TacosaurusRex said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Amazing how people fall for the Texas Tribune's propaganda every single time.

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Instead of whining about "muh soros" maybe consider that A&M is bringing this kind of attention on itself. No reason they couldn't have told Buckingham to kick rocks. The professor was exercising free speech and her criticisms were completely valid (ie they were not pure vitriolic insults). We aren't required to bend the knee to snowflakes.

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What were the actual comments?

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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aggie93 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Amazing how people fall for the Texas Tribune's propaganda every single time.

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This. The Tribune is not someone that is interested in telling both sides of a story or getting to the truth. They want to tear down anything Republican and they hate A&M. It's very possible that this story is true and it happened the way they claim but I put about as much stock in the Tribune as I do a Rolling Stone article on evaluating Donald Trump in an intellectually honest fashion.

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Buckingham declined to comment.

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UTMB declined to comment for this story, and Alonzo declined to be interviewed.

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Eltife declined to comment.

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They tried to get both sides. All you gotta do is open the article, lol.

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"Hi - Dawn Buckingham? Im Kate from the "I hate you rag." Would you be interested in giving a statement that we can contort or mischaracterize in our next attack piece? No? Ok - we'll just paint it like you're trying to hide, then."

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Don't complain about it being one-sided if you're going to make excuses for the people preventing it from being two-sided.

But this does raise an interesting point. On numerous occasions I've done stories where one side refuses to speak, only to be shocked when I ran the story. The complaint is then that we're being "one-sided." That's not how this works, bra. You can't kill a story by refusing to tell your side of it.

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"Stories." You're pretending that this is journalism. It isn't. The Tribune and (as with most legacy media) sold itself to the leftist narrative a long time ago.

Propagandists run propaganda. You push it because it's on your side, but it's dying under its own reputational collapse.

In a post-truth society with free media - the only hope for longevity that print media HAD was in being a source of truth. But you highlight WITH YOUR ASSERTION just another of the failure points in play: "if you don't cooperate with me, I'll just run with the opposition's perspective."

That's vindictiveness - not journalism. Your inability to differentiate the two is quite telling.

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If cooperation was needed for journalists to do their jobs, journalism wouldn't exist. The whole point of investigative journalism is the work that people wont cooperate on.

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You spontaneously admitted to spurning those who don't cooperate with you through one-sided reporting! Now you want to pretend you're an ethical investigative truth-speaker?!

And you're upset that folks aren't taking you out your revered paper seriously?!? Look in a mirror! YOU are what's wrong with modern "journalism!"

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Oh, and another thing, those saying "A&M just keeps making unforced errors!"

…even with the lack of information, isn't this the proper sequence of events? Allegation of impropriety > temporary status and investigation > insufficient findings > restoration of status quo.

The entire question is whether the allegation was worthy of investigation and that's the detail that's omitted!

The "bad look for A&M" comes from the Tribune publishing an incomplete story. Which should reflect more on that "institution" than our own.

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3. Speech by professors in the classroom at public institutions is thus often protected under both the First Amendment and the professional concept of academic freedom if the speech is "germane to the subject matter."

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a. See, e.g., Hardy v. Jefferson Community College , 260 F.3d 671 (6th Cir. 2001), cert. denied , 535 U.S. 970 (2002) ("Reasonable school officials should have known that . . . speech, when it is germane to the classroom subject matter and advances an academic message, is protected by the First Amendment."); Bonnell v. Lorenzo , 241 F.3d 800 (6th Cir.), cert. denied , 534 U.S. 951 (2001) (concluding that, "[w]hile a professor's rights to academic freedom and freedom of expression are paramount in the academic setting, they are not absolute to the point of compromising a student's right to learn in a hostile-free environment," and finding professor's use of vulgar language "not germane to the subject matter").

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Yeah, I know, arguing I the internet with strangers and all. And him being 12 (class of '33) makes it all the worse. But if the board doesn't poke holes in propaganda it lingers as the narrative of record.

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BluHorseShu said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Oh, and another thing, those saying "A&M just keeps making unforced errors!"

…even with the lack of information, isn't this the proper sequence of events? Allegation of impropriety > temporary status and investigation > insufficient findings > restoration of status quo.

The entire question is whether the allegation was worthy of investigation and that's the detail that's omitted!

The "bad look for A&M" comes from the Tribune publishing an incomplete story. Which should reflect more on that "institution" than our own.

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Man, either people aren't reading the whole story (from more than just the Tribune). or they just can't bring themselves to admit this was a bad look in the wake of the other. A student made an unfounded accusation and happened to be the daughter of a big wig friend of Patricks. Patricks calls Sharp to say "she said something mean" and Sharp started a formal investigation. If that's all it takes for an investigation and scary the crap out of a non-tenure employ, then Texas universities are going to have a hard time recruiting faculty.
Restoration of status quo absolutely doesn't mean there was no damage done.

