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Florida officials announced on Sunday that fuel purchased after 10 a.m. on Saturday was likely contaminated with diesel if it was supplied by CITGO from the Port of Tampa.
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FDACS has identified a potentially widespread fuel contamination caused by human error at the Port of Tampa. Any fuel purchased after 10 am on Saturday August 26, at stations supplied by Citgo from the Port of Tampa has a strong likelihood of being contaminated with diesel fuel.

— Florida Dept. of Agriculture & Consumer Services (@FDACS) August 27, 2023

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The Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (FDACS) made the announcement on social media, saying the contamination was caused by human error.

Gov. Ron DeSantis noted the announcement during a press conference regarding Tropical Storm Idalia, which is barreling toward the U.S. southern coast and could make landfall in Florida.

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DeSantis said an investigation into the fuel contamination and how widespread it is, is underway.
The governor also said the contamination was "just human error," and the workers put diesel in tanks that were supposed to be for regular gasoline.

"Obviously if you have a tank of gas, and it's 90% regular and 10% diesel, the dilution…probably may not ruin your car, but I mean if you put a whole tank of diesel in, that's going to be a major, major problem," DeSantis said.

He added that he spoke with FDACS Wilton Simpson, who said they were trying to get a list of all the gas stations that may have cross-contaminated fuel, so people know if they filled up at those stations.
The FDACS said if anyone believes they were sold contaminated gas, they can file a complaint by calling 1-800-HELP-FLA or by visiting fdacs.gov.

A spokesperson for CITGO told Fox News Digital that on Saturday, the company discovered contaminated product at its Tampa, Florida terminal because of a product routing issue at the terminal, and immediately shut down the rack.

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Logos Stick said:

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Never have I heard of that happening.

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C@LAg said:

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TBF I have always considered citgo gas to be contaminated.

and that is not even a lame attempt at blue stars. i find their gas always subpar and dirty when i am forced to use it.

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richardag said:

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C@LAg said:

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TBF I have always considered citgo gas to be contaminated.

and that is not even a lame attempt at blue stars. i find their gas always subpar and dirty when i am forced to use it.

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Just curious how you determined Citgo gas or for that matter any gas is inferior or dirty?

In the old days(60s/70s) I could tell when I replaced the spark plugs or performance was hindered or timing was off(misfiring). I haven't replaced spark plugs or had those issues in decades.


Thanks in advance.

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C@LAg said:

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richardag said:

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C@LAg said:

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TBF I have always considered citgo gas to be contaminated.

and that is not even a lame attempt at blue stars. i find their gas always subpar and dirty when i am forced to use it.

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Just curious how you determined Citgo gas or for that matter any gas is inferior or dirty?

In the old days(60s/70s) I could tell when I replaced the spark plugs or performance was hindered or timing was off(misfiring). I haven't replaced spark plugs or had those issues in decades.


Thanks in advance.

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i anally keep detailed vehicle fueling, mileage, maintenace records (26 years worth, a result of lots of driving around to clients when working since i liked to take my dog with me on business trips.)

and I always get subopar performance (rougher idling, reduced fuel economy) when using Citco gas.

Doesn't matter if it is the Jeep Wrangler, the Jeep Liberty or the wife's older 4Runner.

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ABattJudd said:

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i anally keep detailed vehicle fueling, mileage, maintenace records

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Seems like an overly complicated method, but to each his own I guess.

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richardag said:

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Thanks for the reply.

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BassCowboy33 said:

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I used to work on oil tankers, often transporting multiple different fuels in the same load. Frankly, I'm amazed this doesn't happen more often. It's a very fine line ports walk, with disaster often just one wrong valve away.

We ran coastwise routes, with the big stops always being Corpus, Houston, Beaumont, Brownsville, Baton Rouge, and Tampa.

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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Sabotage

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Rapier108 said:

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All it takes is a someone either connecting a pipe wrong, or transferring the wrong fuel from one tank to another.

Not everything is a grand conspiracy.

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Logos Stick said:

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Rapier108 said:

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All it takes is a someone either connecting a pipe wrong, or transferring the wrong fuel from one tank to another.

Not everything is a grand conspiracy.

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That can't happen. This is from a distributor. The hardware is different to ensure that can't happen. A gasoline tanker can't hook up to a diesel tank and vice versa.

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PA24 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Rapier108 said:

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All it takes is a someone either connecting a pipe wrong, or transferring the wrong fuel from one tank to another.

