I am beginning to wonder if every "movement" is now astroturfing operations? I mean the last true grass root organization I remember was the Tea Party in 2010. Everything else has been staged and paid for?Quote:
Trump is not wrong.
There is a 'pro-life' industry.
The Abolitionist movement is far better.
"Pro-Lifers Are Grifters"-Trump
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Phatbob said:damiond said:Quote:
"Pro-Lifers Are Grifters"-Trump
it is in quotes and he never said it
why has the title not been changed
tds is strong here
It's clearly the message he was saying, but sure, the quotation marks in the title of the thread are the REAL issue here. TDS indeed
Clear. His message was he's helped pro life tremendously.
Question. What was the question he was asked? Why is Lyin DeSantis purposely trying to hide that fro his dozens of supporters?
aggiehawg said:I am beginning to wonder if every "movement" is now astroturfing operations? I mean the last true grass root organization I remember was the Tea Party in 2010. Everything else has been staged and paid for?Quote:
Trump is not wrong.
There is a 'pro-life' industry.
The Abolitionist movement is far better.
Don't forget MAGA... the 1 true movement with 1 true leader.
People did get rich in the pro life movement.
And didn't get any results until trump flipped the court.
He's right again
And didn't get any results until trump flipped the court.
He's right again
You guys are comical. Up until this afternoon it was "Trump is the most pro-life president in the history of mankind! We need to thank him for anything we've ever accomplished. "
Now suddenly it's "wow, Trump really opened my eyes to how corrupt the so called 'pro life' industry is"
Real life caricatures.
Now suddenly it's "wow, Trump really opened my eyes to how corrupt the so called 'pro life' industry is"
Real life caricatures.
And now Trump is walking back what all of us prolifers thought he understood we wanted when we said "pro-life" and not just "mostly prolife ". He may have helped create the SCOTUS that undid RvW, but now he's talking about negotiating something in the middle. Once again he holds his finger in the air to see where his base is leaning and not using his own moral compass (or lack there of). His morality doesn't drive any of his effortsitsyourboypookie said:
People did get rich in the pro life movement.
And didn't get any results until trump flipped the court.
He's right again
You are a Biden guy.Phatbob said:aggiehawg said:I am beginning to wonder if every "movement" is now astroturfing operations? I mean the last true grass root organization I remember was the Tea Party in 2010. Everything else has been staged and paid for?Quote:
Trump is not wrong.
There is a 'pro-life' industry.
The Abolitionist movement is far better.
Don't forget MAGA... the 1 true movement with 1 true leader.
Actually the "don't know" were inferred to make them more suspicious in context. Carry on though..Science Denier said:aggie93 said:I'm sure that made sense in your head but it seems kind of pointless to continue this. Have a laugh/cry emoji!Science Denier said:aggie93 said:These are his words:Science Denier said:I quoted his words. Never accused anyone of grifting. TDS affects one's ability to reason, but I didn't think it made one lose the ability to listen to actual video.Phatbob said:You're right, we are silly and must have TDS to actually listen to the words he uses and use the definition of English words, we just need to ignore those things and just assume he means whatever it is that makes us vote for him. That is the important thing.Sc said:
Pro life now can successfully negotiate in each state. Abortion is now up to states do there are 50 platforms.
Grifting. LMAO!!Quote:
"Everybody's raising money all the time ... maybe it's some kind of a business."
What exactly do you think he means by that if he isn't implying a grift?
Fighting for pro life IS a business. They work full time at it. It's their full time job.
In no way is calling it a business calling it grifting. That's just silly and way beyond even the most affected by TDS.
Lyin DeSantis
And you left off parts of his quoteQuote:
don't know. Maybe it's some kind of business, I don't know
Said I don't know twice.
So, his words say he doesn't know if it's a business.
Lyin DeSantis.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan
aggiehawg said:You are a Biden guy.Phatbob said:aggiehawg said:I am beginning to wonder if every "movement" is now astroturfing operations? I mean the last true grass root organization I remember was the Tea Party in 2010. Everything else has been staged and paid for?Quote:
Trump is not wrong.
There is a 'pro-life' industry.
