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Philip J Fry said:

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And not using these crazy ass terms is…transphobic? Queerphobic? Or is the +phobic? I have no idea, but I suspect they would cancel you for misgendering if you don't use these if they could.

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I've been told that it is a microaggression/hateful.

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If that is considered microaggression, then insisting on peculiar pronouns is "not being a team player".

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88planoAg said:

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Philip J Fry said:

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And not using these crazy ass terms is…transphobic? Queerphobic? Or is the +phobic? I have no idea, but I suspect they would cancel you for misgendering if you don't use these if they could.

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I've been told that it is a microaggression/hateful.

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If that is considered microaggression, then insisting on peculiar pronouns is "not being a team player".

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Or playing for the wrong team.

Nonphobichyperantisodomitical

yeah, that about covers it..

In business, these people need to be written up by HR as a distraction to daily business operations. Then again, how many would be hired?

MaroonStain said:

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In business, these people need to be written up by HR as a distraction to daily business operations. Then again, how many would be hired?

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Actually it could also work as a good screening process

Anyone promoting this on a resume or interview, game over.

As long as I never have to use them except in scrabble, I'm cool with them

It's simple for me. I hire a lot of people. If you have pronouns on your resume or ask me to refer to you a certain way, I immediately cut you from the hiring pool.

I just dont surround myself with idiocy after work. It's why we left the big city then Suburbia for rural Texas. The schools and people are far better for raising well adjusted kids and eventually adults.

Have y'all every met someone in real life who uses these? I work with teenagers and haven't met one. Anecdotal but I'm curious.

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I'm generally fine with respecting someone's reasonable preference for pronoun usage

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I'm not. You can't give these nutcases a single inch on this or they'll take a mile.
I'm using standard grammatically correct language that has been widely accepted for the past several centuries. We're not changing it just to cater to their delusions.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Have y'all every met someone in real life who uses these? I work with teenagers and haven't met one. Anecdotal but I'm curious.

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Yes, a lot of our HR and Marketing teams do this. I was asked to provide pronouns on a call one day and I chuckled and said "Texan"

For reference, I'm the Director of Sales.

Thanks. Young or older?

Some of the people I've seen use them are my age (40s) but not many my age or older. It's typically younger millenials and Gen Z who feel the need to be followers.

I'd say, maybe ~10% of the employees my age or older use them. It probably goes to 30-40% when talking about the younger crowds. As with anything, the older you get, the wiser you get and the less stupid **** you participate in (see pronouns).

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Have y'all every met someone in real life who uses these? I work with teenagers and haven't met one. Anecdotal but I'm curious.

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Yes, a lot of our HR and Marketing teams do this. I was asked to provide pronouns on a call one day and I chuckled and said "Texan"

For reference, I'm the Director of Sales.

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HR staff where I work as well.

I use 'pronouns adtoption' as a barometer for gauging whether a person leads with emotion or logic. I don't hire anyone who leads with emotion.

This is what happens when you are okay with a little bit of crazy.

It just pushes people to go further crazy to get the attention they need.

The combination of people look for cheap attention and the people looking for cheap moral high ground by touting their embracing of diversity is a corrosive chain reaction.

are they using the bull**** in the OP or the bull**** They/them or just listing their pronouns.

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MaroonStain said:

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In business, these people need to be written up by HR as a distraction to daily business operations. Then again, how many would be hired?

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Actually it could also work as a good screening process

Anyone promoting this on a resume or interview, game over.

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That's pretty much the rule for a lot of businesses. Anyone putting pronouns on their resume is not considered.

Also, companies now check applicants social media, and if the person has pronouns there, or is an obvious woke activist type, they are not even granted an interview because it is not worth it.

People like that are nothing but a cancer on the company.

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are they using the bull**** in the OP or the bull**** They/them or just listing their pronouns.

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Most is just he/him or she/her but we do have a couple who are attention seeking dolts who put the weird versions on there.

I never go to them for assistance. I go above them. They are simply HR coordinators.

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Have y'all every met someone in real life who uses these? I work with teenagers and haven't met one. Anecdotal but I'm curious.

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I have experienced xe/xer in real life.

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I chose what I will speak.

Others can do the same.

Nobody gets to demand what they will hear.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Have y'all every met someone in real life who uses these? I work with teenagers and haven't met one. Anecdotal but I'm curious.

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I've encountered three. Two in restaurants in Austin. Prob 20-25 in age. Neither were visibly bothered that I said "sir".

