More catering.

Taco bar for 125.
Chips and all 4 dips.
3 gallons of Margarita
2 gallons each sweet tea, unsweetened tea, lemonade, and limeade

College towns do a lot of parties in offices.

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Crumbl cookie with1036 locations across the US gotta be the next on the chopping block.

And they gotta start closing free standing Pizza Huts at some point. One stays open nearby with the lights on but you never see a single car in the lot.

Covid wrecked the restaurant industry's ass like nothing we've ever seen.

Almost all restaurants running with a disenchanted skeleton crew. You go in most places and **** is in disarray. Employees are laxidasical and disorganized like it's the employees their first day ever working at a restaurant.

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When the job can't come close to paying a living wage, you can't expect max effort.

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When the job can't come close to paying a living wage, you can't expect max effort.

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What is a living wage? We've gone through this. There is no such thing as a living wage and Seattle has proven that raising the prices by adding 15% to provide healthcare on top of a $15/hr pay, along with the Tip... isn't sustainable. It hurts people at the bottom MORE than it helps them.

If you can't make money as an employee in hospitality... specifically restaurants and hotel bars... hospitality isn't for you.

I made $12-15/hr in the '90s waiting tables. Today, servers are making $150+/day waiting tables. It isn't a lifestyle for everyone and not everyone can be successful... In the old days, that weeded itself out. People who gave poor service didn't get tipped well and had to find another job. Those that were good at it, made money and stayed in it. When I graduated from A&M my salary wasn't a pay increase, although I did get benefits, vacation, and paid holidays.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Crumbl cookie with1036 locations across the US gotta be the next on the chopping block.

And they gotta start closing free standing Pizza Huts at some point. One stays open nearby with the lights on but you never see a single car in the lot.

Covid wrecked the restaurant industry's ass like nothing we've ever seen.

Almost all restaurants running with a disenchanted skeleton crew. You go in most places and **** is in disarray. Employees are laxidasical and disorganized like it's the employees their first day ever working at a restaurant.

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When the job can't come close to paying a living wage, you can't expect max effort.

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If you can't be trusted with a low level job, you can't be trusted with anything more. A person with your attitude will find an excuse to not put forth max effort regardless of pay.

You agreed to swap your time for the money they pay you. Do your best.

You know very little about me or my work ethics.

My point was simply that with prices skyrocketing and pay at a point people cannot make rent payments if they intend to eat, combined with astronomical unemployment, even for educated and industrious people who want to work, you can't expect a tier work from f tier pay.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Crumbl cookie with1036 locations across the US gotta be the next on the chopping block.

And they gotta start closing free standing Pizza Huts at some point. One stays open nearby with the lights on but you never see a single car in the lot.

Covid wrecked the restaurant industry's ass like nothing we've ever seen.

Almost all restaurants running with a disenchanted skeleton crew. You go in most places and **** is in disarray. Employees are laxidasical and disorganized like it's the employees their first day ever working at a restaurant.

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When the job can't come close to paying a living wage, you can't expect max effort.

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I live in the Houston suburbs...I love it because many of the establishments out here are staffed with high schoolers or college kids who actually seem to care about the level of service they are giving...black, white, asian, hispanic...almost all have a great attitude and drive to do the job right and make the customer happy...but they know this is just temporary, to earn their way to bigger and better things.

In Houston, just about every fast food place was staffed by a very different type of person and it was a very rare breath of fresh air to come across someone with a good attitude who wants to do their job the right way. This was the peak of their career and they were pretty much lifers at this point.

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You know very little about me or my work ethics.

My point was simply that with prices skyrocketing and pay at a point people cannot make rent payments if they intend to eat, combined with astronomical unemployment, even for educated and industrious people who want to work, you can't expect a tier work from f tier pay.

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I'm not saying "you" as in you personally.

Down goes TGI Friday's. Who's next?

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Ag_of_08 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Crumbl cookie with1036 locations across the US gotta be the next on the chopping block.

And they gotta start closing free standing Pizza Huts at some point. One stays open nearby with the lights on but you never see a single car in the lot.

Covid wrecked the restaurant industry's ass like nothing we've ever seen.

Almost all restaurants running with a disenchanted skeleton crew. You go in most places and **** is in disarray. Employees are laxidasical and disorganized like it's the employees their first day ever working at a restaurant.

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When the job can't come close to paying a living wage, you can't expect max effort.

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I live in the Houston suburbs...I love it because many of the establishments out here are staffed with high schoolers or college kids who actually seem to care about the level of service they are giving...black, white, asian, hispanic...almost all have a great attitude and drive to do the job right and make the customer happy...but they know this is just temporary, to earn their way to bigger and better things.

In Houston, just about every fast food place was staffed by a very different type of person and it was a very rare breath of fresh air to come across someone with a good attitude who wants to do their job the right way. This was the peak of their career and they were pretty much lifers at this point.

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Your first paragraph is chic-fil-a, in-n-out, and dutch bros. Your second paragraph is almost all the rest...carls jr, jack in the box, McDonalds, Burger King, etc. Kind of funny just how consistent that is.