The Abolitionist movement is far better.
Don't forget MAGA... the 1 true movement with 1 true leader.
Lol, the closest thing to a Democrat I've ever voted for was McCain in 2008. I can recognize when people let someone choose their position for them though, and this is as transparent of an example as it gets
That's a weak ad hominem.aggiehawg said:You are a Biden guy.Phatbob said:aggiehawg said:I am beginning to wonder if every "movement" is now astroturfing operations? I mean the last true grass root organization I remember was the Tea Party in 2010. Everything else has been staged and paid for?Quote:
Trump is not wrong.
There is a 'pro-life' industry.
The Abolitionist movement is far better.
Don't forget MAGA... the 1 true movement with 1 true leader.
Not supporting Trump does not equal supporting Biden.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Rapier108 said:That's a weak ad hominem.aggiehawg said:You are a Biden guy.Phatbob said:aggiehawg said:I am beginning to wonder if every "movement" is now astroturfing operations? I mean the last true grass root organization I remember was the Tea Party in 2010. Everything else has been staged and paid for?Quote:
Trump is not wrong.
There is a 'pro-life' industry.
The Abolitionist movement is far better.
Don't forget MAGA... the 1 true movement with 1 true leader.
Not supporting Trump does not equal supporting Biden.
1. It's a given that Trump will be the nominee.
2. When he wins, not supporting Trump = supporting Biden
3. Every vote not cast by registered voters gives the Dems one more vote they can make a false ballot for Biden as a "late received mail in ballot".
So yes. Even not voting for either Biden or Trump is giving Biden another fake ballot.
Fortunately in Texas, that will probably only matter in selected Congressional/judicial races and not the POTUS. But as we saw in Georgia and Arizona, that can. E a big deal also.
Lol that's not at all what he said
Not a single vote has been cast yet, and things like calling the prolife movement a business out for money is going to erode his support from people who care more about the issues than him.Quote:
1. It's a given that Trump will be the nominee.
Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify voting for a fraud.Quote:
2. When he wins, not supporting Trump = supporting Biden
Show up to vote but either only vote down ballot or vote 3rd party for Pres - That is what I will be doing.Quote:
3. Every vote not cast by registered voters gives the Dems one more vote they can make a false ballot for Biden as a "late received mail in ballot".
Voting for Trump is putting a stamp of approval on the process that put him there and the people who were willing to ignore every damn thing he said and did that was against conservative principles just because the left hates him. Hard no.
There's more than a decent chance that Trump has a negative health event before November of '24 anyway.
So Trump people..............are we back to the strategy of insulting those on your side in order to motivate them to get out and vote for you in just over a year? That's not even to mention moderates.
Still the winning strategy?
What's next? Gun owners?
Still the winning strategy?
What's next? Gun owners?
Have a feeling if Romney was the nominee vs Biden...many of these Trumpers would sit it out in protest and not cast a vote at all for president. Guarantee there are alot of Republicans that held their nose the first election and voted for Trump and then straight ticket and then in 2020, didn't vote for Trump but still voted R down ballot. People like to pretend this wasn't the case...but that's one reason Trump lost in '20. They call it being a liberal, while others just call it integrity.Phatbob said:Not a single vote has been cast yet, and things like calling the prolife movement a business out for money is going to erode his support from people who care more about the issues than him.Quote:
1. It's a given that Trump will be the nominee.Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify voting for a fraud.Quote:
2. When he wins, not supporting Trump = supporting BidenShow up to vote but either only vote down ballot or vote 3rd party for Pres - That is what I will be doing.Quote:
3. Every vote not cast by registered voters gives the Dems one more vote they can make a false ballot for Biden as a "late received mail in ballot".
Voting for Trump is putting a stamp of approval on the process that put him there and the people who were willing to ignore every damn thing he said and did that was against conservative principles just because the left hates him. Hard no.
