Israel/Hamas going at it

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Funky Winkerbean said:

Jeeper79 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Who would be surprised if Ukrainian "aid" had been skimmed and used to fund Hamas?
Me for one.
You realize that Ukraine is a corruption nation and has been for a very long time? You realize Joe Biden just gave $6 billion to Iran? You know Joe Biden and his family are corrupt? You realize there is no accountability regarding the aid? If I think Joe asked Ukraine to pass money on to Iran as a condition to the aid I am being irrational in my concern?


He is probably surprised when the sun comes up in the east every morning.
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Nanomachines son said:



Dugin with an interesting perspective from the Russian view. Apparently they think it will have a cascading effect in the region.
Ray Charles was contacted from the other realm and said he also sees this coming
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Funky Winkerbean said:



Anyone that can substantiate this?
Seeing one or two weapons in the hands of barbarians isn't a shock to anyone. On the black market in any country, especially second and third world style, you can find anything you desire.
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Teslag said:

They have A2 handles, don't look like any M4's we fielded in the last 20 years


Yep. Look like old school colt commandos. Probably been in dirty hands for a few decades or more.
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CS78 said:

Teslag said:

They have A2 handles, don't look like any M4's we fielded in the last 20 years


Yep. Look like old school colt commandos. Probably been in dirty hands for a few decades or more.


So no chance they came from what we supplied the afgani army with. Vietnamese got M1 garands for awhile.
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Israel building up military on Lebanon border.

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Wild that when Trump was president people on their best behavior.

Now we got a substitute teacher with dementia and it's a free-for-all.

If you thinking about acting up, why wouldn't you do it?

Everybody who anybody goin balls out.
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Probably not. Barrels are too short as well. We'd have left the afghanis M4's with rails on the upper receiver and a quad rail on a longer barrel than what's in the pic. Possibly some older M16A2's as well or even marine A3's which those in the pic definitely are not.
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I have thought about this as well today. I hope hope hope there are no sleeper cells here in America. Could have easily come through our open southern border.

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I read earlier in this thread that less than 2% of israelis own guns. Storming America will be a little different, storming the south will be even harder

But yeah, it does feel like a mass casualty event could be in the cards at some point, al la 9/11
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Teslag said:

Probably not. Barrels are too short as well. We'd have left the afghanis M4's with rails on the upper receiver and a quad rail on a longer barrel than what's in the pic. Possibly some older M16A2's as well or even marine A3's which those in the pic definitely are not.


That is an American M4. Very familiar with them. Very few M16s are used nowadays.

https://www.military.com/equipment/m4-carbine
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What manpad and anti-tank weapons does hamas have?
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It'll happen
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knj2417 said:

I read earlier in this thread that less than 2% of israelis own guns. Storming America will be a little different, storming the south will be even harder


It wouldn't be a storming. It would be guerrilla tactics or bombings, etc. Small terrorist attacks that are hard to catch and can be done by a small group of people.
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will25u said:


Must be nice having a president who works on Saturdays.
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will25u said:

Teslag said:

Probably not. Barrels are too short as well. We'd have left the afghanis M4's with rails on the upper receiver and a quad rail on a longer barrel than what's in the pic. Possibly some older M16A2's as well or even marine A3's which those in the pic definitely are not.


That is an American M4. Very familiar with them. Very few M16s are used nowadays.

https://www.military.com/equipment/m4-carbine



Yep. Lacks the A2 handles and the barrel is longer than the weapons in Don Jr's pic.I think the marines didn't switch to M4's until 5 years or so ago. So it's possible they left a lot of their older M16's as surplus to the Afghanis.
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Looking at it closer, it is definitely an M4 with an ACOG.
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Barrel is way too short to be currently fielded M4. I know, lugged one around Syria two years ago.
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CS78 said:

What manpad and anti-tank weapons does hamas have?


Safe to assume the same stuff Iran equipped Hezbollah with for the 2006 Lebanon war as far as ATGM's. Russian stuff, Konkurs, Kornet, etc.

Probably in much more limited numbers due to the need to smuggle them.
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The carry handle also looks integrated into the receiver which would date it quite a bit.
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will25u said:

Looking at it closer, it is definitely an M4 with an ACOG.


They've been showing off captured Israeli stuff. Certainly possible that's the origin.
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Must be nice having a president who works on Saturdays.
Kind of depends on what they're getting done. Israeli PM securing approval for the destruction of Hamas after a terrorist attack is good. FJB doing more of what his puppet masters desire? No thanks.
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Teslag said:

Probably not. Barrels are too short as well. We'd have left the afghanis M4's with rails on the upper receiver and a quad rail on a longer barrel than what's in the pic. Possibly some older M16A2's as well or even marine A3's which those in the pic definitely are not.


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The Porkchop Express said:

will25u said:


Must be nice having a president who works on Saturdays.
Hes the Prime Minister, but yes, hes a real leader
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Thank you Andrew Jackson!
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rab79 said:

Teslag said:

Probably not. Barrels are too short as well. We'd have left the afghanis M4's with rails on the upper receiver and a quad rail on a longer barrel than what's in the pic. Possibly some older M16A2's as well or even marine A3's which those in the pic definitely are not.


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That's not the rifle in Don Jr's pic
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Kentucky Jeff said:

Thank you Andrew Jackson!
It happened way later than that. And we are all better for it.
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one safe place said:

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Israelis need to solve this like we solved our Indian problem.
Firewater and casinos?
Don't forget free land in Oklahoma...
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Bregxit said:

Teslag said:

rab79 said:

Teslag said:

Probably not. Barrels are too short as well. We'd have left the afghanis M4's with rails on the upper receiver and a quad rail on a longer barrel than what's in the pic. Possibly some older M16A2's as well or even marine A3's which those in the pic definitely are not.






That's not the rifle in Don Jr's pic


It is the bottom one with an ACOG in the handle.





Yep. And we don't issue the bottom one.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Jeeper79 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Who would be surprised if Ukrainian "aid" had been skimmed and used to fund Hamas?
Me for one.
You realize that Ukraine is a corruption nation and has been for a very long time? You realize Joe Biden just gave $6 billion to Iran? You know Joe Biden and his family are corrupt? You realize there is no accountability regarding the aid? If I think Joe asked Ukraine to pass money on to Iran as a condition to the aid I am being irrational in my concern?


You realize you're making a lot of non sequiturs that make no sense?
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Jeeper79 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Who would be surprised if Ukrainian "aid" had been skimmed and used to fund Hamas?
Me for one.
You realize that Ukraine is a corruption nation and has been for a very long time? You realize Joe Biden just gave $6 billion to Iran? You know Joe Biden and his family are corrupt? You realize there is no accountability regarding the aid? If I think Joe asked Ukraine to pass money on to Iran as a condition to the aid I am being irrational in my concern?


You realize you're making a lot of non sequiturs that make no sense?
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