"California will become the first state in the nation to impose an excise tax on gun and ammunition sales under a measure signed into law Tuesday by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

Starting next July, the state will collect an 11% tax on retail sales of guns, gun parts and ammunition."


Gavin calls it a sin tax:

"This is not a general income tax, it's not a corporate tax, it's from my perspective more of a sin tax,"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-enacts-first-statewide-gun-and-ammunition-tax-in-u-s-a36201f8




Yes, you have the right to bear arms, but you can't afford to.

If you are conservative, my rec would be to leave Cali asap.

Seems like something the courts would strike down…you know…the whole "shall not be infringed" thing. A sin tax on a constitutional right seems…unconstitutional.

Poll tax for gun buyers

He'll try this garbage nationwide as president.

****ing liberals

This is becoming the primary strategy of the progressive tyranny takeover. Make everything so expensive that no one can afford it except the super wealthy elites. They can't limit your freedoms through legislation very easily, so they just make everything so expensive that you no longer have the freedom to own anything. The most apparent and successful attacks on freedom the left makes are attacks on the free market.

The System said:

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Seems like something the courts would strike down…you know…the whole "shall not be infringed" thing. A sin tax on a constitutional right seems…unconstitutional.

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Cities have taxed guns and ammo purchases but not a state. Not sure if it's ever been challenged though.

We can't legislatively take away what we don't like so we'll tax you into submission

Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

Logos Stick said:

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The System said:

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Seems like something the courts would strike down…you know…the whole "shall not be infringed" thing. A sin tax on a constitutional right seems…unconstitutional.

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Cities have taxed guns and ammo purchases but not a state. Not sure if it's ever been challenged though.

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The state and municipalities in Texas all get tax money from firearm and ammo sales.... same as most other goods. But not an additional "sin" tax.

Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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Disband TABC then the ATF and cut the costs

Old May Banker said:

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Logos Stick said:

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The System said:

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Seems like something the courts would strike down…you know…the whole "shall not be infringed" thing. A sin tax on a constitutional right seems…unconstitutional.

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Cities have taxed guns and ammo purchases but not a state. Not sure if it's ever been challenged though.

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The state and municipalities in Texas all get tax money from firearm and ammo sales.... same as most other goods. But not an additional "sin" tax.

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Yes, but Im talking about a special excise tax on just guns and ammo, not a general sales tax. Some cities have special taxes.

If upheld, this will just drive up sales outside the state. Stores will pop up near the borders.

Crazy.

Let's tax law abiding citizens legally buying guns and ammo. That will fix "gun violence"

Oh wait, the majority of gun violence in California is used with guns not purchased legally. Go figure.

Make it harder for law abiding citizens to buy guns.
Make it easier to commit crimes.

What could go wrong?

deddog said:

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Make it harder for law abiding citizens to buy guns.
Make it easier to commit crimes.

What could go wrong?

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Wish I had it available but there's a chart that shows an inverse relationship between gun ownership and crime, it might have been murder. More guns means less crime

Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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Alcohol is not explicitly recognized in the constitution as a fundamental right.

Like taxing someone on the side of the road if they refuse a search of their car, or taxing you for exercising you right to speech.

Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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Is alcohol protected by the Constitution?

When's the law suit?

Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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So you would be ok with a poll tax?

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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Is alcohol protected by the Constitution?

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Think of the endless new revenue streams for the govt!

Tax for speaking in public
Tax for attending church
Tax for protesting
Tax for voting
Tax for refusing to house soldiers
Tax for pleading the 5th
Tax for requesting a speedy trial
Tax for not having cruel and unusual punishment

TAMUallen said:

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deddog said:

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Make it harder for law abiding citizens to buy guns.
Make it easier to commit crimes.

What could go wrong?

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Wish I had it available but there's a chart that shows an inverse relationship between gun ownership and crime, it might have been murder. More guns means less crime

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Grew up in a country where mostly bad guys have guns.

Women face the brunt of the crime. Maybe that will wake up the middle class white lib women. But i doubt it, you can take a donkey to water, but you can't make it drink.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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Is alcohol protected by the Constitution?

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LOL...the next democrat who cares about the constitution will be the first.

and the disconnect between the liberal ruling class and the common american just widens.

Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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Nor is taxing a polling place racism.

Old May Banker said:

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He'll try this garbage nationwide as president.

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Hell, I'd bet good money that he'll feel comfortable enough to actually bring it up during the campaign as one of his promises. He'll have the media support behind him obviously. And don't be mistaken by the echo chamber that this board tends to be - we might be appalled by it, but I bet he'd attract a not insignificant amount of voters just by this alone.

At that point it'd be crucial to have an opponent who's a true supporter of the 2nd Amendment and be willing and intelligently fight back against this issue in the debates. As opposed to an opponent who's soft on 2nd Amendment rights and has voiced support in the past for "taking the guns first, then figuring everything out later".

And if this is something that he does actually voice support for during the campaign, just imagine what he'll keep on the down low until he after he gets elected.

Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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This sounded much better in your head than how it appears post keyboard.

DeSantis needs to highlight this in their debate.

Bubblez said:

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Taxing alcohol is not prohibition

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The only response I have to the vacuousness of this statement would earn me a very long timeout.

Go ahead and tax free speech while you're at it. We don't need all these lol poors around here spouting off.

Out of all the "sins" in California, they want to create a "sin tax" on guns first?!?

Liberalism is a disease, through and through.

I'm going to go pray to St San Andreas.

Shall not be infringed.

Seems very infringe-ey

The System said:

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Seems like something the courts would strike down…you know…the whole "shall not be infringed" thing. A sin tax on a constitutional right seems…unconstitutional.

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This

deddog said:

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Make it harder for law abiding citizens to buy guns.
Make it easier to commit crimes.

What could go wrong?

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They don't care about gun violence or crimes. They don't want law abiding citizens to own guns.