The irony is in 15 years these same people who call you a liberal for not supporting him will be calling Trump an establishment RINO just like McCain, Romney and Bush.BluHorseShu said:
Have a feeling if Romney was the nominee vs Biden...many of these Trumpers would sit it out in protest and not cast a vote at all for president. Guarantee there are alot of Republicans that held their nose the first election and voted for Trump and then straight ticket and then in 2020, didn't vote for Trump but still voted R down ballot. People like to pretend this wasn't the case...but that's one reason Trump lost in '20. They call it being a liberal, while others just call it integrity.
Abolitionist movement! Aren't you the head of the movement to end people voting who aren't exactly like "me"?TheEternalPessimist said:Trump is not wrong.TRM said:
This is a rich statement. The ones that are grifting in the pro-life movement tend make garbage excuses for people that think heartbeat bills are a mistake.NEW: Trump accuses pro-life advocates of grifting.
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) September 27, 2023
"Everybody’s raising money all the time — I don’t know, maybe it’s some kind of a business. I don’t know what’s going on." pic.twitter.com/shFSiTIBmu
There is a 'pro-life' industry.
The Abolitionist movement is far better.
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3216564/replies/59865368
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3394951/replies/65480803Quote:
Only married people, aged 25 or older, with either biological or legally adopted children should have the right to vote. . .
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3382704/replies/65038722Quote:
That includes the unpopular ideas of repealing the 19th amendment, removing universal suffrage and make voting contingent on NOT being a recipient of government aid . . .
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3404868/3Quote:
"end women's suffrage" - Women's suffrage and universal suffrage have been harbingers of all the worst attributes of our society being normalized. Indeed, it's time to get rid of the 19th amendment.
Quote:
"Women are not property" - Correct.
"they deserve their right to vote" - Incorrect. Repeal the 19th. Universal suffrage has been a disaster.
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3372948/replies/64656465
Quote:
Only the head of household who are also property owners should have the right to vote.
If you ['re poor and] take more gov aid than you pay in taxes, you don't get to vote.
If you work for the government, you don't get to vote.
No more women voting except women who are widowed or abandoned by their husbands get to vote. Any man that abandons his family loses the right to vote.
. . .
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3343361/replies/63654765
And many others just in the last twelve months, only limited by the fact TexAgs doesn't want people to be able to look farther back than that on a particular forum.Quote:
I support the repeal of the 19th amendment AND restricting the vote to 1 voting male per household.
Unpopular opinion. Don't really care.
Urban Ag said:
So Trump people..............are we back to the strategy of insulting those on your side in order to motivate them to get out and vote for you in just over a year? That's not even to mention moderates.
Still the winning strategy?
What's next? Gun owners?
He didn't say anything the OP is claiming. So your question is irrelevant and you likely haven't listened to it either.
It's not wrong to question things. It's actually a good trait.
Urban Ag said:
So Trump people..............are we back to the strategy of insulting those on your side in order to motivate them to get out and vote for you in just over a year? That's not even to mention moderates.
Still the winning strategy?
What's next? Gun owners?
Trump has been more complimentary to Hillary Clinton than any of those people recently. Pretty damning.
When you're campaigning for POTUS as a Republican, openly questioning who's really benefitting from the money donated to pro-life organizations is a really dumb idea. He's once again attacking from the left. No potential to swing over more voters. Plenty of potential to drive conservative votes away.Yukon Cornelius said:Urban Ag said:
So Trump people..............are we back to the strategy of insulting those on your side in order to motivate them to get out and vote for you in just over a year? That's not even to mention moderates.
Still the winning strategy?
What's next? Gun owners?
He didn't say anything the OP is claiming. So your question is irrelevant and you likely haven't listened to it either.
It's not wrong to question things. It's actually a good trait.
