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San Antonio ISD is giving its teachers raises between 3% and 9%, and it's paying for them by slashing administrative jobs.

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Of all places to do it the right way...

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If true this is amazing and the right course for most entities.

SA has had a few positives in the news lately so maybe there's a little hope. Pedophile strung up by the Soros DA who claims children must be protected, SAPD at least initially defending the guy who killed 2 perps at the ATM, and now this. Hope it's all true.

Jack Squat 83 said:

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CDUB98 said:

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San Antonio ISD is giving its teachers raises between 3% and 9%, and it's paying for them by slashing administrative jobs.

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Of all places to do it the right way...

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If true this is amazing and the right course for most entities.

SA has had a few positives in the news lately so maybe there's a little hope. Pedophile strung up by the Soros DA who claims children must be protected, SAPD at least initially defending the guy who killed 2 perps at the ATM, and now this. Hope it's all true.

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SAISD has a superintendent who has called out the elephant in the room and proposed to close numerous underutilized campuses. Even Texas Tribune published the stats that some campuses are running as low as 25%. Of course, you can believe it has brought out the usual suspects complaining about how they shouldn't be closing schools. I will give the guy credit for trying to get ahead of the PR issue and putting these statistics out so that taxpayers understand they need to do this. I believe he is sincere, but I fear the local socialists will make this extremely difficult.

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AggieKatie2 said:

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I will say this. I know one of the teachers in FWISD that won teacher of the year for the entire district. The financial prize for the award was less than $1,000 and paid by a 3rd party.

Teaching is a choice, but what other business could you be the best employee out of thousands and only be given a bonus of less than $1000 without moving on.

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I'm all for merit pay for teachers and especially for trimming the fat. Unfortunately teachers don't want that. They want security and security comes at a cost in terms of incentives.

BTW, why is it that the schools who spend the least per student often have some of the best results and those who spend the most almost always have the worst? My son's school is easily a Top 20 Large Public HS in Texas and cranks out kids that crush it in college, has a robust trade program including Welding and Cosmotology, and has an exceptional sports and Robotics program yet we spend less than $7k per student, well below the State average.

The answer of course is parental involvement which no amount of money will fix.

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How many of those schools that spend the least have a solid middle to upper middle class demographics and aren't getting as much government money?

But you likely get it directly from your employer.

AggieKatie2 said:

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But you likely get it directly from your employer.

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Correct, as part of a negotiated employment package that both parties knew from the get-go.

aggie93 said:

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AggieKatie2 said:

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I will say this. I know one of the teachers in FWISD that won teacher of the year for the entire district. The financial prize for the award was less than $1,000 and paid by a 3rd party.

Teaching is a choice, but what other business could you be the best employee out of thousands and only be given a bonus of less than $1000 without moving on.

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I'm all for merit pay for teachers and especially for trimming the fat. Unfortunately teachers don't want that. They want security and security comes at a cost in terms of incentives.

BTW, why is it that the schools who spend the least per student often have some of the best results and those who spend the most almost always have the worst? My son's school is easily a Top 20 Large Public HS in Texas and cranks out kids that crush it in college, has a robust trade program including Welding and Cosmotology, and has an exceptional sports and Robotics program yet we spend less than $7k per student, well below the State average.

The answer of course is parental involvement which no amount of money will fix.

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Well since you didn't name the school you're not that proud of it......

I vote "no" on every Frisco school bond issue.

School districts... always want more, more, more.

Enough! I am / we are tapped out.

damiond said:

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In North Texas, Fort Worth ISD approved a budget last month with a $45 million deficit, with raises accounting for more than half of that amount. Frisco ISD also approved a $24 million deficit to pay for modest staff raises.
In Central Texas, Austin ISD approved a budget with a $52 million deficit to give employees a 7% raise. San Antonio ISD is giving its teachers raises between 3% and 9%, and it's paying for them by slashing administrative jobs. In the much smaller Smithville ISD, about 45 miles east of Austin, board members approved a 4% raise that will leave the district with a deficit of more than half a million.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/10/texas-schools-teacher-raises/
they already make good money for only working nine months

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1. BAN PUBLIC FINANCING OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS. EVEN A&M. REDIRECT PUF TO CITIZENS DIRECTLY.
2. AUCTION PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES OFF TO PRIVATE NON-PROFIT AND FOR- PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, CHURCHES, ETC... OR ALLOW A COMMUNITY TO FORM A VOLUNTARY EDUCATION TRUST THAT MEMBERSHIP IS NOT COMPULSORY IN.
3. LIMIT THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF NON-PROFIT SCHOOLS TO NO MORE THAN 10,000 STUDENTS. LIMIT THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF FOR-PROFIT SCHOOLS TO NO MORE THAN 5,000 STUDENTS.
4. STATE FUNDED EDUCATIONAL GRANTS AVAILABLE BASED ON STUDENT DEMONSTRATED FINANCIAL NEED AND ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE AS MEASURED ON STANDARDIZED AGE APPROPRIATE TESTING.
5. TAX INCENTIVES OR REBATES FOR SCHOOLS THAT PROVIDE FREE OR LOW COST EDUCATION.

WATCH EDUCATION THRIVE WITHOUT ONE SIZE FITS ALL PUBLIC EDUCATION!

Teacher pay complaints go up as behavior gets worse and freedom/ability to educate goes down.

Districts can try to pay their way out of this mess, but retaining teachers focused on pay rather than the profession will only pour gas in the fire.

