Andy Ngo vs. ANTIFA trial

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pdc093
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Underway in Portland. Ezra Levant (indi journalist) is there covering it.
A couple of minutes in, he decides he's not safe.

ts5641
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It'll be hard getting enough non-leftist jurors in Portland to actually be fair.
torrid
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How do you sue something that is only an ideology and not an organization?
Rapier108
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A Portland judge/jury.

He has about as much chance as Trump does of a fair trial in D.C.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Harry Stone
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is he suing as a hate crime?
aggiez03
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Interesting to see if he is suing individuals, the person funding Antifa, or who actually the defendant is.

Also, interesting they did not try to get a change of venue.

Portland seems one of the worst possible places for this lawsuit to happen
Sid Farkas
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Interesting Portland connection to Tom Metzger and the aryan resistance...

Tom Metzger, California Racist Associated With Infamous Portland Murder, Dies at 82 (wweek.com)

Quote:

The White Aryan Resistance founder lost a 1990 Portland court case that tied him to the murder of an Ethiopian immigrant.

A Portland jury ordered Metzger in 1990 to pay $5 million for his role in the racially motivated 1988 murder of Ethiopian immigrant Mulugeta Seraw.

Three young skinheads associated with the Portland white supremacist group East Side White Pride beat Seraw to death with a baseball bat in the Kerns neighborhood in 1988.

Two years later, a Southern Poverty Law Center attorney convinced the jury in a civil lawsuit that Metzger trained and motivated the men and was partly responsible for Seraw's murder.
LoudestWHOOP!
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ts5641 said:

It'll be hard getting enough non-leftist jurors in Portland to actually be fair.
Also consider that the only purpose of Antifa is to be the Brownshirts/KKK for the Leftist in the 21st century.
Antifa will know every jurors name, family members and home address and do what it takes to get the right verdict.
pdc093
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He (Andy) spent a considerable amount of time identifying those that assaulted, and put him in the hospital. Most, if not ALL, are Portland scum. The video is hard to watch. He's barely able to stumble away from the people swarming him. They are VICIOUS. I don't think it's going to end with an easy victory for ANTIFA. Over the last 3 years (and before), the people who make up the jury have seen their city turned to absolute sheet. We might be surprised at the outcome....
TexAgs91
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torrid said:

How do you sue something that is only an ideology and not an organization?
Don't derail with libspeak
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
Ad Lunam
Ellis Wyatt
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Harry Stone said:

is he suing as a hate crime?
Better question: is suing liberals now considered a hate crime?
AGHouston11
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Jury of your peers seems to not exist in many areas now
tk111
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Isn't Andy Ngo gay and asian? Ultra woke leftists arent always bold enough to be antifa thugs...but they sure as hell wont be seen as bigoted by ruling against the marginalized if the attorney makes them believe it. I'd say hes gotta a pretty good shot.
torrid
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The professor who smacked a guy in the head with a bike lock in Oakland got off with probation only.
Rapier108
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tk111 said:

Isn't Andy Ngo gay and asian?
Yes
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
samurai_science
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Rapier108 said:

tk111 said:

Isn't Andy Ngo gay and asian?
Yes
That will help him
tk111
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samurai_science said:

Rapier108 said:

tk111 said:

Isn't Andy Ngo gay and asian?
Yes
That will help him
That was my point...everyone seems to be lamenting that its a given he'll get a leftist jury. What do you think their programmed response is going to be when his lawyer gets up to present the "look what they did this poor gay minority" evidence?
Central Committee
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The value in the lawsuit goes beyond the win/loss. Think about the discovery and what we can find out about the organization that FJB and the rest of the Dems/commies call 'an idea, not an organization.'

We know better and there is strong evidence that Soros heavily funds. It would be great to get this into the public record.
You can't fix stupid.
Ellis Wyatt
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tk111 said:

samurai_science said:

Rapier108 said:

tk111 said:

Isn't Andy Ngo gay and asian?
Yes
That will help him
That was my point...everyone seems to be lamenting that its a given he'll get a leftist jury. What do you think their programmed response is going to be when his lawyer gets up to present the "look what they did this poor gay minority" evidence?
What do leftists always do when a member of their various presumed support groups has thoughts that don't align with theirs?

