So, you agree the Russians should leave the country they invaded and go home so we can have at least a bad peace?nortex97 said:
That would not break my heart at all, even though it is as likely as the sun rising in the west tomorrow morning. I've repeated so many times that there are no good sides in this conflict, it seems some just refuse to accept it, which is fine.Ag with kids said:So, you agree the Russians should leave the country they invaded and go home so we can have at least a bad peace?nortex97 said:
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there are no good sides in this conflict
Some people did something...Teslag said:Quote:
there are no good sides in this conflict
There it is...
More accurate than Manhattan...Manhattan said:DrEvazanPhD said:Manhattan said:
Wtf are we spending $800billion a year on if we don't have enough weapons to fight a war we aren't actively involved in for just over a year?
Good question. Why don't you ask the guy you voted for with best economy ever?
He inherited a weakened economy and military.
Manhattan said:
Wtf are we spending $800billion a year on if we don't have enough weapons to fight a war we aren't actively involved in for just over a year?
Ag with kids said:Well, the Russians could leave Ukraine and end this forever war today.nortex97 said:
Yes, it's a desperate mess, as Biden indicated we are providing the cluster munitions precisely because our other stuff is so low. "Perilously low, may take decades" to recover, which is why we are doing things like going to the South Koreans to 'borrow' 500,000+ shells.
Oh, and the great Ukrainians are killing kids.The far more militarily-significant rail bridge was not damaged and traffic on it has already resumed.
— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) July 17, 2023
This was likely an attempt by the Ukrainians to grab headlines and distract from ongoing difficulties at the front.
See: https://t.co/sqDzX2uI7w
The Russians have now terminated the grain deal. More hunger on the way.
Yay, forever war!
There it is...Teslag said:
I can think of several million Jews in 1945 that thought war was pretty good for them.
Why didn't Biden fire him?Manhattan said:Teslag said:Manhattan said:DrEvazanPhD said:Manhattan said:
Wtf are we spending $800billion a year on if we don't have enough weapons to fight a war we aren't actively involved in for just over a year?
Good question. Why don't you ask the guy you voted for with best economy ever?
He inherited a weakened economy and military.
How was the military weakened from January 2017 to January 2021? Be specfic.
Let's start with Milley.
agdoc2001 said:There it is...Teslag said:
I can think of several million Jews in 1945 that thought war was pretty good for them.
How much did Trump give Ukraine? I know he approved the sale of some defensive weapons to them ($40mm dollars) but have not seen where he gave them anything.Teslag said:
Is that why Trump started arming Ukraine?
Trump, in Florence, South Carolina, takes credit for sending military aid to Ukraine -- ignoring that, you know, he was impeached after he got caught trying to withhold it pic.twitter.com/OevrrJP5WI
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2022
I think a lot of people, and honestly, maybe it's just me, are wondering - why was Ukraine, a non-NATO country, chosen to uphold peace and liberty?Teslag said:agdoc2001 said:There it is...Teslag said:
I can think of several million Jews in 1945 that thought war was pretty good for them.
Yep, there it is. War is sometimes necessary for peace and liberty. And that will remain true for as long as man exists on this earth.
Teslag said:agdoc2001 said:There it is...Teslag said:
I can think of several million Jews in 1945 that thought war was pretty good for them.
Yep, there it is. War is sometimes necessary for peace and liberty. And that will remain true for as long as man exists on this earth.
Like the ski resort filled with girls looking for husbands and husbands looking for girls, the two situations are not as symmetric as they may first appear...Ags4DaWin said:Ag with kids said:Well, the Russians could leave Ukraine and end this forever war today.nortex97 said:
Yes, it's a desperate mess, as Biden indicated we are providing the cluster munitions precisely because our other stuff is so low. "Perilously low, may take decades" to recover, which is why we are doing things like going to the South Koreans to 'borrow' 500,000+ shells.
Oh, and the great Ukrainians are killing kids.The far more militarily-significant rail bridge was not damaged and traffic on it has already resumed.
— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) July 17, 2023
This was likely an attempt by the Ukrainians to grab headlines and distract from ongoing difficulties at the front.
See: https://t.co/sqDzX2uI7w
The Russians have now terminated the grain deal. More hunger on the way.
Yay, forever war!
The US could have left Iraq and Afghanistan and ended our invasion of the Middle East in a day.
In fact Biden did precisely that.
nortex97 said:That would not break my heart at all, even though it is as likely as the sun rising in the west tomorrow morning. I've repeated so many times that there are no good sides in this conflict, it seems some just refuse to accept it, which is fine.Ag with kids said:So, you agree the Russians should leave the country they invaded and go home so we can have at least a bad peace?nortex97 said:
This isn't Kermit Gosnell vs. a baby.
TAMUallen said:
We've given off enough "old" and new stuff that we won't be replenished to defend ourselves against an actual threat at our doorstep. Seems very Bidenesque
Sure, and the crowd goes wild when a vapid beauty queen delivers a monologue about how she values 'peace on earth' as her biggest priority.J. Walter Weatherman said:nortex97 said:That would not break my heart at all, even though it is as likely as the sun rising in the west tomorrow morning. I've repeated so many times that there are no good sides in this conflict, it seems some just refuse to accept it, which is fine.Ag with kids said:So, you agree the Russians should leave the country they invaded and go home so we can have at least a bad peace?nortex97 said:
This isn't Kermit Gosnell vs. a baby.
