Now, I'll agree that you're right if we're going to just accept that they've won and are taking over and we just want to put it off a little longer.
Hamas terror organization's senior, Tayseer Ibrahim has been killed by #IAF 🇮🇱 airstrike on Nuseirat#Gaza
— Aleph א (@no_itsmyturn) October 12, 2023
Nothing he said is illegal.annie88 said:Eliminatus said:With the lack of desire and resources to do so in that part of the world....it's literally impossible on a macro scale. I usually hesitate to make such black and white statements but it is true here. De-radicalizing Islam will never occur with normal psychological means. Never.annie88 said:ABATTBQ11 said:
They're can be no peace with this
Agreed. When you teach hatred from birth, it's really hard to overcome. This is no different than KKK clan people, BLM, etc. but sadly, this Islamic militant terrorism is even beyond that.
This is a New York. Why this piece of **** is not already arrested, and if not from our country deported is beyond me.
This is some scary ass stuff.
Apparently, the FBI can track down J6 people that weren't even at the rally but they can't do anything about this.
Lets not give the government even more excuses to take away our rights.
FBI 20 years ago:
Let's put him on a watchlist, or he could already be an FBI agent.
Today's FBI:
Dude isn't wearing a MAGA hat. There's no threat.
That's the real problem
Merkava is one heck of a sexy tank. I'm surprised more countries haven't moved to having a rear turret and the engine in front.Agthatbuilds said:🔥7th day of war in Gaza
— Anadolu English (@anadoluagency) October 12, 2023
🪖 Although Israel has not yet officially announced a ground offensive in Gaza, tanks have moved near the Gaza border as the Israeli army deploys military vehicles around the Gaza Strip https://t.co/ZtT7PgHGqT pic.twitter.com/lREmn0d6nM
I googled him. He's apparently a dentist in Illinois.
Joes said:I'm not saying to allow them to burn buildings and kill people, but when they're just in the streets chanting that they won't stop until Islam is in every house in the world and/or to "gas the Jews" I think people should see that now before there are a hundred times as many in our countries.Funky Winkerbean said:Joes said:
I know some are applauding France for banning the demonstrations in support of Hamas and I understand why people feel that way, but I think it's a mistake. The west needs to see these crowds of monsters, not cover them up.
How'd it work out having America watch the BLM "protest s"?
Now, I'll agree that you're right if we're going to just accept that they've won and are taking over and we just want to put it off a little longer.
I'm saying that America (the woke culture) won't be able to entertain that message, much less form a plan to control it. All they see is "oppressed" people of color are mad, so by default we deserve what they want to do to us. It's a sickness.
Have you even watched the news of the Muslim protests turned riots in the last five years? They may not have killed people (except that truck driver that mowed 84 people down on Bastille Day in Nice) but fires and looting? Yes.Quote:
I'm not saying to allow them to burn buildings and kill people, but when they're just in the streets chanting that they won't stop until Islam is in every house in the world and/or to "gas the Jews" I think people should see that now before there are a hundred times as many in our countries.
Thinking about doing chicken shwarmas tomorrow for global day of jihad. Maybe find me a mini-can of Fanta with that real sugar. Just like old times. Who's in?
He's the Marathon Man villan?Not a Bot said:
I googled him. He's apparently a dentist in Illinois.
Only way I want to see crowds of that trash is through a rifle scope. Go ahead and let them riot, but announce that it is legal to shoot anybody rioting.Joes said:
I know some are applauding France for banning the demonstrations in support of Hamas and I understand why people feel that way, but I think it's a mistake. The west needs to see these crowds of monsters, not cover them up.
Would be nice to see them kick off their invasion on Hamas' day of Jihad.Agthatbuilds said:🔥7th day of war in Gaza
— Anadolu English (@anadoluagency) October 12, 2023
🪖 Although Israel has not yet officially announced a ground offensive in Gaza, tanks have moved near the Gaza border as the Israeli army deploys military vehicles around the Gaza Strip https://t.co/ZtT7PgHGqT pic.twitter.com/lREmn0d6nM
Don't be an anti-dentite.Sharpshooter said:He's the Marathon Man villan?Not a Bot said:
I googled him. He's apparently a dentist in Illinois.
BREAKING:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) October 12, 2023
One of the largest Israeli air raids so far is striking targets in Gaza in this very moment pic.twitter.com/QK8wqy7dWT
I think you are probably right, but I also know the Israelis are a proud people and their leaders understand they need to handle this themselves as a cathartic measure for the nation and to let their enemies know not to ever make the mistake of attacking them again. It is important for them to prove to the world that they are fully ready and able to defend their country without the help of anyone else.2023NCAggies said:If people want to come help you, you should let them.Not a Bot said:He further stated that Israel has made it clear that they right now do not want or need the Presence of Foreign Troops on their Territory and that Combat Operations need to be conducted by the Israeli People for their Country.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 12, 2023
But I get a feeling they want to do it their way and weak western countries might not like their way lol
Yes, I'm very aware.aggiehawg said:Have you even watched the news of the Muslim protests turned riots in the last five years? They may not have killed people (except that truck driver that mowed 84 people down on Bastille Day in Nice) but fires and looting? Yes.Quote:
I'm not saying to allow them to burn buildings and kill people, but when they're just in the streets chanting that they won't stop until Islam is in every house in the world and/or to "gas the Jews" I think people should see that now before there are a hundred times as many in our countries.
