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txags92 said:

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GAC06 said:

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txags92 said:

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GAC06 said:

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I think the big explosion is the secondary. There's a flash right before it, then the big explosion

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A secondary from hitting a rocket cache would not send that kind of shockwave across the sky. Whether it was the first or a later hit, that was a large explosion.

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I didn't realize only certain explosions create shockwaves

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Only fairly large ones create shockwaves visible across a large area of the sky compressing the humidity out of the air.

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Yeah, that was a large one. Has nothing to do with whether it could be a weapons cache

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I was just basing it on the assumption that secondaries from smaller warheads of the type Hezbollah likely has on their rockets being detonated from in incoming warhead would not be simultaneous enough to create the single sharp pulse necessary to create a shock wave like that. Now if they had a bulk explosives storage there or some kind of rockets/missiles with a large warhead, it would make more sense.

txags92 said:

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GAC06 said:

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txags92 said:

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GAC06 said:

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txags92 said:

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GAC06 said:

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I think the big explosion is the secondary. There's a flash right before it, then the big explosion

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A secondary from hitting a rocket cache would not send that kind of shockwave across the sky. Whether it was the first or a later hit, that was a large explosion.

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I didn't realize only certain explosions create shockwaves

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Only fairly large ones create shockwaves visible across a large area of the sky compressing the humidity out of the air.

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Yeah, that was a large one. Has nothing to do with whether it could be a weapons cache

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I was just basing it on the assumption that secondaries from smaller warheads of the type Hezbollah likely has on their rockets being detonated from in incoming warhead would not be simultaneous enough to create the single sharp pulse necessary to create a shock wave like that. Now if they had a bulk explosives storage there or some kind of rockets/missiles with a large warhead, it would make more sense.

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Recall that the giant blast in Beirut a few years ago with a similar shock wave was an accidentally detonation of a warehouse full of fertilizer that had been ignored for decades. A lot of explosives stored in a pile can produce this type of unitary blast.

It would seem to me that a weapons cache targeted for destruction would be more likely to blow up in this fashion if it was comprised of raw explosive material or thin-skinned rocket warheads rather than thousands of thick skinned artillery shells that are made to withstand the pressure of being launched from the bore of a cannon. A giant pile of explosives seems unlikely to be how Hezbollah would store their materiel just because it could be vulnerable to attack

I have seen an air dropped 1000 pound bomb detonate and the video of this explosion is a far bigger blast wave that I recall seeing. I believe I read that the Israelis have used 2000 pound bombs to target underground fortifications in Gaza so they have those. The other obvious possibility would be a thermobaric weapon a.k.a. a fuel-air explosive that is all blast wave and thermal pulse with no fragmentation.

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jagvocate said:

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BREAKING: Lebanon hit with massive bomb, one of the largest Israel has ever sent.

Developing.

Shockwave felt many many miles away..pic.twitter.com/FIDAaURdvj

— Douglas Macgregor (@DougAMacgregor) September 21, 2024

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Wonder if it was a MOAB trying to collapse some kind of underground bunker setup for Hezbollah's leaders?

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This looks like it was the case. Because they could no longer communicate via phone/pager/walkie talkie, the Hez military commanders went into a subterranean warren. The Israelis promptly deployed this bomb and basically took out a chunk of the operational leadership.

That was clearly NOT a nuclear explosion.

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That was clearly NOT a nuclear explosion.

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Who said it was?

I read that the walkie-talkie were set up so they'd go while at funerals after the beepers (Muslims have funerals within 24 hours) on camera. Pretty clever again.

Idiots on twitter.

SINWAR DEAD?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-israel-investigating-unlikely-possibility-that-hamas-chief-sinwar-has-been-killed-in-gaza/

Israeli Officials are Investigating the possibility that the Leader of Hamas, Yahya Sinwar was Killed in a recent Airstrike on the Gaza Strip. pic.twitter.com/mLOpzHaFp0

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 22, 2024

Some Israeli Security and Intelligence Officials believe the reports of Sinwar being Eliminated are Unfounded, though the sudden Lack of Communication from the Hamas Leader has many considering that he may have been Assassination or Severely Injured in one of the several recent…

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 22, 2024

If true, that would be a real shame...

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If true, that would be a real shame...

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And a very short reign.

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Some Israeli Security and Intelligence Officials believe the reports of Sinwar being Eliminated are Unfounded, though the sudden Lack of Communication from the Hamas Leader has many considering that he may have been Assassination or Severely Injured in one of the several recent…

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) September 22, 2024

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Considering that Hamas and Hezbollah are allies, is it possible that he had one of the communication devices that detonated last week?

I'm assuming that the two organizations are in communication.

Israel warning Lebanese close the southern border to pay attention to IDF warnings as the IDF uncovers Hezbollah missile sites embedded in civilian housing.

BREAKING 🚨

BLOOMBERG: Iran has expressed its willingness to reduce tensions with Israel, provided that Israel shows an equal commitment to de-escalation, according to President Masoud Pezeshkian, as reported by Bloomberg. https://t.co/aSGdVqWfK9 pic.twitter.com/eNCCiTEktU

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) September 23, 2024

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Israel hit 1,300 targets today in Lebanon and killed 500.

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Who reported this? Are the numbers from Hezbollah, Lebanon or Iran?

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YouBet said:

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Israel hit 1,300 targets today in Lebanon and killed 500.

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Who reported this? Are the numbers from Hezbollah, Lebanon or Iran?

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Found this:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-lebanon-hezbollah-e3ca9c83642056f962fdf76319e3b8de

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YouBet said:

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Israel hit 1,300 targets today in Lebanon and killed 500.

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Who reported this? Are the numbers from Hezbollah, Lebanon or Iran?

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WSJ - the Lebanese.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13896617/SETH-J-FRANTZMAN-neutralise-Hezbollah-send-tanks.html

This is a good read detailing why Israel is taking the fight to Hezbollah.

Staff: If I need to provide more than just a link to the story, then let me know and I will. I just don't have the time at the moment.

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BREAKING 🚨

BLOOMBERG: Iran has expressed its willingness to reduce tensions with Israel, provided that Israel shows an equal commitment to de-escalation, according to President Masoud Pezeshkian, as reported by Bloomberg. https://t.co/aSGdVqWfK9 pic.twitter.com/eNCCiTEktU

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) September 23, 2024

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The pager attack got everyone wide eyed….as it should

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Next Tehran should be carpet bombed into oblivion. The local populace has failed to replace the government.

I think that rule applies to starting new threads.

As Savage as it gets!