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AggieKatie2 said:

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I will say this. I know one of the teachers in FWISD that won teacher of the year for the entire district. The financial prize for the award was less than $1,000 and paid by a 3rd party.

Teaching is a choice, but what other business could you be the best employee out of thousands and only be given a bonus of less than $1000 without moving on.

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Any business that is run by a Union.

That's how Socialism Unions work.

HTH.

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That is true, but there are no unions in Texas.

What's a bonus?

/every engineer

AggieKatie2 said:

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But you likely get it directly from your employer.

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Good grief! Go to work, do your job, get your paycheck. Do a great job and get invited back tomorrow. Don't budget based on bonuses and be greatful for any amount!

Beyond that, here is a list of things one is entitled to:

aggie93 said:

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AggieKatie2 said:

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I will say this. I know one of the teachers in FWISD that won teacher of the year for the entire district. The financial prize for the award was less than $1,000 and paid by a 3rd party.

Teaching is a choice, but what other business could you be the best employee out of thousands and only be given a bonus of less than $1000 without moving on.

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I'm all for merit pay for teachers and especially for trimming the fat. Unfortunately teachers don't want that. They want security and security comes at a cost in terms of incentives.

BTW, why is it that the schools who spend the least per student often have some of the best results and those who spend the most almost always have the worst? My son's school is easily a Top 20 Large Public HS in Texas and cranks out kids that crush it in college, has a robust trade program including Welding and Cosmotology, and has an exceptional sports and Robotics program yet we spend less than $7k per student, well below the State average.

The answer of course is parental involvement which no amount of money will fix.

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This teacher wants merit pay. Just explain how one does it well.

We're about to see a serious teacher shortage. Very few young people are flocking to the profession and lots of young ones are getting out.

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What's a bonus?

/every engineer

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And why is sales getting it?

I thought Texas would be seeing a property tax windfall?

Has the tax revenue tied to higher property values not hit the books yet? ...or are the deficits the result of spending beyond the windfall of revenue.

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AggieKatie2 said:

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I will say this. I know one of the teachers in FWISD that won teacher of the year for the entire district. The financial prize for the award was less than $1,000 and paid by a 3rd party.

Teaching is a choice, but what other business could you be the best employee out of thousands and only be given a bonus of less than $1000 without moving on.

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I rarely get bonuses from 3rd parties at my current job.

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In our district the bonuses come from the non-profit foundation that supports the district. Our district has a strong non-profit foundation, in part, because of all the tax money we collect and then send to the state through recapture.

Just because a third party is funding the bonuses doesn't mean the district is poorly run.

damiond said:

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In North Texas, Fort Worth ISD approved a budget last month with a $45 million deficit, with raises accounting for more than half of that amount. Frisco ISD also approved a $24 million deficit to pay for modest staff raises.
In Central Texas, Austin ISD approved a budget with a $52 million deficit to give employees a 7% raise. San Antonio ISD is giving its teachers raises between 3% and 9%, and it's paying for them by slashing administrative jobs. In the much smaller Smithville ISD, about 45 miles east of Austin, board members approved a 4% raise that will leave the district with a deficit of more than half a million.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/10/texas-schools-teacher-raises/
they already make good money for only working nine months

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You should have stopped before the ignorant troll line.

Burdizzo said:

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AggieKatie2 said:

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I will say this. I know one of the teachers in FWISD that won teacher of the year for the entire district. The financial prize for the award was less than $1,000 and paid by a 3rd party.

Teaching is a choice, but what other business could you be the best employee out of thousands and only be given a bonus of less than $1000 without moving on.

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I rarely get bonuses from 3rd parties at my current job.

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In our district the bonuses come from the non-profit foundation that supports the district. Our district has a strong non-profit foundation, in part, because of all the tax money we collect and then send to the state through recapture.

Just because a third party is funding the bonuses doesn't mean the district is poorly run.

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Not sure I said it was? I personally and through an LLC contribute to Christmas and annual bonuses for the teachers at my kids' school. I didn't say it was wrong. The implication was it should be welcome that a 3rd party would care enough to contribute. Aim the ire all you want at the school district for not giving teachers bonuses - but don't sit there and demean the significance of prize money from a 3rd party, that's a ridiculous stance.

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I will say this. I know one of the teachers in FWISD that won teacher of the year for the entire district. The financial prize for the award was less than $1,000 and paid by a 3rd party.

Teaching is a choice, but what other business could you be the best employee out of thousands and only be given a bonus of less than $1000 without moving on.

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Good lord. I have been given leadership awards in my career - and they have been plaques.

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My thoughts exactly... mine wasn't even a plaque though, due to pandemic and work from home I just got a freaking pdf.

Also, obligatory

B-1 83 said:

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damiond said:

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In North Texas, Fort Worth ISD approved a budget last month with a $45 million deficit, with raises accounting for more than half of that amount. Frisco ISD also approved a $24 million deficit to pay for modest staff raises.
In Central Texas, Austin ISD approved a budget with a $52 million deficit to give employees a 7% raise. San Antonio ISD is giving its teachers raises between 3% and 9%, and it's paying for them by slashing administrative jobs. In the much smaller Smithville ISD, about 45 miles east of Austin, board members approved a 4% raise that will leave the district with a deficit of more than half a million.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/10/texas-schools-teacher-raises/
they already make good money for only working nine months

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You should have stopped before the ignorant troll line.

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Its not a troll line, some of the districts listed pay really well... Texas is actually pretty decent on teacher pay compared to some states.

Not many jobs get paid ~50k for starting right of college for working 9 months a year + all the benefits teaches have.