RebelE Infantry said:

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Dimebag Darrell said:

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How insanely stupid do you have to be to think violent murderous criminals will decide to cease fire since you can no longer lawfully carry a gun on your person now. I would wager that 90+% of liberals just blindly support this type of action in every state.

Liberals are unfathomably stupid. Basic logic is their kryptonite.

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This may come as a a shock to you, but many of these people- especially those in power- don't actually believe this.

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But the sheep do. And they get their power from the sheep.

zoneag said:

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RebelE Infantry said:

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Dimebag Darrell said:

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How insanely stupid do you have to be to think violent murderous criminals will decide to cease fire since you can no longer lawfully carry a gun on your person now. I would wager that 90+% of liberals just blindly support this type of action in every state.

Liberals are unfathomably stupid. Basic logic is their kryptonite.

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This may come as a a shock to you, but many of these people- especially those in power- don't actually believe this.

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Conservatives always make the mistake of laughing at how "stupid" those in power on the left are. They're just evil and don't care if all conservatives do is laugh at their stupidity and hypocrisy because while we're laughing they're winning. Lujan will backpedal from this, but we should make no mistake that this is a trial balloon.

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Yep. Slow but sure desensitization.

At least 4 lawsuits have been filed so far.

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Agthatbuilds said:

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JUST IN: Residents in Old Town, Albuquerque OPENLY DEFY New Mexico Governor's emergency Executive Order BANNING THE OPEN AND CONCEALED CARRY of firearms…

pic.twitter.com/fdHqsL8sI3

— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) September 11, 2023

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There should be way more people than that protesting.

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These protests make me nervous in that you're one or Ray Epps or antifa member away from having the event play into the left's hands.

I'm not saying I disagree at all - just that the left likes to bait the right, and then use the right's misstep (real or fabricated) as justification for even greater lawfare.

1. Gov issues facially unconstitutional gun ban
2. Gun owners protest
3. Shots fired at protest
4. Gov uses heat of moment to push anti-gun legislation
5. Executive order moot, but leftists gain another few clicks on the societal ratchet regardless

Rebel Yell said:

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This is a pilot program in a low population state.

If successful, they will try it nationwide.

The pushback should be immediate and unwavering.

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I give a great deal of credence to this. A wide variety of Ds are crying out about the unconstitutionality of it. Not that they are standing up for gun rights, but they fully see it will get in the way of their other efforts to ban guns. A policy so stupid could only come from party hacks currently playing Weekend at Bernie's at the White House.

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This needs to be plastered and ran over and over on social media right alongside her order.

Well this plan of Grisham's own mental turpitude is working as everyone else had predicted…

https://www.krqe.com/news/albuquerque-metro/apd-one-man-dead-following-shooting-at-northwest-albuquerque-motel/

fixer said:

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Well this plan of Grisham's own mental turpitude is working as everyone else had predicted…

https://www.krqe.com/news/albuquerque-metro/apd-one-man-dead-following-shooting-at-northwest-albuquerque-motel/

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Governor's order didn't ban carrying in hotel rooms. Just on the street.

Patriots Unite!!

She hasn't rescinded her order and she hasn't been arrested.

BREAKING REPORT: New Mexico Attorney General Raul Torrez says he WILL NOT defend Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham in lawsuits she now faces over her BAN on carrying guns.

"Though I recognize my statutory obligation as New Mexico’s chief legal officer to defend state officials… pic.twitter.com/fmsR4ttUTk

— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) September 12, 2023

Wow. What a glimmer of hope for our country.

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Jock 07 said:

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Quite telling that the resident libs are avoiding this thread like the plague. They can't even think of a way to argue for this insanity.

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Libs, you want me to vote for Trump? Because this is the crap that will push me to vote for that orange a-hole.

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Ahahaha, nice!

Have the state police, the one tasked with enforcing the order, said anything?

torrid said:

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Have the state police, the one tasked with enforcing the order, said anything?

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Thankfully seems like she's on her own crazy island on this one.

https://apnews.com/article/albuquerque-guns-governor-concealed-carry-firearms-reject-ec5e8d57abc15687dd1b39d8cc197d96

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"It's unconstitutional, so there's no way we can enforce that order," Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen said during a news conference. "This ban does nothing to curb gun violence."

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Even leftists can't defend Queen Michele I of New Mexico:

In a letter to Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D-NM) regarding four impending lawsuit cases, Torrez shared the same sentiments from Democratic and Republican lawmakers and law enforcement, saying the ban violates the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens.

"Though I recognize my statutory obligation as New Mexico's chief legal officer to defend state officials when they are sued in their official capacity, my duty to uphold and defend the constitutional rights of every citizen takes precedence," Torrez wrote. "Simply put, I do not believe that the Emergency Order will have any meaningful impact on public safety but, more importantly, I do not believe it passes constitutional muster." …

"While I understand that frustration may have led you to undertake a unilateral approach to addressing the heart-wrenching challenge of gun violence in our community, I urge you to reconsider this course of action," Torrez wrote.

I respect the fact the the Democrats are calling BS on this as well. That's good and they should.

But again if they were truly serious about 'protecting the constitution' and 'saving Democracy' she would already be impeached.

This will go to the courts.
A judge will rule in favor of "stopping the emergency" upholding the ban.

Then all leftists will say "see", this is the right thing to do and a judge said it's legal.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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InfantryAg said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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JUST IN: Residents in Old Town, Albuquerque OPENLY DEFY New Mexico Governor's emergency Executive Order BANNING THE OPEN AND CONCEALED CARRY of firearms…

pic.twitter.com/fdHqsL8sI3

— Chuck Callesto (@ChuckCallesto) September 11, 2023

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There should be way more people than that protesting.

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These protests make me nervous in that you're one or Ray Epps or antifa member away from having the event play into the left's hands.

I'm not saying I disagree at all - just that the left likes to bait the right, and then use the right's misstep (real or fabricated) as justification for even greater lawfare.

1. Gov issues facially unconstitutional gun ban
2. Gun owners protest
3. Shots fired at protest
4. Gov uses heat of moment to push anti-gun legislation
5. Executive order moot, but leftists gain another few clicks on the societal ratchet regardless

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So you are worried about something that might happen, but hasn't actually happened?

Scruffy said:

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This will go to the courts.
A judge will rule in favor of "stopping the emergency" upholding the ban.

Then all leftists will say "see", this is the right thing to do and a judge said it's legal.

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And then it will go higher up the chain where it will be stricken down. Just subsitute habeus corpus instead of 2A, how far would that go?

Executives dont' have the authority to arbitrarily decide they can suspend rights. Any judge that would say this is acceptable should be tossed from the bench and tarred and feathered.

🚨 #BREAKING: A federal judge in Albuquerque has BLOCKED New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham’s effective suspension of the 2nd Amendment in the state.

This comes after both the NM Attorney General AND other *democrat* constitutional officers announced they’d be refusing… pic.twitter.com/tN5Ndzx9eV

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) September 13, 2023

Why did it take almost a week?

Pinochet said:

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Today a judge temporarily blocked sections of our public health order but recognized the significant problem of gun violence in this state. I refuse to be resigned to the status quo, and I will never stop fighting to prevent other families from enduring these tragedies. pic.twitter.com/qRfSCUaNIL

— Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham (@GovMLG) September 13, 2023

I can't tell if that dumb **** is doubling down or if she's now going with the tried and true "it started a conversation" bull*****

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Going with the "at least it started a conversation" line of reasoning