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It's no secret. The Tuohys and Freeze used Oher to enrich themselves. Freeze got on staff at ol piss and and the Tuohys got a top recruit at their alma mater and paid handsomely at the same time.

They didn't adopt him out of the good of their heart. They saw the potential and everybody enriched themselves of Oher (including Oher himself). If they screwed him out of money, they will have to deal with that.

Freeze has always been a carny and supposedly so have Tuohys.

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Sounds like everyone won ? What was Ohers best outcome of he never met the tuohys? Certainly not an nfl career or fame

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He made other allegations against them at least a decade ago.

This particular thing might be new, but they've been on the outs for years.

Definitely something shady.

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Yep. I mentioned this over on the Premium thread, but the family's con-artist-like status was well known in writing circles.

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Can we get a source for this or start me somewhere for research? I'd like to look see it for myself.

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The source? Me. Former sportswriter and now TV reporter. To my knowledge, no deep dive has been published about it (I could be wrong. I've been out of the writing game for nearly a decade now), but my guess is that's about to change.

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You went INTO broadcast ten years ago... my condolences, my MMJ friend.

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Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful

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Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.

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ever thought if they had not taken him in he wouldn't have been as successful?? Seems like this family stepped in for whatever reason when his couldn't be bothered.

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The movie wildly distorts the timeline of his life. He was already a good student and showing out as an athlete when they took him in. The idea that they only found out he was a great athlete after the fact is a Hollywood myth.

It's been well understand for years that they took him in to funnel him to their alma mater knowing he was a great athlete. The NCAA literally said as much, but ultimately there's not technically any violations present there as long as they weren't working directly with the university or AD and their financial support in this scenario doesn't quality as impermissible benefits. There's no rule against influencing a player to go to your school under the circumstances they created for themselves. This story, if true, just takes things to a whole different level. But regardless this was never something done purely out of the goodness of their heart.

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It's no secret. The Tuohys and Freeze used Oher to enrich themselves. Freeze got on staff at ol piss and and the Tuohys got a top recruit at their alma mater and paid handsomely at the same time.

They didn't adopt him out of the good of their heart. They saw the potential and everybody enriched themselves of Oher (including Oher himself). If they screwed him out of money, they will have to deal with that.

Freeze has always been a carny and supposedly so have Tuohys.

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Sounds like everyone won ? What was Ohers best outcome of he never met the tuohys? Certainly not an nfl career or fame

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I mean they made a **** ton of cash off of him. I mean he won but would you not want what you think is owed to you if you thought they screwed you out of money? I think they idea that he ought to be satisfied with what he got when the Tuohys allegedly made millions off of his life story and got zilch is dumb.

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Oher didn't write the book.

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Neither did the Tuohys.

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What about when the book/movie says you adopted a kid that you wrote the book about when you actually didn't adopt the kid and you're just using him to make money?

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They didn't write the book.

https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Side-Evolution-Game/dp/0393330478

Michael Lewis did.

I would think Lewis would have gotten most of the money. But if the Tuohys negotiated a deal where they got everything else and Oher got nothing, it is pretty sleazy.

They didn't happen to just "adopt" a top flight football prospect at one of the most valuable positions in football. That was why they were featured in the book.

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Or...he's another Michael Bennett or Colin Kapernick, who turned on his benefactors years later.

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As it appears they were basically stealing money from him, that doesn't seem to be the case here.

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From the petition:
"The lie of Michael's adoption is one upon which Co-Conservators Leigh Anne Tuohy and Sean Tuohy have enriched themselves at the expense of their Ward, the undersigned Michael Oher," the legal filing says. "Michael Oher discovered this lie to his chagrin and embarrassment in February of 2023, when he learned that the Conservatorship to which he consented on the basis that doing so would make him a member of the Tuohy family, in fact provided him no familial relationship with the Tuohys."

So just six months ago, he discovered the plot of the Blindside was a lie? Presumably when he met with an attorney to discuss a potential lawsuit? Right...

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The movie always creeped me out a little.

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Michael Lewis did.

I would think Lewis would have gotten most of the money. But if the Tuohys negotiated a deal where they got everything else and Oher got nothing, it is pretty sleazy.

They didn't happen to just "adopt" a top flight football prospect at one of the most valuable positions in football. That was why they were featured in the book.

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Yes he wrote it. And I believe Oher was over 21 when it was written. So, the original deal goes back to him and how he came to acquire the rights to the story since it was nonfiction.

I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful

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Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.

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ever thought if they had not taken him in he wouldn't have been as successful?? Seems like this family stepped in for whatever reason when his couldn't be bothered.

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I don't know what the truth is here, but the most noble and "Christian" thing to do, would be to help someone with no strings attached. Let them earn money and use it how they see fit...if they want to pay it back out of gratitude, that's cool.

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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Wan't he a first round draft pick? He got paid by the NFL, right? And paid well?

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Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful

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Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.

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ever thought if they had not taken him in he wouldn't have been as successful?? Seems like this family stepped in for whatever reason when his couldn't be bothered.

