I just assume "progress" means progressing towards the destruction of things they hate like capitalism, the American dream and land of opportunity, merit-based reward systems, god and religion, and the nuclear family and moving towards the heavenly utopia of socialism and ultimately communism.

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I was up for a race last summer. What people dont realize is that most humans up there hate this **** and didnt vote for it.

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The people I work with hate what's going on, and criticize their local/federal leaders constantly...but they definitely vote left every chance they get.

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yup. This video shows the effects of decriminalization of drugs in Portland. Zombies walking around everywhere.

They start interviewing shop owners at 11:30.

12:13 is the moneyshot. They'll continue voting the way they do even after the colossal failure blowing up right before their eyes.

Abbott needs to send bus loads up there. We are an equal opportunity provider.

Portland is dead.
When I was a bit younger I would ride the light rail from PDX to downtown all of the time. I returned to Portland last year and of course I rode the rail. What a sight, tent cities of drug addicts at every overhead and level rail right of way. I took Uber back to PDX...

Have never been, won't ever be going.

Depends on how you define "progress". A terminal cancer progresses until it ultimately kills its host. That seems very similar to what happens when progressives gain power as well.

I agree tho, the "progressive" label does suggest positives but the positives seldom if ever happen. "Regressives" would be a more fitting label.

Might I also suggest "Malignant progressives" as an alternate label.?

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I was up for a race last summer. What people dont realize is that most humans up there hate this **** and didnt vote for it. The people i met there that were working, or business owners, all had very american/texan values. Same with most everyone living outside the freaking city limits. I saw more trump signs in rural oregon than i ever have in texas.

There is just a fraudulent government machine and core group of useful idiots that control the voting.

This **** has to be addressed. Its not something to rejoice in or say 'suck it you voted for it'. A hell of a lot of good people didnt.

It says 56% or oregon voted for biden…maybe so, but these are literally all just homeless ****s, habitual dem pensioners, unemployed or brainwashed students or academics, or useful idiot tech morons. The real people up there are getting ****ed. They know it and they hate it.

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This is pretty accurate. I moved to Portland in 2005 and still live here. I don't know anyone that isn't pissed at the state of things. Vocal minority and ****ty local government are killing this city. The silent majority is finally becoming more vocal. I think things will turn for the better, but there's a LONG road ahead to recover.

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Why wasn't 110 put on the ballot again to remove the effective legalization of hard drugs then? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the situation, but I find it inconceivable that there are OD's all around the city all day, open air drug markets, people defecating* in public, crime up, homelessness up a staggering 50%, none of the backend support the all but legalization 110 was sold with (mental health, rehab, what have you). Etc. - I think it's policy built on a fantasy anyway, but even if it had a chance to work, it can't, because it's only halfway implemented really.. the destructive part..

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I think all these cities know that ultimately the feds will bail them out as long as there are like-minded politicians in power in Washington. There's no accountability in the decisions they make because the safety net is there.

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Unfortunately I believe you may be correct.

ETA: and the Fed bailouts will not correct the problem

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I was up for a race last summer. What people dont realize is that most humans up there hate this **** and didnt vote for it. The people i met there that were working, or business owners, all had very american/texan values. Same with most everyone living outside the freaking city limits. I saw more trump signs in rural oregon than i ever have in texas.

There is just a fraudulent government machine and core group of useful idiots that control the voting.

This **** has to be addressed. Its not something to rejoice in or say 'suck it you voted for it'. A hell of a lot of good people didnt.

It says 56% or oregon voted for biden…maybe so, but these are literally all just homeless ****s, habitual dem pensioners, unemployed or brainwashed students or academics, or useful idiot tech morons. The real people up there are getting ****ed. They know it and they hate it.

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This is pretty accurate. I moved to Portland in 2005 and still live here. I don't know anyone that isn't pissed at the state of things. Vocal minority and ****ty local government are killing this city. The silent majority is finally becoming more vocal. I think things will turn for the better, but there's a LONG road ahead to recover.

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Why wasn't 110 put on the ballot again to remove the effective legalization of hard drugs then? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the situation, but I find it inconceivable that there are OD's all around the city all day, open air drug markets, people defecating* in public, crime up, homelessness up a staggering 50%, none of the backend support the all but legalization 110 was sold with (mental health, rehab, what have you). Etc. - I think it's policy built on a fantasy anyway, but even if it had a chance to work, it can't, because it's only halfway implemented really.. the destructive part..

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I'm not a tin-foil hat wearing dude, but Oregon government is pretty corrupt. Objectively.

When 110 passed, it was funded by a weed tax to build rehab and other infrastructure to help. $300m / year later in tax revenue, no infrastructure to speak of, and no idea where that money went: https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/the-story/measure-110-marijuana-funding-bill/283-d39ef625-b04f-47d8-8a31-db11f176fcb4

We know where it's been going and why it won't be re-criminalized; nor will the infrastructure ever materialize.

E.g., onc instance: La Mota, the largest weed chain in OR. They owed $7m in state taxes, had creditors lined up, yet were one if the most influential people in the last state election.

They were major donors to all Dem candidates: https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/05/03/a-timeline-of-shemia-fagans-dealings-with-la-mota/. The Oregon Secretary of State repeatedly had donations from the couple and immediately withdrew the funds for "campaign" reasons.

She wins the bid. The same month, Fagan "re-scopes" how the state audits La Mota. She would then become a consultant for La Mota (through a fake business) for $10k / month while still serving as Oregon Secretary of State. This is not conjecture, the emails, payments, minutes, etc. have all leaked.

La Mota owners are on the run. Kotek is also all wrapped up in this, but hasn't stepped down (but happily took all those donations).

https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/06/14/as-the-feds-close-in-the-founders-of-la-mota-are-hard-to-find/


https://www.wweek.com/news/state/2023/05/04/fagan-allowed-la-motas-co-owner-to-edit-language-describing-scope-of-state-audit/


https://www.wweek.com/news/2023/05/02/oregon-secretary-of-state-shemia-fagan-resigns/
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Guess who was also owned the purvey of auditing the Measure 110, $300m+, slush fund?

Very interesting. Thanks for the insight.

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I was up for a race last summer. What people dont realize is that most humans up there hate this **** and didnt vote for it. The people i met there that were working, or business owners, all had very american/texan values. Same with most everyone living outside the freaking city limits. I saw more trump signs in rural oregon than i ever have in texas.

There is just a fraudulent government machine and core group of useful idiots that control the voting.

This **** has to be addressed. Its not something to rejoice in or say 'suck it you voted for it'. A hell of a lot of good people didnt.

It says 56% or oregon voted for biden…maybe so, but these are literally all just homeless ****s, habitual dem pensioners, unemployed or brainwashed students or academics, or useful idiot tech morons. The real people up there are getting ****ed. They know it and they hate it.

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Hell, I saw more confederate signs in rural Oregon than I've seen in Texas the one time I was there.

CNN told me it was Trumps fault.

Do they not still have the nightly riots? Can't believe they never figured out a way to monetize those signature events...

/s

such a pretty area
unfortunate

I think they'll get a boost to their economy and morale when the Disney live action remake comes out of Snow White and the 7 Portlanders

Hearing those homeless talk is so sad. They need Jesus.

I can provide one data point.

Neighbors daughter lived in Portland and worked for a law firm that represents one of the 2 main political parties.

Not much doubt on her voting record... hauled azz to Chicago in a hurry this year while losing her rear on house. According to her it was horrifically bad.

I have no doubt her voting record will remain intact in Chicago. They have no clue that the way they vote is the cause.