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dutch bros.

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Always has a bunch of motivated kids working. Never had a problem there.

One out of three restaurant workers are undocumented. When Trump deports them (along with the labor force that grows, harvests, and processes most of the food in this country), that CNN story is likely to have an interesting comeback.

FlyRod said:

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One out of three restaurant workers are undocumented. When Trump deports them (along with the labor force that grows, harvests, and processes most of the food in this country), that CNN story is likely to have an interesting comeback.

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You mean here illegally. That said, Trump isn't going to deport millions of people, no matter how good it sounds to his base.

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One out of three restaurant workers are undocumented. When Trump deports them (along with the labor force that grows, harvests, and processes most of the food in this country), that CNN story is likely to have an interesting comeback.

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Never seen that stat. Can you back it up?


Cut all social programs for able bodied people. That will get people to work.

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FlyRod said:

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One out of three restaurant workers are undocumented. When Trump deports them (along with the labor force that grows, harvests, and processes most of the food in this country), that CNN story is likely to have an interesting comeback.

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Never seen that stat. Can you back it up?


Cut all social programs for able bodied people. That will get people to work.

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Wear an INS hat into a few local restaurants. Qualitative research - see how many people are eager to serve you.

People blame Covid, but that's not what's still cratering the industry.

We've forced higher wages on the owners. Those raises prices.

Inflation has raised the cost of goods (from the goods themselves, deliver, insurance, utilities, rent, etc). Those raises prices.

Raising prices that drastically, that quick, means you price consumers out, and they cut back. That means higher costs and lower revenues for the owners.

This is very basic economics.

I saw a Restaurant owner interviewed on the news last night. A few years ago, one unit of chicken would cost him $42. Now, the same unit of chicken costs him $170. That isn't sustainable.

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FlyRod said:

One out of three restaurant workers are undocumented. When Trump deports them (along with the labor force that grows, harvests, and processes most of the food in this country), that CNN story is likely to have an interesting comeback.

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This is a red herring argument, that people often make.

A. Trump and Vance have stated over and over again, it will be a slow deportation, starting with criminals.
B. We can improve the system, and not rely only on undocumented labor. Why can't we allow a labor force in, which are documented? Register them through the employers.
C. Cut off the freebies, and many will go back on their own. The ones left are workers, who contribute.

The argument is framed as if....'allow illegals in, or we can't function'. Those aren't the only two options.

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dutch bros.

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Always has a bunch of motivated kids working. Never had a problem there.

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I think that was his point.

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— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) November 1, 2024

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William Foster said:

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Ag_of_08 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Crumbl cookie with1036 locations across the US gotta be the next on the chopping block.

And they gotta start closing free standing Pizza Huts at some point. One stays open nearby with the lights on but you never see a single car in the lot.

Covid wrecked the restaurant industry's ass like nothing we've ever seen.

Almost all restaurants running with a disenchanted skeleton crew. You go in most places and **** is in disarray. Employees are laxidasical and disorganized like it's the employees their first day ever working at a restaurant.

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When the job can't come close to paying a living wage, you can't expect max effort.

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I live in the Houston suburbs...I love it because many of the establishments out here are staffed with high schoolers or college kids who actually seem to care about the level of service they are giving...black, white, asian, hispanic...almost all have a great attitude and drive to do the job right and make the customer happy...but they know this is just temporary, to earn their way to bigger and better things.

In Houston, just about every fast food place was staffed by a very different type of person and it was a very rare breath of fresh air to come across someone with a good attitude who wants to do their job the right way. This was the peak of their career and they were pretty much lifers at this point.

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Your first paragraph is chic-fil-a, in-n-out, and dutch bros. Your second paragraph is almost all the rest...carls jr, jack in the box, McDonalds, Burger King, etc. Kind of funny just how consistent that is.

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Yeah, but even the two Whataburgers near me in Cypress are much better than the ones that were near my old places in the Heights and Oak Forest. Just a diff type of employee. To be fair, I haven't been to any of those other establishments, I see what you are saying though.

Also notice a higher caliber employee in general at Kroger and HEB out here.

Illegal immigration creates a black market for labor. This is typically at the expense of low skill native labor that competes with them. Fixing immigration will go a long way in fixing this "living wage" issue and prompt a real incentive to improve legal immigration. Who knows, maybe we even get improved temporary work visas.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Crumbl cookie with1036 locations across the US gotta be the next on the chopping block.

And they gotta start closing free standing Pizza Huts at some point. One stays open nearby with the lights on but you never see a single car in the lot.

Covid wrecked the restaurant industry's ass like nothing we've ever seen.

Almost all restaurants running with a disenchanted skeleton crew. You go in most places and **** is in disarray. Employees are laxidasical and disorganized like it's the employees their first day ever working at a restaurant.

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When the job can't come close to paying a living wage, you can't expect max effort.

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Do you happen to work for Federal Government?

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Down goes TGI Friday's. Who's next?

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Am I the only one surprised to learn they were still in business? I don't think I've seen a TGIF since the 90s.