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Kvetch said:

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Andrew Tate is a loser who deserves everything he gets. Being a ****** pseudo conservative shock jock doesn't make you automatically better than the libs.

He should fade away into oblivion. Anybody who gives that moron 10 minutes of their time should reevaluate their lives.

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WTF? You don't like him, fine. Disagree and state why. But this post makes me think he took your girlfriend/boyfriend away from you.

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That is actually the exact reason why he was arrested.

BillYeoman said:

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We have problems with our Justice System in the United States but one lesson here is the Tates opened themselves up to the Romanian Justice System which is almost impossible to trust

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Part of his schtick for years was to talk about how ****ty the United States is in comparison to Romania, and that their corruption was actually a good thing because it was obvious.

I'm so confused.

While I don't have enough quality information to make up my mind on the guy, about 80% of what I've heard from him in the five times I've listened to him seems to be a much better message than 98% of what we get every day. But that's not why I chose to reply to you, and it's certainly not to contest you on Tate, as I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough to deliver a quality comment about the man.

Here's my question/comment, I've known for a long time our massive involvement in Ukraine (long before the war), and to a much lesser degree in Romania. But since the report yesterday the FBI was directly involved with the FSB in Russia to censor any American information they didn't like, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the DOJ was involved with indicting Tate. Like I said, don't know enough to respect the man, but I do know enough about our government, and I could easily see them putting pressure on the corresponding Romanian (DOJ), whatever they may be called.

The other 20% is bragging about running an online sex shop where he puts girls on camera, guys on keyboards and takes half their earnings because women are too stupid to talk the way men want them to talk.

He's a ****ty person, and a lot of the mainstream responsibility advocates that target younger men are ****ty people. They're some combination of responsibility advocate and MGTOW advocate non-sense, like that dumb broad Pearl. Most of them aren't Jocko Willink.

Thanks, I'll do my homework, as I'm sure this won't be the last time we hear from the guy.

There's a lot of topics I'm familiar with on the periphery, and this is one of them. I tend to take a very long time to make up my mind on anyone I choose to listen to and read.

I guess it's kind of like the 48 hour rule (or longer) on any news item.

I'm not super well versed in his world, because I only catch clips from his stuff, but I've seen him make those exact statements and quickly came to the conclusion that if I'm looking for motivation to be responsible I can find it elsewhere. These aren't "gotcha" clips from some other outlet, they're things that he wanted people to see so they'd perceive him as an impressive womanizer.

Guilty of actual sex trafficking or not, from a character standpoint I'm not willing to make a defense of him as a person. He sucks.

Governments doing corrupt things doesn't provide evidence for the idea that he is being corruptly targeted in this specific instance. I'm going to need a modicum of evidence before I entertain the idea that there's some kind of op to go after the Tates.

I've seen no evidence that he's being targeted for any reason other than he's a criminal. Blindly claiming that they're going after him because he says brash things that go against the mainstream is honestly about the least likely scenario, but he's going to play that angle to drum up support just like you're seeing on this thread.

Kvetch said:

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Governments doing corrupt things doesn't provide evidence for the idea that he is being corruptly targeted in this specific instance. I'm going to need a modicum of evidence before I entertain the idea that there's some kind of op to go after the Tate.

I've seen no evidence that he's being targeted for any reason other than he's a criminal. Blindly claiming that they're going after him because he says brash things that go against the mainstream is honestly about the least likely scenario, but he's going to play that angle to drum up support just like you're seeing on this thread.

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Can you post this evidence you have seen that proves he is guilty of being a criminal? Any at all?

What did he say in the Tucker interview that you disagree with?

He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

Oh, I don't have any.

I do know our government goes after strong, provocative speakers in some form or another----all of them Republican/conservative.

I'm just not ruling it out based on a crap-ton of circumstantial evidence since 2008 from our government. Hell, you may be dead on, I have no idea. Just throwing out provocative statements as you seem to be educated about the man.

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I'm so confused.

While I don't have enough quality information to make up my mind on the guy, about 80% of what I've heard from him in the five times I've listened to him seems to be a much better message than 98% of what we get every day. But that's not why I chose to reply to you, and it's certainly not to contest you on Tate, as I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough to deliver a quality comment about the man.

Here's my question/comment, I've known for a long time our massive involvement in Ukraine (long before the war), and to a much lesser degree in Romania. But since the report yesterday the FBI was directly involved with the FSB in Russia to censor any American information they didn't like, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the DOJ was involved with indicting Tate. Like I said, don't know enough to respect the man, but I do know enough about our government, and I could easily see them putting pressure on the corresponding Romanian (DOJ), whatever they may be called.

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Tate is being indicted in Romania because several of his girlfriends webcam models have made criminal complaints against him for crimes in Romania. To be entirely honest, I don't think anyone in our government gives a **** about him. He's just another grifting "influencer" who makes a living based on telling people what they want to hear.