See: Clarence Thomas, Ric Grenell, Candace Owens, etc.
tk111
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Ellis Wyatt said:

tk111 said:

samurai_science said:

Rapier108 said:

tk111 said:

Isn't Andy Ngo gay and asian?
Yes
That will help him
That was my point...everyone seems to be lamenting that its a given he'll get a leftist jury. What do you think their programmed response is going to be when his lawyer gets up to present the "look what they did this poor gay minority" evidence?
What do leftists always do when a member of their various presumed support groups has thoughts that don't align with theirs?

See: Clarence Thomas, Ric Grenell, Candace Owens, etc.
True. I guess Andy is the asian lgbt face of white supremacy now.
IndividualFreedom
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Try that in a small town.
DTP02
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As is typical in the clickbait age, headline doesn't match facts.

Ngo did try to sue "Rose City Antifa" as part of this trial, but they were dismissed as a defendant because they weren't a discrete entity.

That left several individuals he was suing, which is nice, but not nearly as significant as successfully suing Antifa as a group would have been.

A few defendants were served and haven't made an appearance, so he'll get a default judgment agains them which will almost assuredly not be collectable.

He has settled with one defendant.

I think there are maybe only two defendants left.
richardag
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DTP02 said:

As is typical in the clickbait age, headline doesn't match facts.

Ngo did try to sue "Rose City Antifa" as part of this trial, but they were dismissed as a defendant because they weren't a discrete entity.

That left several individuals he was suing, which is nice, but not nearly as significant as successfully suing Antifa as a group would have been.

A few defendants were served and haven't made an appearance, so he'll get a default judgment agains them which will almost assuredly not be collectable.

He has settled with one defendant.

I think there are maybe only two defendants left.
"haven't made an appearance"
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Sea Speed
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TexAgs91 said:

torrid said:

How do you sue something that is only an ideology and not an organization?
Don't derail with libspeak


That isn't derailing with libspeak, it is mocking the president who said that antifa is just an idea.
samurai_science
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ANTIFA is a well organized communist organization with leaders, but they go out of there way to NOT identify any leaders because they can be targeted.
DTP02
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richardag said:

DTP02 said:

As is typical in the clickbait age, headline doesn't match facts.

Ngo did try to sue "Rose City Antifa" as part of this trial, but they were dismissed as a defendant because they weren't a discrete entity.

That left several individuals he was suing, which is nice, but not nearly as significant as successfully suing Antifa as a group would have been.

A few defendants were served and haven't made an appearance, so he'll get a default judgment agains them which will almost assuredly not be collectable.

He has settled with one defendant.

I think there are maybe only two defendants left.
"haven't made an appearance"


Not sure what that response is supposed to mean.
will25u
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Womp womp.

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
Rapier108
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As I said, it is a Portland jury.

They probably would give the antifa thugs a medal for doing it if they could.

Hell, some of them are probably antifa themselves.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
AgBQ-00
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The only good commie...
AggieVictor10
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Antifa are the real fascists
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real
Lol,lmao
richardag
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DTP02 said:

richardag said:

DTP02 said:

As is typical in the clickbait age, headline doesn't match facts.

Ngo did try to sue "Rose City Antifa" as part of this trial, but they were dismissed as a defendant because they weren't a discrete entity.

That left several individuals he was suing, which is nice, but not nearly as significant as successfully suing Antifa as a group would have been.

A few defendants were served and haven't made an appearance, so he'll get a default judgment agains them which will almost assuredly not be collectable.

He has settled with one defendant.

I think there are maybe only two defendants left.
"haven't made an appearance"


Not sure what that response is supposed to mean.
It shows their contempt for the judicial system.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
pdc093
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Wow. I'm honestly a little shocked.
People are moving, not just out of Portland, but completely out of state! Businesses closing (downtown) on the regular, because they've been robbed/vandalized 4+ times.
pdc093
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ANTIFA atty for the defense wears ANTIFA shirt during closing statements, telling them she "IS ANTIFA".
Intimidation?

Loquacious Lunchbox
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Central Committee said:

The value in the lawsuit goes beyond the win/loss. Think about the discovery and what we can find out about the organization
That's not what's going on man
tk111
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tk111 said:

samurai_science said:

Rapier108 said:

tk111 said:

Isn't Andy Ngo gay and asian?
Yes
That will help him
That was my point...everyone seems to be lamenting that its a given he'll get a leftist jury. What do you think their programmed response is going to be when his lawyer gets up to present the "look what they did this poor gay minority" evidence?
Well I was sure out of the strike zone on this one lol. Portland's citizenry is truly other-worldly.
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