If it was criticism by a perceived conservative faculty member of a democrat in the Texas senate and they went thru this, everyone here would be up in arms...Including me. If one student can make this type accusation and it gets the Lt Gov involved something is wrong with our system. The allegation was absolutely not worthy of investigation. Unless criticizing government officials is a fireable offense.

If you think the story is incomplete...please share the remainder of the details.

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The Green Dragon said:

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Liberty and free speech are under serious threat. Both sides have fully embraced the state. The only difference is WHY they want the state. Very similar to the left right authoritarianism of the 30s

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Jabin said:

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I've had quite a bit of experience with media. Some media are fair and honest. But others, like the Tribune, have the opposite reputation. They'll misquote you, partially quote you, and not quote you at all. They start with the story they're going to write and then do their investigation.

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nortex97 said:

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Yep. Nothing about this, other than lazy, inaccurate, gotcha-style reporting (aka propaganda) by a publication clearly animated to target TAMU and conservatives in Texas in general, imputes any guilt toward the school/system/politicians involved.

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BassCowboy33 said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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Oh, and another thing, those saying "A&M just keeps making unforced errors!"

…even with the lack of information, isn't this the proper sequence of events? Allegation of impropriety > temporary status and investigation > insufficient findings > restoration of status quo.

The entire question is whether the allegation was worthy of investigation and that's the detail that's omitted!

The "bad look for A&M" comes from the Tribune publishing an incomplete story. Which should reflect more on that "institution" than our own.

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Man, either people aren't reading the whole story (from more than just the Tribune). or they just can't bring themselves to admit this was a bad look in the wake of the other. A student made an unfounded accusation and happened to be the daughter of a big wig friend of Patricks. Patricks calls Sharp to say "she said something mean" and Sharp started a formal investigation. If that's all it takes for an investigation and scary the crap out of a non-tenure employ, then Texas universities are going to have a hard time recruiting faculty.
Restoration of status quo absolutely doesn't mean there was no damage done.

If it was criticism by a perceived conservative faculty member of a democrat in the Texas senate and they went thru this, everyone here would be up in arms...Including me. If one student can make this type accusation and it gets the Lt Gov involved something is wrong with our system. The allegation was absolutely not worthy of investigation. Unless criticizing government officials is a fireable offense.

If you think the story is incomplete...please share the remainder of the details.

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At some point, I'd love to do a messageboard test where the thread title says one thing and the article says the opposite, just to see how many people read the article, lol. Again, I'm not always immune to that problem.

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nortex97 said:

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Yep. Nothing about this, other than lazy, inaccurate, gotcha-style reporting (aka propaganda) by a publication clearly animated to target TAMU and conservatives in Texas in general, imputes any guilt toward the school/system/politicians involved.

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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Conservative cancel culture is out of control

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LOL this is absurd. It's like Nazis in the 1940's saying antisemitism is out of control in the United States.

Try harder.

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barbacoa taco said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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Conservative cancel culture is out of control

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LOL this is absurd. It's like Nazis in the 1940's saying antisemitism is out of control in the United States.

Try harder.

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It's a problem whether you continue to deny it or not.

Dan Patrick is an especially awful offender. He tries to silence anyone who dares criticize him.

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Conservative cancel culture is out of control

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barbacoa taco said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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Conservative cancel culture is out of control

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LOL this is absurd. It's like Nazis in the 1940's saying antisemitism is out of control in the United States.

Try harder.

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It's a problem whether you continue to deny it or not.

Dan Patrick is an especially awful offender. He tries to silence anyone who dares criticize him.

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barbacoa taco said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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barbacoa taco said:

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Conservative cancel culture is out of control

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LOL this is absurd. It's like Nazis in the 1940's saying antisemitism is out of control in the United States.

Try harder.

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It's a problem whether you continue to deny it or not.

Dan Patrick is an especially awful offender. He tries to silence anyone who dares criticize him.

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TChaney said:

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You guys are arguing with a miniature reporter... expecting him to be objective about modern day editorials pretending to be news is just not possible.

He's an award winning propagandist

Hell, he even quotes his own Twitter account here on TexAgs like he "found" this Tweet from some random reporter. Just like the Aggieland Board and KBTX - he probably uses this site for his articles.

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"The statements made by the guest lecturer do not represent the opinion or position of the University of Texas Medical Branch, nor are they considered as core curriculum content for this course," the email said.

"UTMB does not support or condone these comments. We take these matters very seriously and wish to express our disapproval of the comment and apologize for harm it may have caused for members of our community," the email continued. "We hereby issue a formal censure of these statements and will take steps to ensure that such behavior does not happen in the future."

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barbacoa taco said:

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Conservative cancel culture is out of control

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