Instead of "not breaking your heart," this seems like something someone who is apparently so concerned with the loss of life in Ukraine would celebrate, no?
nortex97 said:Sure, and the crowd goes wild when a vapid beauty queen delivers a monologue about how she values 'peace on earth' as her biggest priority.J. Walter Weatherman said:nortex97 said:That would not break my heart at all, even though it is as likely as the sun rising in the west tomorrow morning. I've repeated so many times that there are no good sides in this conflict, it seems some just refuse to accept it, which is fine.Ag with kids said:So, you agree the Russians should leave the country they invaded and go home so we can have at least a bad peace?nortex97 said:
This isn't Kermit Gosnell vs. a baby.
Instead of "not breaking your heart," this seems like something someone who is apparently so concerned with the loss of life in Ukraine would celebrate, no?
You'll pardon me for not bowing down before your moral high ground as you celebrate grinding a people, including forced conscripts, to death in a proxy war for nothing in a disingenuous cry about 'freedom' as run by a totalitarian cabal of vile criminals and traitors.
J. Walter Weatherman said:nortex97 said:Sure, and the crowd goes wild when a vapid beauty queen delivers a monologue about how she values 'peace on earth' as her biggest priority.J. Walter Weatherman said:nortex97 said:That would not break my heart at all, even though it is as likely as the sun rising in the west tomorrow morning. I've repeated so many times that there are no good sides in this conflict, it seems some just refuse to accept it, which is fine.Ag with kids said:So, you agree the Russians should leave the country they invaded and go home so we can have at least a bad peace?nortex97 said:
This isn't Kermit Gosnell vs. a baby.
Instead of "not breaking your heart," this seems like something someone who is apparently so concerned with the loss of life in Ukraine would celebrate, no?
You'll pardon me for not bowing down before your moral high ground as you celebrate grinding a people, including forced conscripts, to death in a proxy war for nothing in a disingenuous cry about 'freedom' as run by a totalitarian cabal of vile criminals and traitors.
Link to me celebrating the war? I would definitely celebrate if Putin decided to end it and go home, but weirdly enough I guess that's only one of us.
Maybe.MouthBQ98 said:
I agree, we have not properly prepared for the volume modern warfare might demand, but we are a very resourceful nation with a lot of capacity and capability and if we had to produce a lot of ammunition in the short term, we absolutely could make it happen.
Ag with kids said:Like the ski resort filled with girls looking for husbands and husbands looking for girls, the two situations are not as symmetric as they may first appear...Ags4DaWin said:Ag with kids said:Well, the Russians could leave Ukraine and end this forever war today.nortex97 said:
Yes, it's a desperate mess, as Biden indicated we are providing the cluster munitions precisely because our other stuff is so low. "Perilously low, may take decades" to recover, which is why we are doing things like going to the South Koreans to 'borrow' 500,000+ shells.
Oh, and the great Ukrainians are killing kids.The far more militarily-significant rail bridge was not damaged and traffic on it has already resumed.
— Armchair Warlord (@ArmchairW) July 17, 2023
This was likely an attempt by the Ukrainians to grab headlines and distract from ongoing difficulties at the front.
See: https://t.co/sqDzX2uI7w
The Russians have now terminated the grain deal. More hunger on the way.
Yay, forever war!
The US could have left Iraq and Afghanistan and ended our invasion of the Middle East in a day.
In fact Biden did precisely that.
🚨“(The Russians are using) 60,000 (shells) a day. The world production in the west can accommodate about 5,000 (shells) a day. I guess the Russians have been building artillery for about 50 years and they have an infinite supply
— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) July 17, 2023
I was shocked at how good the Russians were at… pic.twitter.com/rmA48YSu6a
Soon, they're going to be building so many T-90s a month they're going to be able to start yeeting those at the Ukrainians with their artillery...BudFox7 said:
Lol the Russians have an infinite supply. K
fka ftc said:J. Walter Weatherman said:nortex97 said:Sure, and the crowd goes wild when a vapid beauty queen delivers a monologue about how she values 'peace on earth' as her biggest priority.J. Walter Weatherman said:nortex97 said:That would not break my heart at all, even though it is as likely as the sun rising in the west tomorrow morning. I've repeated so many times that there are no good sides in this conflict, it seems some just refuse to accept it, which is fine.Ag with kids said:So, you agree the Russians should leave the country they invaded and go home so we can have at least a bad peace?nortex97 said:
This isn't Kermit Gosnell vs. a baby.
Instead of "not breaking your heart," this seems like something someone who is apparently so concerned with the loss of life in Ukraine would celebrate, no?
You'll pardon me for not bowing down before your moral high ground as you celebrate grinding a people, including forced conscripts, to death in a proxy war for nothing in a disingenuous cry about 'freedom' as run by a totalitarian cabal of vile criminals and traitors.
Link to me celebrating the war? I would definitely celebrate if Putin decided to end it and go home, but weirdly enough I guess that's only one of us.
Just in case people are still confused about what a strawman argument is. Poster makes comment about killing of conscripted Russian soldiers and supporting corrupt regimes in Ukraine, responding poster comments indicating poster would not welcome an end of war.
The pro-Ukes are nauseating with their continued straw man's taking anything remotely critical of Ukraine or anything remotely positive (or just appearing positive) for Russia as indication the poster is some sort of KGB operative, pro Russian / Soviet, pro Putin, democracy hating, propaganda eating idiot.
That is what gets old and it should stop. There is a Go Ukes thread if they need a safe place to play in.