The third is my friends high school school daughter. I'm actually quite surprised how much they are adopting all this new lingo and legitimizing it. Parents divorced but both equally buying into the craze.

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Y'all might just make a convert out of me after all ... ;-)

As I read this article, all I could hear in my mind was Gunnery Sergeant Hartman saying, "Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?"

I'm generally fine with respecting someone's reasonable preference for pronoun usage, but JFC, this is some ridiculous ***** The majority of people I have encountered who use non-standard and/or obscure pronouns like this, I suspect do so as a means seeking attention or just want to feel special, even if only in their own minds.

Normally I would say do what makes you happy, but OMG. No, just no with this.

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You summed up the T and Q crowd, well, to a T.

I can read Anglo-Saxon, old English, middle English, and speak Dutch, German, and English. All of those are rooted in fact and history.
Yes, there were gender neutral pronouns in some of those languages. But if you're a blue hair who insists on archaic gender neutral pronouns, I'm going to insist on blundering my way through pronouncing sentences that haven't been spoken aloud in 800 years.

san francisco had a list of over 130 pronouns/ sex identities to choose from... priorities

https://readlion.com/from-skoliosexual-to-graygender-here-are-the-most-vexing-of-san-franciscos-130-gender-options/

I, seriously, have reached the point that if one of those assclowns want me to recognize their pronouns... I'll demand they recognze my adjectives. Handsome. Smart. Funny,

I won't be playing that game.

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Have y'all every met someone in real life who uses these? I work with teenagers and haven't met one. Anecdotal but I'm curious.

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Yes, a lot of our HR and Marketing teams do this. I was asked to provide pronouns on a call one day and I chuckled and said "Texan"

For reference, I'm the Director of Sales.

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When the AF said it was ok to put pronouns in the sig block on emails, I laughed and put "Colonel/Sir" in mine. That lasted about one email. Boss thought it was funny, but.....

To be fair, though, up until I retired last Dec, I never saw pronouns used in correspondence or met anyone who even announced them.

I'm just going to start calling everyone citizen or comrade. Those are gender free!

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I'm just going to start calling everyone citizen or comrade. Those are gender free!

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I prefer "dumbazz". There is a good chance if someone has preferred pronouns it's appropriate.

The only way to respond to people who worship at the pronoun alter is to mock and laugh at them.

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Y'all might just make a convert out of me after all ... ;-)

As I read this article, all I could hear in my mind was Gunnery Sergeant Hartman saying, "Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?"

I'm generally fine with respecting someone's reasonable preference for pronoun usage, but JFC, this is some ridiculous ***** The majority of people I have encountered who use non-standard and/or obscure pronouns like this, I suspect do so as a means seeking attention or just want to feel special, even if only in their own minds.

Normally I would say do what makes you happy, but OMG. No, just no with this.

https://www.cnn.com/us/neopronouns-explained-xe-xyr-wellness-cec/index.html

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xe/xyr (commonly pronounced zee/zeer)
I asked xyr to come to the movies. Xe said yes!
ze/zir or ze/hir (commonly pronounced zee/zeer or zee/heer)
The teacher graded zir paper today, and ze got an A!
Ze said hirself that I'm hir favorite neighbor.
fae/faer (commonly pronounced fay/fair)
Fae told me that faer best friend is in town this week.
ey/em/eir (commonly pronounced aye/em/air)
I'm taking em to the park today. Ey wants to bring eir camera to capture the garden for emself!
ae/aer (commonly pronounced aye/air)
Ae is my best friend most of aer's weekday evenings are spent at my house.

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This is just lunacy, and I had people like this bully me and worse for refusing to agree with their crap about pronouns.

Why do people care so much how people refer to them these days!? It's driving me absolutely insane.

There may be some hurt feelings if someone is expecting me to use "xe" or "xir" or some other nonsense. I will use he/she and him/her and if I use one and they are actually the opposite, then work harder at looking like your actual gender. Will be doing the best I can at what I can tell from your looks. But will not play the game of preferred pronouns.

If they don't want to associate with me because of that, then it is a win-win because I will be much better off not having people like that in my life.

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It is like some elf language.

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That's exactly what it reminds me of...dorks at Comic Con using their own language and being offended if you don't understand it or take part in their 'reality'.

From the article:

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For someone who uses the nounself pronoun "leaf," that may look like: "I hope leaf knows how proud we are that leaf is getting to know leafself better!" or "Leaf arrived at the coffee shop before me; I was mortified to have been late to meet leaf."

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Please, excuse my lack of eloquence, but yeah, f*** this s***

Your crazy is not my problem