The situation will only get worse. So all I see are two choices, we (the west) choose to correct and confront as soon as possible, knowing it will already be difficult to un**** ourselves at this point, or else we just accept that we've already lost our whole civilization and our goal every day going forward should be to try not to make the Islamo-Nazis mad and hand them the keys. I guess we're going with the latter.
The world knows Israel is strong.Ag87H2O said:I think you are probably right, but I also know the Israelis are a proud people and their leaders understand they need to handle this themselves as a cathartic measure for the nation and to let their enemies know not to ever make the mistake of attacking them again. It is important for them to prove to the world that they are fully ready and able to defend their country without the help of anyone else.2023NCAggies said:If people want to come help you, you should let them.Not a Bot said:He further stated that Israel has made it clear that they right now do not want or need the Presence of Foreign Troops on their Territory and that Combat Operations need to be conducted by the Israeli People for their Country.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 12, 2023
But I get a feeling they want to do it their way and weak western countries might not like their way lol
This has more to do with limiting the number of cooks in the kitchen. They don't trust that America won't cave to international pressure and hinder Israel in what needs to be done.
Not a Bot said:BREAKING:
— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) October 12, 2023
One of the largest Israeli air raids so far is striking targets in Gaza in this very moment pic.twitter.com/QK8wqy7dWT
Dude is like I need a wide angle lense.
ABATTBQ11 said:2023NCAggies said:If people want to come help you, you should let them.Not a Bot said:He further stated that Israel has made it clear that they right now do not want or need the Presence of Foreign Troops on their Territory and that Combat Operations need to be conducted by the Israeli People for their Country.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 12, 2023
But I get a feeling they want to do it their way and weak western countries might not like their way lol
Probably had more to do with optics
Optics on the part this is our fight and I took it as right now were too damn busy raining death on evil to coordinate safe passages that will interfere or interrupt our current OP Tempo.
Not a Bot said:He further stated that Israel has made it clear that they right now do not want or need the Presence of Foreign Troops on their Territory and that Combat Operations need to be conducted by the Israeli People for their Country.
— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) October 12, 2023
All kidding aside good for them. If they need help, they can ask.
To put a face and title to the name.Agthatbuilds said:Hamas terror organization's senior, Tayseer Ibrahim has been killed by #IAF 🇮🇱 airstrike on Nuseirat#Gaza
— Aleph א (@no_itsmyturn) October 12, 2023
استشهاد أخي وصديقي الحبيب
— د. حسن محمد الكردي (@DrAlkordi) October 12, 2023
(د.تيسير كامل إبراهيم ) عميد كلية الشريعة والقانون بالجامعة الإسلامية بغزة السابق
The martyrdom of my beloved brother and friend
(Dr. Tayseer Kamel Ibrahim), former Dean of the Faculty of Sharia and Law at the Islamic University of Gaza pic.twitter.com/AT8jfqv572
I knew Jon Stewart was a radical just not that radical.Not a Bot said:To put a face and title to the name.Agthatbuilds said:Hamas terror organization's senior, Tayseer Ibrahim has been killed by #IAF 🇮🇱 airstrike on Nuseirat#Gaza
— Aleph א (@no_itsmyturn) October 12, 2023استشهاد أخي وصديقي الحبيب
— د. حسن محمد الكردي (@DrAlkordi) October 12, 2023
(د.تيسير كامل إبراهيم ) عميد كلية الشريعة والقانون بالجامعة الإسلامية بغزة السابق
The martyrdom of my beloved brother and friend
(Dr. Tayseer Kamel Ibrahim), former Dean of the Faculty of Sharia and Law at the Islamic University of Gaza pic.twitter.com/AT8jfqv572
Looks like the south first responders telegram was taken down?
Not a Bot said:
I wrote with nuance. You are speaking in absolutes and it is not conducive to conversation. I don't blame you for it, it is just the way the internet is. Please try to be charitable and read what people actually mean when they write things instead of always assuming the worst.
The way of the internet is that sometimes people just argue for the sake of arguing instead of just admitting "yeah, i just made a completely irrelevant point"
With American involvement comes American rules of engagement and quite frankly it will just hinder what Israel needs to do.
How complex is their underground network? Can a large portion of hamas disappear for a weeks worth of bombing and reemerge ready to fight?
Or possibly just as effective, they all go home to their families during all this while Israel bombs their empty buildings. The homes of some high ranking members get hit but 99% of them are too low profile to target.
Or possibly just as effective, they all go home to their families during all this while Israel bombs their empty buildings. The homes of some high ranking members get hit but 99% of them are too low profile to target.
In keeping with the tradition of silence is violence, TNF weigh in with a well wordsmithed statement and moment of silence.
zgolfz85 said:
Looks like the south first responders telegram was taken down?
Nevermind it's still up