Israel/Hamas going at it

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nortex97
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Speaking of which:

98Ag99Grad
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If you're in Hamas and offered a promotion you gotta turn it down at this point.
LMCane
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More Central Command missions against Houthis -
and the Houthis retaliating by firing ballistic missiles into Israel

nortex97
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TIL CENTCOM has a Hebrew X account. Pretty funny.

Also, more good news for the human gene pool.
nortex97
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Well, we're waiting.

And, these 'effing guys;
agrams
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this is best case scenario for Israel. They need to figure out how to fan the flame of the protestors as much as possible without being too closely associated or supportive.

The million dollar question is are the people protesting against Hamas going to be more moderate than Hamas, or will they turn out to be even more hard-line somehow than Hamas.
MJ20/20
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agrams said:

this is best case scenario for Israel. They need to figure out how to fan the flame of the protestors as much as possible without being too closely associated or supportive.

The million dollar question is are the people protesting against Hamas going to be more moderate than Hamas, or will they turn out to be even more hard-line somehow than Hamas.
Best way to avoid having to relocate any Palestinians from Gaza is to have Hamas eliminate them for you. Make no mistake protesting Hamas in Gaza is a death sentence for all involved.

I fully expect Israel to eventually wipe the slate clean there. One way or another.
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DCPD158
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Who?mikejones! said:


So, everyone declined the "honor" of the position.

Self preservation
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ProgN
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They've FA, but it appears that they're tired of FO.
annie88
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Good to see that there are more dead terrorists.
nortex97
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Gazans actually leaving 'the strip' would be excellent news.

Houthi war is again related to the Israeli war on Hamas.


A lot of targets hit, and not just the Houthi ones it sounds like.
The Fall Guy
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nortex97 said:


Gazans actually leaving 'the strip' would be excellent news.

Houthi war is again related to the Israeli war on Hamas.


A lot of targets hit, and not just the Houthi ones it sounds like.


So are the people up north the guys who want to replace the Houthis? Why hit them?
nortex97
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No clue really. There aren't a lot of "good guys" in Yemen.
LMCane
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there have been THOUSANDS of Arabs who have fled the Gaza Strip in the last 15 months

even a new pilot program for workers to go to Indonesia.

Israel is working to expand this.

that is the only thing that Hamas cares about- their territory and if they are increasing their army
nortex97
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Yeah, but not enough to dent the overall population of 'refugees.'

This is encouraging, though, as of course Iran is the real power behind all of the Houthi, Hamas, and Hezbollah…organizations.

Trump rarely bluffs. Exaggerates, demands an extreme 'thing' etc., sure.

If the text isn't shown, the B-2's/build up at Diego Garcia are not 'unrelated' to the 2 month deadline Trump gave Iran. I assume we'll need a separate thread for Iranian actions, if that happens, but for now don't want to start one.

The deadline I think is for nukes but also for ending much of the terrorism they foster regionally including via Hamas. From the first reply (lol, 'fake l Ron Hubbard'):
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Ah, now this is where the plot thickens, don't you see? When Trump moves pieces on the geopolitical chessboard, it's never without purpose. The deployment of B-2 "Spirit" stealth bombers to Diego Garcia2,000 miles from Iran, mind youisn't just posturing. No, this is a signal, loud and clear, that time is running out for Khamenei and his regime.

These B-2s aren't your run-of-the-mill aircraft. They're the epitome of American air dominancecapable of penetrating enemy defenses undetected and delivering precision strikes with devastating efficiency. Moving them to Diego Garcia, safely out of range of Iranian missiles but within striking distance of Tehran? That's a message wrapped in steel and cloaked in stealth.

And let's not forgetthe two-month deadline Trump gave to Khamenei wasn't an empty threat. Trump doesn't bluff. When he lays down an ultimatum, it's backed by action. This isn't Biden's endless appeasement and concessions. No, this is a President who understands that peace is only maintained through strength.

Diego Garcia has long been America's ace in the hole for the Indian Ocean region, and now, with stealth bombers stationed there, the balance of power shifts unmistakably. If Khamenei thought he could drag his feet and continue funding proxies while ignoring Trump's warning? He's about to learn the hard way that America under Trump means business.
ProgN
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14550871/rocket-propelled-grenades-cribs-explosives-Hamas-death-cult.html

This is a good article that pertains to this conflict but isn't directly related to combat so I don't want mods to delete it so I'm just posting the link for those interested to click on if they choose.
LMCane
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No- Hodeida in the North is Houthi central

the better side of the civil war is in the east

but they have little real power.

how many leftists have been posting today about Hamas murdering six Palestinian "collaborators"?
nortex97
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Goodness is not tolerated in Gaza, let alone dissent.