Not everything is a grand conspiracy.

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That can't happen. This is from a distributor. The hardware is different to ensure that can't happen. A gasoline tanker can't hook up to a diesel tank and vice versa.

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When the product was pumped into the terminal, the product went to the wrong tank. I worked gasoline/diesel pipelines and have seen this type of mistake more than once.

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BassCowboy33 said:

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I used to work on oil tankers, often transporting multiple different fuels in the same load. Frankly, I'm amazed this doesn't happen more often. It's a very fine line ports walk, with disaster often just one wrong valve away.

We ran coastwise routes, with the big stops always being Corpus, Houston, Beaumont, Brownsville, Baton Rouge, and Tampa.

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Logos Stick said:

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PA24 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Rapier108 said:

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All it takes is a someone either connecting a pipe wrong, or transferring the wrong fuel from one tank to another.

Not everything is a grand conspiracy.

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That can't happen. This is from a distributor. The hardware is different to ensure that can't happen. A gasoline tanker can't hook up to a diesel tank and vice versa.

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When the product was pumped into the terminal, the product went to the wrong tank. I worked gasoline/diesel pipelines and have seen this type of mistake more than once.

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No you haven't.

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PA24 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PA24 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Rapier108 said:

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All it takes is a someone either connecting a pipe wrong, or transferring the wrong fuel from one tank to another.

Not everything is a grand conspiracy.

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That can't happen. This is from a distributor. The hardware is different to ensure that can't happen. A gasoline tanker can't hook up to a diesel tank and vice versa.

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When the product was pumped into the terminal, the product went to the wrong tank. I worked gasoline/diesel pipelines and have seen this type of mistake more than once.

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No you haven't.

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LOL...

go against your distributor expert...lol.

Seriously, I managed a control center for gasoline and diesel pipeline that fed hundreds of tanks.

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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I used to work on oil tankers, often transporting multiple different fuels in the same load. Frankly, I'm amazed this doesn't happen more often. It's a very fine line ports walk, with disaster often just one wrong valve away.

We ran coastwise routes, with the big stops always being Corpus, Houston, Beaumont, Brownsville, Baton Rouge, and Tampa.

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At certain pressures different fuels are regularly run in the same pipelines. They can be physically separated by pigs, but I believe at certain pressures they won't mix and can be run side by side.

I agree, it's amazing it doesn't happen all the time. Hell, the delivery trucks just use a rotating placard.

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richardag said:

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C@LAg said:

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TBF I have always considered citgo gas to be contaminated.

and that is not even a lame attempt at blue stars. i find their gas always subpar and dirty when i am forced to use it.

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Just curious how you determined Citgo gas or for that matter any gas is inferior or dirty?

In the old days(60s/70s) I could tell when I replaced the spark plugs or performance was hindered or timing was off(misfiring). I haven't replaced spark plugs or had those issues in decades.


Thanks in advance.

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PA24 said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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I used to work on oil tankers, often transporting multiple different fuels in the same load. Frankly, I'm amazed this doesn't happen more often. It's a very fine line ports walk, with disaster often just one wrong valve away.

We ran coastwise routes, with the big stops always being Corpus, Houston, Beaumont, Brownsville, Baton Rouge, and Tampa.

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At certain pressures different fuels are regularly run in the same pipelines. They can be physically separated by pigs, but I believe at certain pressures they won't mix and can be run side by side.

I agree, it's amazing it doesn't happen all the time. Hell, the delivery trucks just use a rotating placard.

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wrong but close.

different batches are separated by the transmix that is the mixing of the different products and that is known as the interface.

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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PA24 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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PA24 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Rapier108 said:

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All it takes is a someone either connecting a pipe wrong, or transferring the wrong fuel from one tank to another.

Not everything is a grand conspiracy.

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That can't happen. This is from a distributor. The hardware is different to ensure that can't happen. A gasoline tanker can't hook up to a diesel tank and vice versa.

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When the product was pumped into the terminal, the product went to the wrong tank. I worked gasoline/diesel pipelines and have seen this type of mistake more than once.

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No you haven't.

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LOL...

go against your distributor expert...lol.

Seriously, I managed a control center for gasoline and diesel pipeline that fed hundreds of tanks.

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So assuming you're correct (I have no idea about this stuff) who's ass would be on the line for any damages?

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