No, the FBI wasn't working at the behest of the FSB to remove American Twitter accounts they didn't like. They were working with Ukraine's SBU, which had been infiltrated by the FSB, to flag suspected Russian propaganda accounts. Unfortunately the FBI is staffed by incompetent idiots who unwittingly flagged many American and Ukrainian accounts need on info from the FSB that they thought was coming from the SBU.

Agree with you on this. He's takes the original concept of Red-pilling (ie, when it was originally used to refer to building confidence in lonely, online men and to teach how to build respect between themselves and girls they are interested in) and twisted it to the douchiest understanding of the concept. Where the original red pill concept of encouraging masculinity online was to do things that will make you feel more confident in yourself, Tate's understanding of the concept is to do things that help you sleep with as many girls as you can because girls were mean to you in HS, so screw them.

Kvetch said:

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oh no said:

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Problem is only people who like Tucker Carlson watched the interview and people who already believe what they've been told to think about the Tate brothers and / or Carlson will not watch the interview.

Tate spends a lot of time in this interview speaking about the brainwashed non-thinkers like kvetch, but sadly these people have already been programmed to hate and will never actually think.

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Yeah, I'm the non-thinker because I don't believe the snake oil salesman is innocent as a dove. Give me a break. The reason I don't have any respect for Andrew Tate is because I'm not a mouth breather that claps like a seal every time some says "mAsCuLinIty GoOd, fEmiNisM BaD."

Maybe you should think a little more critically before throwing stones.

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I mean, it is.

beerad12man said:

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Kvetch said:

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oh no said:

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Problem is only people who like Tucker Carlson watched the interview and people who already believe what they've been told to think about the Tate brothers and / or Carlson will not watch the interview.

Tate spends a lot of time in this interview speaking about the brainwashed non-thinkers like kvetch, but sadly these people have already been programmed to hate and will never actually think.

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Yeah, I'm the non-thinker because I don't believe the snake oil salesman is innocent as a dove. Give me a break. The reason I don't have any respect for Andrew Tate is because I'm not a mouth breather that claps like a seal every time some says "mAsCuLinIty GoOd, fEmiNisM BaD."

Maybe you should think a little more critically before throwing stones.

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I mean, it is.

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True. But merely stating that doesn't mean that your broader ideas and actions are moral, justified, and worthy of support.

agcrock2005 said:

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Unbelievable that this is a thing, MSM hating on actual child trafficking while persecuting the Tate brothers who have done nothing.

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Hot take, I know, but the flip is the right is now blasting about stopping sex crimes sex traffickers while supporting someone literally indicted for rape and sex trafficking.

Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

TA-OP said:

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agcrock2005 said:

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Unbelievable that this is a thing, MSM hating on actual child trafficking while persecuting the Tate brothers who have done nothing.

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Hot take, I know, but the flip is the right is now blasting about stopping sex crimes sex traffickers while supporting someone literally indicted for rape and sex trafficking.

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The Duke Men's lacrosse players were indicted, too.

How'd that play out?

Is him bragging about living in Romania because Romania is unapologetic about their corruption true?

If so, seems like a FAFO situation to me. Especially with how he was found and arrested originally.

HarryJ33tamu said:

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Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

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not true, at least according to the link you posted:

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Two female associates of Andrew Tate came forward to defend him, saying he never abused them, the BBC reported.

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They also said prosecutors in Romania had mistakenly considered them to be among the six victims on which they have built their case against the Tates.

Prosecutors have not named any of the women themselves, making this detail difficult to verify.

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

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Guess we will see what happens in court. I haven't once said he's guilty of anything, yet you seem giddy to act as if you have direct evidence that he's innocent of any wrongdoing.

Comparing this loser to someone with the political power of Donald Trump is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There's obvious motivation for a political prosecution against Trump. You're going to have to provide evidence that anyone, especially the Romanians, give a **** about Andrew Tate before you use the "powers that be" argument without a modicum of proof. Please provide evidence and rationale for a political prosecution of a social media shock jock.

Because the most likely explanation is that they suspect him of actual crimes and have thus charged him. We will have to wait to see whether the proof exists.

HarryJ33tamu said:

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Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

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nope. he said things the msm told people to hate him for. therefore, he should be imprisoned for life, obviously he's a criminal.

oh no said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

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nope. he said things the msm told people to hate him for. therefore, he should be imprisoned for life, obviously he's a criminal.

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Nope. He says things that the "powers that be" hate so he must be innocent.

See how dumb that sounds as proof?

snowdog90 said:

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"Most of the men who truly dislike me are miserable and weak".

Sounds like pretty much all liberal men.

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Thread.

Old McDonald said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

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not true, at least according to the link you posted:

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Two female associates of Andrew Tate came forward to defend him, saying he never abused them, the BBC reported.