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I don't know what the truth is here, but the most noble and "Christian" thing to do, would be to help someone with no strings attached. Let them earn money and use it how they see fit...if they want to pay it back out of gratitude, that's cool.

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Thats simply not reality in our society

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LarryElder said:

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Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful

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Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.

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ever thought if they had not taken him in he wouldn't have been as successful?? Seems like this family stepped in for whatever reason when his couldn't be bothered.

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I don't know what the truth is here, but the most noble and "Christian" thing to do, would be to help someone with no strings attached. Let them earn money and use it how they see fit...if they want to pay it back out of gratitude, that's cool.

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Thats simply not reality in our society

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Sure it is, millions of Christians act like Christians. Millions of non-Christians also do the right thing out of the kindness of their hearts.

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Or...he's another Michael Bennett or Colin Kapernick, who turned on his benefactors years later.

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what made you jump to this conclusion?

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I think it's just a possible hypothetical. Don't get the sense he was stating that as fact.

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LarryElder said:

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Think the proof of him voluntarily living in their house and all the pictures like above make this case seem silly.

Also, where was his real family if he was "tricked" some people are just awful

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Honestly, it just makes it more depressing. Dude thought he had a family, and they were secretly bilking money from his name.

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ever thought if they had not taken him in he wouldn't have been as successful?? Seems like this family stepped in for whatever reason when his couldn't be bothered.

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I don't know what the truth is here, but the most noble and "Christian" thing to do, would be to help someone with no strings attached. Let them earn money and use it how they see fit...if they want to pay it back out of gratitude, that's cool.

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Thats simply not reality in our society

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Sure it is, millions of Christians act like Christians. Millions of non-Christians also do the right thing out of the kindness of their hearts.

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LOL most Christians look out for their family first when it comes to finances my guess this is what happened here

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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I'm with you on this. I think the whole Brittany Spear Conservatorship issue from the past couple years may have gotten himself or people around him thinking about possibilities.

Money certainly can turn normal and nice people into greedy scumbags. However there are lots of unknowns here and lots of questions to be answered.

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It's no secret. The Tuohys and Freeze used Oher to enrich themselves. Freeze got on staff at ol piss and and the Tuohys got a top recruit at their alma mater and paid handsomely at the same time.

They didn't adopt him out of the good of their heart. They saw the potential and everybody enriched themselves of Oher (including Oher himself). If they screwed him out of money, they will have to deal with that.

Freeze has always been a carny and supposedly so have Tuohys.

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Sounds like everyone won ? What was Ohers best outcome of he never met the tuohys? Certainly not an nfl career or fame

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Rationalizing theft

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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I'm with you on this. I think the whole Brittany Spear Conservatorship issue from the past couple years may have gotten himself or people around him thinking about possibilities.

Money certainly can turn normal and nice people into greedy scumbags. However there are lots of unknowns here and lots of questions to be answered.

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I confess to being reall yconfused here. Was Oher under a guardianship while a minor? Or a conservatorship, meaning he could not handle any of his own finances even as an adult?

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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I'm with you on this. I think the whole Brittany Spear Conservatorship issue from the past couple years may have gotten himself or people around him thinking about possibilities.

Money certainly can turn normal and nice people into greedy scumbags. However there are lots of unknowns here and lots of questions to be answered.

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I confess to being reall yconfused here. Was Oher under a guardianship while a minor? Or a conservatorship, meaning he could not handle any of his own finances even as an adult?

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According to the story, it was after he turned 18

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Ron beats Don said:

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It's no secret. The Tuohys and Freeze used Oher to enrich themselves. Freeze got on staff at ol piss and and the Tuohys got a top recruit at their alma mater and paid handsomely at the same time.

They didn't adopt him out of the good of their heart. They saw the potential and everybody enriched themselves of Oher (including Oher himself). If they screwed him out of money, they will have to deal with that.

Freeze has always been a carny and supposedly so have Tuohys.

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Sounds like everyone won ? What was Ohers best outcome of he never met the tuohys? Certainly not an nfl career or fame

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Rationalizing theft

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Theft is a legal term. If what they did was legal, then you can argue ethics, but then you end back to the fact that he benefited immensely as well.

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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I'm with you on this. I think the whole Brittany Spear Conservatorship issue from the past couple years may have gotten himself or people around him thinking about possibilities.

Money certainly can turn normal and nice people into greedy scumbags. However there are lots of unknowns here and lots of questions to be answered.

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I confess to being reall yconfused here. Was Oher under a guardianship while a minor? Or a conservatorship, meaning he could not handle any of his own finances even as an adult?

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According to the story, it was after he turned 18

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And which was it? Guardianship or conservatorship? Difference in duties between the two.

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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I'm with you on this. I think the whole Brittany Spear Conservatorship issue from the past couple years may have gotten himself or people around him thinking about possibilities.

Money certainly can turn normal and nice people into greedy scumbags. However there are lots of unknowns here and lots of questions to be answered.