Actually, the reason Trump received more votes than any republican in history was his ability to pull people from the left. It's not just Republicans. I think Republicans will vote for anyone that wins the nomination. It's the groups like union labor, minority voters and the working class that typically vote democrat came over in droves. Sure, it's important to get Republicans out, but it's more important to keep these Trump Democrats on board. That makes cheating that much harder.BluHorseShu said:Have a feeling if Romney was the nominee vs Biden...many of these Trumpers would sit it out in protest and not cast a vote at all for president. Guarantee there are alot of Republicans that held their nose the first election and voted for Trump and then straight ticket and then in 2020, didn't vote for Trump but still voted R down ballot. People like to pretend this wasn't the case...but that's one reason Trump lost in '20. They call it being a liberal, while others just call it integrity.Phatbob said:Not a single vote has been cast yet, and things like calling the prolife movement a business out for money is going to erode his support from people who care more about the issues than him.Quote:
1. It's a given that Trump will be the nominee.Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify voting for a fraud.Quote:
2. When he wins, not supporting Trump = supporting BidenShow up to vote but either only vote down ballot or vote 3rd party for Pres - That is what I will be doing.Quote:
3. Every vote not cast by registered voters gives the Dems one more vote they can make a false ballot for Biden as a "late received mail in ballot".
Voting for Trump is putting a stamp of approval on the process that put him there and the people who were willing to ignore every damn thing he said and did that was against conservative principles just because the left hates him. Hard no.
You keep these guys and add just a fraction of those that are pissed at Biden (both the massive policy fail and the massive corruption being uncovered), then there is no amount of cheating that can win.
These people care about America first policy over their leftist leaning. Trump won his first term because he was able to communicate over the massive media campaign to squash that narrative. Then, he proved he would fight for those things during his actual presidency, so they support him now. You know, do what you say you will do. Pretty "DUH", I agree, but it's important to realize this is why Trump has loyal followers.
If someone were to beat Trump, if they don't hammer home America first, these voters will return to the left. And I mean HAMMER because the media will do everything it can to squash that narrative.
This is why nobody has been able to come close to Trump and is why Trump is going to be the nominee. Hell, nobody in the race has been able to convince REPUBLICANS they are close to Trump. The chance that they can convince DEMOCRATS they need to flip like Trump did, is even lower.
It's a fair question. Are people hijacking things just to make money.
As one in the group of "Trump people", if I was guessing, I would guess that it's much worse to insult a few thousand people than over 70 million.Quote:
So Trump people..............are we back to the strategy of insulting those on your side in order to motivate them to get out and vote for you in just over a year? That's not even to mention moderates.
But, since I'm a listless vessel, I probably don't really know.
Define "things"Yukon Cornelius said:
It's a fair question. Are people hijacking things just to make money.
Keep laughingScience Denier said:As one in the group of "Trump people", if I was guessing, I would guess that it's much worse to insult a few thousand people than over 70 million.Quote:
So Trump people..............are we back to the strategy of insulting those on your side in order to motivate them to get out and vote for you in just over a year? That's not even to mention moderates.
But, since I'm a listless vessel, I probably don't really know.
Keep losing
Look, I know y'all don't care at this point. You couldn't. You're guy has absolutely no strategy to win. You don't even attempt to make the case that anything he is doing is going to lead to a win.
Well in this particular case it's people's desire to see other's be given the right to LIFE liberty and pursuit of happiness instead of being murdered by being chopped up into pieces.
Yep, he offered nothing but the statement that THE OPPOSITION to that is a business. No qualifiers, no specifics other than that. Whatchu got? Any receipts for this?Yukon Cornelius said:
Well in this particular case it's people's desire to see other's be given the right to LIFE liberty and pursuit of happiness instead of being murdered by being chopped up into pieces.
And this is your typical, rash, hastily formed (and uninformed!), response indiciative of TDS.ts5641 said:
This is your hero Trumpers.
Urban Ag said:Keep laughingScience Denier said:As one in the group of "Trump people", if I was guessing, I would guess that it's much worse to insult a few thousand people than over 70 million.Quote:
So Trump people..............are we back to the strategy of insulting those on your side in order to motivate them to get out and vote for you in just over a year? That's not even to mention moderates.
But, since I'm a listless vessel, I probably don't really know.
Keep losing
Look, I know y'all don't care at this point. You couldn't. You're guy has absolutely no strategy to win. You don't even attempt to make the case that anything he is doing is going to lead to a win.
We've told you. Many time. But the TDS REEEEE has distracted you.