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They also said prosecutors in Romania had mistakenly considered them to be among the six victims on which they have built their case against the Tates.

Prosecutors have not named any of the women themselves, making this detail difficult to verify.

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So two of the six girls the state says Tate "trafficked" came out and said it wasn't true. Seems like a really solid indictment!

TA-OP said:

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agcrock2005 said:

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Unbelievable that this is a thing, MSM hating on actual child trafficking while persecuting the Tate brothers who have done nothing.

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Hot take, I know, but the flip is the right is now blasting about stopping sex crimes sex traffickers while supporting someone literally indicted for rape and sex trafficking.

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This is ignorant. He hasnt been prosecuted or accused of rape. The trafficking part is for making tic tok videos with girls, not literal trafficking.

I think one of the problems here is some people who didn't know much about him watched the interview with Tucker Carlson where he explains what exactly he was finally eventually charged with (which doesn't sound anything like trafficking), and he further explains what little case or evidence they have of those charges. Maybe he just fed lies to Tucker about his charges and his case, but the other side of the discussion is people who haven't and won't watch the interview and were already 100% certain his guy rapes and traffics sex slaves and is already a criminal in their minds. I thought the interview was good and worth watching whether you love him, hate him, or don't know much about him, but when people who refuse to watch the interview insist on derailing the thread, it's going no where.

HarryJ33tamu said:

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Old McDonald said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

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not true, at least according to the link you posted:

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Two female associates of Andrew Tate came forward to defend him, saying he never abused them, the BBC reported.

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They also said prosecutors in Romania had mistakenly considered them to be among the six victims on which they have built their case against the Tates.

Prosecutors have not named any of the women themselves, making this detail difficult to verify.

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So two of the six girls the state says Tate "trafficked" came out and said it wasn't true. Seems like a really solid indictment!

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you said "every single girl listed in the indictment has told the romanian gov't that it isn't true", and as proof posted an article saying two associates of tate's who weren't even verified as being named in the indictment did that

you're either lying or not reading too good

BREAKING

Andrew and Tristan Tate have been arrested in Miami by the U.S. Marshals Service.

Statement below from the U.K.’s Crown Prosecution Service about additional charges being filed against the brothers.

The Tate brothers are now facing a total of 59 charges:

42 against… pic.twitter.com/Kmm59lBehU

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) July 18, 2026

Framed again!

Can’t believe the Taint brothers got arrested

Always the ones you least expect

— Three Year Letterman (@3YearLetterman) July 19, 2026

So they are charged in UK and this is for extradition?

Hadn't heard of them in forever.

Old McDonald said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Old McDonald said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

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not true, at least according to the link you posted:

Quote:

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Two female associates of Andrew Tate came forward to defend him, saying he never abused them, the BBC reported.

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Quote:

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They also said prosecutors in Romania had mistakenly considered them to be among the six victims on which they have built their case against the Tates.

Prosecutors have not named any of the women themselves, making this detail difficult to verify.

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So two of the six girls the state says Tate "trafficked" came out and said it wasn't true. Seems like a really solid indictment!

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you said "every single girl listed in the indictment has told the romanian gov't that it isn't true", and as proof posted an article saying two associates of tate's who weren't even verified as being named in the indictment did that

you're either lying or not reading too good

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Old McDonald said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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Kvetch said:

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He's been arrested and charged, so that's a good start. If he's innocent, he should go free. Can you please show me the evidence that this is a nefarious prosecution? Hard evidence of corruption in this specific case that doesn't come out of Andrew Tate's mouth?

I haven't said he's guilty of anything. I'll give him his due process. I'm refuting the idea being peddled on this thread that there's evidence of corruption and bias driving this whole deal.

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Lol glad to know you have zero idea what is going on. You sure are trying to sound smart, though.

He was held for 92 days in prison without being charged. He was charged 1 day before they were required to let him go without charging him with something. Every single girl listed in the indictment has told the Romanian govt. that it isn't true. Here's an article from Yahoo:

https://news.yahoo.com/2-women-close-andrew-tate-135508389.html

The Romanian govt. has charged him with convincing girls to post on TikTok and then taking their money. He hasn't received a single dollar from these girls or TikTok and there are zero financial documents submitted as evidence for the state's claim. Seems like that would be a pretty significant piece of evidence, don't you think?

I'm sure you believed Trump was a Russian agent because the news told you to believe that, huh?

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not true, at least according to the link you posted:

Quote:

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Two female associates of Andrew Tate came forward to defend him, saying he never abused them, the BBC reported.

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They also said prosecutors in Romania had mistakenly considered them to be among the six victims on which they have built their case against the Tates.

Prosecutors have not named any of the women themselves, making this detail difficult to verify.

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So two of the six girls the state says Tate "trafficked" came out and said it wasn't true. Seems like a really solid indictment!

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He has a history of brainwashing girls to endure abuse so I hardly find this surprising.