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I confess to being reall yconfused here. Was Oher under a guardianship while a minor? Or a conservatorship, meaning he could not handle any of his own finances even as an adult?

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I think he was legally an adult at the time of the adoption/conservatorship. They were allegedly deciding which way to go, but told him an adoption wouldn't really help since he was already an adult, but that the best route, at that point, would be to agree to a conservatorship.

I don't really want to point fingers here, but it seems to me that there was only one reason for them to try and convince him of that arrangement instead of just adopting him as an adult...

Always best to wait for more info but I tend to believe him here

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I think he was legally an adult at the time of the adoption/conservatorship. They were allegedly deciding which way to go, but told him an adoption wouldn't really help since he was already an adult, but that the best route, at that point, would be to agree to a conservatorship.

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But why? Was he mentally unfit in some way? And how much was he really worth, while at Ole Miss?

Maybe if the conservatorship was more closely related in time to where he was going the NFL and earning the big bucks that would make more sense to me. But not when he was in college.

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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Wan't he a first round draft pick? He got paid by the NFL, right? And paid well?

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Went 23rd in the first round. Signed a five-year, $13.8 million contract with the Baltimore Ravens.

On March 14, 2014, Oher signed a four-year, $20 million contract with the Titians.

On March 6, 2015, Oher signed a two-year, $7 million contract with the Panthers

Dude waited till 2023, 14 years after the movie came out to file a lawsuit. He's after money, because he spent all his on chains, cars and other crap that amounted to nothing.

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According to Google, he's currently worth 16 mil. So not really.

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I think he was legally an adult at the time of the adoption/conservatorship. They were allegedly deciding which way to go, but told him an adoption wouldn't really help since he was already an adult, but that the best route, at that point, would be to agree to a conservatorship.

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But why? Was he mentally unfit in some way? And how much was he really worth, while at Ole Miss?

Maybe if the conservatorship was more closely related in time to where he was going the NFL and earning the big bucks that would make more sense to me. But not when he was in college.

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He was clearly on track for big time money. 5*. Several large scholarship offers. #2 recruit in his state.

As to unfit, wouldn't be hard to show a judge that a kid from a terrible background with no true guidance could be a financial harm to itself, would it?

You know far more law than I do, but I think one could find a judge to sign off on that.

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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Wan't he a first round draft pick? He got paid by the NFL, right? And paid well?

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Went 23rd in the first round. Signed a five-year, $13.8 million contract with the Baltimore Ravens.

On March 14, 2014, Oher signed a four-year, $20 million contract with the Titians.

On March 6, 2015, Oher signed a two-year, $7 million contract with the Panthers

Dude waited till 2023, 14 years after the movie came out to file a lawsuit. He's after money, because he spent all his on chains, cars and other crap that amounted to nothing.

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According to Google, he's currently worth 16 mil. So not really.

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According to the article though, he is suing not only to end the conservatorship, but for his "fair share", and for punitive damages.

If all he had asked for was to end the conservatorship and for the family to stop using his name and likeness then I think everybody wouldn't be asking questions.

However, also in the article, it says he only decided to sue after he found out he legally isn't part of the Tuohy family. That indicates to me that he was fine with the Tuohy family accumulating wealth under the conservatorship thinking no he'd recoup a lot of it when they kicked the bucket. When he found out he wasn't going to get that money though, he probably got pissed.
(And that's also assuming the Tuohys were going to cut him out of everything and only give money to their blood).

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I may be way off base here, but I think someone is pissing in his ear telling him to pursue this. I really don't believe the family had sinister motives when they took him in.

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Wan't he a first round draft pick? He got paid by the NFL, right? And paid well?

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Went 23rd in the first round. Signed a five-year, $13.8 million contract with the Baltimore Ravens.

On March 14, 2014, Oher signed a four-year, $20 million contract with the Titians.

On March 6, 2015, Oher signed a two-year, $7 million contract with the Panthers

Dude waited till 2023, 14 years after the movie came out to file a lawsuit. He's after money, because he spent all his on chains, cars and other crap that amounted to nothing.

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According to Google, he's currently worth 16 mil. So not really.

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According to the article though, he is suing not only to end the conservatorship, but for his "fair share", and for punitive damages.

If all he had asked for was to end the conservatorship and for the family to stop using his name and likeness then I think everybody wouldn't be asking questions.

However, also in the article, it says he only decided to sue after he found out he legally isn't part of the Tuohy family. That indicates to me that he was fine with the Tuohy family accumulating wealth under the conservatorship thinking no he'd recoup a lot of it when they kicked the bucket. When he found out he wasn't going to get that money though, he probably got pissed.
(And that's also assuming the Tuohys were going to cut him out of everything and only give money to their blood).

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Oher wanting some of the money the Tuohys made from the story doesn't mean he's broke. I'm not sure if he's legally entitled to the money, or if the Tuohys actually made any, but if they did why shouldn't he want a cut? They ****ed him over in that regard if that's the case.