1. Keep the base in tact that resulted in more votes than any other Republican in history
2. Get more democrats that voted for Biden to switch to voting for him. Call them independents or whatever. Don't need many in the swing states just tens of thousands more to show up so Dems can't use their registration to make up hundreds of thousands of "mail in ores that come in after voting day" (see Detroit in 2016).
3. Get RINOS in Congress out replaced with MAGA supporting members in so when is is in office, they actually vote FOR America.
4. Then you get 4 more years of getting tired of winning.
Science Denier said:Urban Ag said:Keep laughingScience Denier said:As one in the group of "Trump people", if I was guessing, I would guess that it's much worse to insult a few thousand people than over 70 million.Quote:
So Trump people..............are we back to the strategy of insulting those on your side in order to motivate them to get out and vote for you in just over a year? That's not even to mention moderates.
But, since I'm a listless vessel, I probably don't really know.
Keep losing
Look, I know y'all don't care at this point. You couldn't. You're guy has absolutely no strategy to win. You don't even attempt to make the case that anything he is doing is going to lead to a win.
We've told you. Many time. But the TDS REEEEE has distracted you.
1. Keep the base in tact that resulted in more votes than any other Republican in history
2. Get more democrats that voted for Biden to switch to voting for him. Call them independents or whatever. Don't need many in the swing states just tens of thousands more to show up so Dems can't use their registration to make up hundreds of thousands of "mail in ores that come in after voting day" (see Detroit in 2016).
3. Get RINOS in Congress out replaced with MAGA supporting members in so when is is in office, they actually vote FOR America.
4. Then you get 4 more years of getting tired of winning.
Is the 4 more years of winning anything like the last 4 years of winning?
That's not what Trump has discussed negotiating...Kvetch said:Ag with kids said:So, you're OK with expanding abortion rights in a number of states?Kvetch said:
He's not wrong. The people that have campaigned and fund raised for years as pro-life while not doing a damn thing about it are 100% grifters. That said, that doesn't make what Trump has been saying recently on the topic correct.
However, this is all overblown. Regardless of who is president, a total ban nor a 6-week ban is coming across their desk. Trump saying he will negotiate to set federal limits that are "reasonable" maximums may be the best opportunity we have to prevent infanticide in the blue states. And I'm skeptical of even that happening.
If you want to ban abortion at the federal level, it's going to have to be through a personhood amendment or reinterpretation of the 14th amendment. Too much evil pond scum to get a bill through Congress.
Setting a maximum does not take away that ability to set stricter restrictions.
You're not allowed to challenge the infallible...Old May Banker said:
What an odd pivot. Instead of just saying, "trump is wrong on this issue," you double down and then turn back to his covid response.
It's ok to say ANYONE, politician or not, is wrong occasionally.
Don't know.Science Denier said:aggie93 said:I'm sure that made sense in your head but it seems kind of pointless to continue this. Have a laugh/cry emoji!Science Denier said:aggie93 said:These are his words:Science Denier said:I quoted his words. Never accused anyone of grifting. TDS affects one's ability to reason, but I didn't think it made one lose the ability to listen to actual video.Phatbob said:You're right, we are silly and must have TDS to actually listen to the words he uses and use the definition of English words, we just need to ignore those things and just assume he means whatever it is that makes us vote for him. That is the important thing.Sc said:
Pro life now can successfully negotiate in each state. Abortion is now up to states do there are 50 platforms.
Grifting. LMAO!!Quote:
"Everybody's raising money all the time ... maybe it's some kind of a business."
What exactly do you think he means by that if he isn't implying a grift?
Fighting for pro life IS a business. They work full time at it. It's their full time job.
In no way is calling it a business calling it grifting. That's just silly and way beyond even the most affected by TDS.
Lyin DeSantis
And you left off parts of his quoteQuote:
don't know. Maybe it's some kind of business, I don't know
Said I don't know twice.
So, his words say he doesn't know if it's a business.
Lyin DeSantis.
You could be a complete idiot...I don't know...
So the only real option going forward if you oppose abortion and trans craziness is DeSantis.
It will be interesting to see how far to the left Trump can move before his hardline supporters finally give up goaltending.
It will be interesting to see how far to the left Trump can move before his hardline supporters finally give up goaltending.
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