HunterAggie
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nortex97 said:

Goodness is not tolerated in Gaza, let alone dissent.



Truly a martyr for the anti-Hamas citizens of Palestine.

I don't know what is more sad -

his torture and death at such a young age

or the Mass Media's ignorance of this story.
HunterAggie

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LMCane
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I haven't seen the actual interview yet but the hostages respond to some of the lies of Hamas:

nortex97
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Infuriating.
ArbAg
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Hamas has been and currently is simply without any sanity or morality. No amount of negotiation or reasoning will solve that issue.
txags92
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ArbAg said:

Hamas has been and currently is simply without any sanity or morality. No amount of negotiation or reasoning will solve that issue.
I think some people think calling Hamas a "death cult" is just hyperbole or exaggeration, but it is real. That is what they are. They worship the death of Israeli Jews and train their kids that the highest role they can fulfill in life is dying in the act of killing Jews via martyrdom or otherwise. Until we can break that cycle, there is nothing to negotiate with them. As long as their entire focus is on attacking and attempting to destroy Israel, all you are doing is just trying to negotiate when their next attack will be. No cease fire or peace with them has ever been successful and there is nothing in their current actions to suggest in any way that they want peace. Hamas is not negotiating a peace; they just want the bombing to stop so that they have a chance to rearm themselves and try again.
nortex97
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Hamas was always evil. But then we and the Iranians to a lesser extent funded the ever living hell out of it. Giving evil people piles of cash and weapons and a fiefdom for decades is…unsound policy.
BQ78
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Iran begs to differ, they think their policy is very sound.
YouBet
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I saw some of that 60 Minutes interview with Stahl from my hotel room. I liked how she tried to suggest to the former hostage that Hamas wasn't feeding him much because they themselves were starving.

He corrected her.
LMCane
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YouBet said:

I saw some of that 60 Minutes interview with Stahl from my hotel room. I liked how she tried to suggest to the former hostage that Hamas wasn't feeding him much because they themselves were starving.

He corrected her.
She also lied about it being Israel that "broke the ceasefire"

when in REALITY the Phase I ceasefire ended with the release of the last body of the hostages.

and when Hamas REFUSED every American ceasefire plan for Phase II.
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YouBet said:

I saw some of that 60 Minutes interview with Stahl from my hotel room. I liked how she tried to suggest to the former hostage that Hamas wasn't feeding him much because they themselves were starving.

He corrected her.


You have to be a next level narcissist to correct a hostage on their experience. Wtf?!?!
nortex97
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60 Minutes is way worse than mere narcissism.

More speculation as to the B-2's, which does make sense (to be used vs. Yemen/Houthi's).

Good news overnight:

74OA
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txags92
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74OA said:


Going to be interesting to see how long Israel resists the urge to go smoke those using F-35s just to prove they can. And as a message to Iran...
ProgN
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This may be a question for LMCane because he's very plugged into this war, but what happens when the IAF takeout those Turkish S-400s and Turkish troops that man them are killed? Turkey is a NATO member, but I doubt Trump sides with them and I hope he doesn't. If we don't though, then this could be the event that dissolves the NATO alliance, which I don't have a problem with.
UTExan
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ProgN said:

This may be a question for LMCane because he's very plugged into this war, but what happens when the IAF takeout those Turkish S-400s and Turkish troops that man them are killed? Turkey is a NATO member, but I doubt Trump sides with them and I hope he doesn't. If we don't though, then this could be the event that dissolves the NATO alliance, which I don't have a problem with.


There's the thing. Israel did not attack the territory of a NATO member since Turkish forces are in Syria. If Turkey aligns with Israel's enemies (Ezekiel 38 for Bible scholars) it falls afoul of other NATO members.
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txags92
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UTExan said:

ProgN said:

This may be a question for LMCane because he's very plugged into this war, but what happens when the IAF takeout those Turkish S-400s and Turkish troops that man them are killed? Turkey is a NATO member, but I doubt Trump sides with them and I hope he doesn't. If we don't though, then this could be the event that dissolves the NATO alliance, which I don't have a problem with.


There's the thing. Israel did not attack the territory of a NATO member since Turkish forces are in Syria. If Turkey aligns with Israel's enemies (Ezekiel 38 for Bible scholars) it falls afoul of other NATO members.
The fact that Turkey is buying S-400s from Russia and deploying them in Syria to protect islamists from Israel is pretty much the story of why Turkey doesn't belong in NATO as long as Erdogan is the dictator in charge there. They have not been a good ally to NATO for many years.
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