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Or Chuck Norris
Who do you think created all that pressure?
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Who do you think created all that pressure?
The red strap attaching it to the hoist looks to be looped through the hole where the acrylic window would go.
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look at the screen grab marathonag12 posted above. Looks like there is a lifting strap looped through the hole where the acrylic window would have been located. So probably long gone.bonfarr said:
Is the acrylic window still intact? I can't tell from that tweet.
Never mind, video is much better than the still photos.
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Noticeably absent are "gelatinous globs".
Good to see the used scaffolding parts survived. Isn't that what the landing frame was made from?
If they bring up the interior lights intact what a Marketing coup that will be for Camping World.
If they bring up the interior lights intact what a Marketing coup that will be for Camping World.
Bodies are cremated at ~1600 degrees and from I've heard, the temps got to at least twice that during the implosion. Between the pressure and temperature, there's probably nothing left but ashes.
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Never mind, video is much better than the still photos.
I think a lot of technically naive people (like me) envisioned it looking like a crumpled up Coke can. Both in size and scale.
Real question: The temp rise would have been in milliseconds along with 34F water entry being in milliseconds. I'm wondering if that's enough time/exposure to said temps to truly incinerate human composition? I mean, you can cross your finger through an open flame and not burn it due to lack of time exposure.
Pressure collapse of all our membranes and nonsense is assured; however, I'm not fully convinced of true incineration given the timeframe....but I could be totally off on the thought process here.
Pressure collapse of all our membranes and nonsense is assured; however, I'm not fully convinced of true incineration given the timeframe....but I could be totally off on the thought process here.
I think at the end of the day, pressure wins.
Unless you are a jelly fish, you don't last in that depth.
Unless you are a jelly fish, you don't last in that depth.
Just thinking .....
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that ad. Wow.bonfarr said:
My only politics-related question is whether any of the deceased won't be voting for Biden in 2024?
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My only politics-related question is whether any of the deceased won't be voting for Biden in 2024?
4 of them weren't US citizens.
So to answer your question, they will all be voting Biden 2024.
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Caught my attention also.ThunderCougarFalconBird said:that ad. Wow.bonfarr said:
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My only politics-related question is whether any of the deceased won't be voting for Biden in 2024?
4 of them weren't US citizens.
So to answer your question, they will all be voting Biden 2024.
How many times?
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I called implosion early, but I thought it was going to be high enough that pieces drifting down to the sea floor would scatter them too far apart to collect. I didn't think about the fact that it blew up like a child's toy with pieces immediately getting discarded from the only thing that was really under pressure which was their little tomb. The real ROVs have huge banks of lights so they have a better chance of scanning the area. Pretty impressive the ROVs could get there, find pieces, and retrieve in that amount of time.
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Takes 13ms for your brain to recognize visual changes, and 100ms for your brain to feel pain.
This implosion happened in a few milliseconds.
They didn't see it happen and didn't feel a thing. Not a bad way to go!
This implosion happened in a few milliseconds.
They didn't see it happen and didn't feel a thing. Not a bad way to go!
Mike Shaw - Class of '03
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Real question: The temp rise would have been in milliseconds along with 34F water entry being in milliseconds. I'm wondering if that's enough time/exposure to said temps to truly incinerate human composition? I mean, you can cross your finger through an open flame and not burn it due to lack of time exposure.
Pressure collapse of all our membranes and nonsense is assured; however, I'm not fully convinced of true incineration given the timeframe....but I could be totally off on the thought process here.
I doubt they would have been incinerated given the mass of air involved. I don't think there would be enough energy to flash off all the water in 5 bodies and turn them to ash.
The gasses in their bloodstream/lungs would have likely gone supercritical in an instant though and been immediately fatal.
Unfortunately, if reports of an SOS sent prior to the implosion are accurate, they likely had a little time to sweat about it.Tx-Ag2010 said:McInnis 03 said:
Real question: The temp rise would have been in milliseconds along with 34F water entry being in milliseconds. I'm wondering if that's enough time/exposure to said temps to truly incinerate human composition? I mean, you can cross your finger through an open flame and not burn it due to lack of time exposure.
Pressure collapse of all our membranes and nonsense is assured; however, I'm not fully convinced of true incineration given the timeframe....but I could be totally off on the thought process here.
I doubt they would have been incinerated given the mass of air involved. I don't think there would be enough energy to flash off all the water in 5 bodies and turn them to ash.
The gasses in their bloodstream/lungs would have likely gone supercritical in an instant though and been immediately fatal.
Trump will fix it.
McInnis 03 said:
Real question: The temp rise would have been in milliseconds along with 34F water entry being in milliseconds. I'm wondering if that's enough time/exposure to said temps to truly incinerate human composition? I mean, you can cross your finger through an open flame and not burn it due to lack of time exposure.
Pressure collapse of all our membranes and nonsense is assured; however, I'm not fully convinced of true incineration given the timeframe....but I could be totally off on the thought process here.
An orange flame sure.
Don't touch the blue cone on a oxy/acy torch. Instant 3rd degree burn.
They probably never stopped hoping/praying they would make it. Not going to make it was instantaneous.techno-ag said:Unfortunately, if reports of an SOS sent prior to the implosion are accurate, they likely had a little time to sweat about it.Tx-Ag2010 said:McInnis 03 said:
Real question: The temp rise would have been in milliseconds along with 34F water entry being in milliseconds. I'm wondering if that's enough time/exposure to said temps to truly incinerate human composition? I mean, you can cross your finger through an open flame and not burn it due to lack of time exposure.
Pressure collapse of all our membranes and nonsense is assured; however, I'm not fully convinced of true incineration given the timeframe....but I could be totally off on the thought process here.
I doubt they would have been incinerated given the mass of air involved. I don't think there would be enough energy to flash off all the water in 5 bodies and turn them to ash.
The gasses in their bloodstream/lungs would have likely gone supercritical in an instant though and been immediately fatal.
TexasRebel said:McInnis 03 said:
Real question: The temp rise would have been in milliseconds along with 34F water entry being in milliseconds. I'm wondering if that's enough time/exposure to said temps to truly incinerate human composition? I mean, you can cross your finger through an open flame and not burn it due to lack of time exposure.
Pressure collapse of all our membranes and nonsense is assured; however, I'm not fully convinced of true incineration given the timeframe....but I could be totally off on the thought process here.
An orange flame sure.
Don't touch the blue cone on a oxy/acy torch. Instant 3rd degree burn.
You just are moving fast enough. Reminds me of a guy in high school who said if you jump and grab an electric fence and let go before hitting the ground it won't shock you. He found out he wasn't Jordan.
Just saw an article that they recovered some "presumed human remains"
If in fact they gave an SOS, I wonder if there's possible footage from the sub sremains howing what they went through and the failure mechanism. Might be better if it didn't exist though...ugh.
Wreckage from the Titan submersible, including presumed human remains, was handed over to the U.S. Coast Guard after being pulled ashore in Newfoundland, Canada https://t.co/cwKA37zpxG
— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) June 28, 2023
Yikes. Hopefully the still died in an instant.
I don't know.
It was moving pretty fast.
It was moving pretty fast.
I hope that the lead idiot kept his concerns to himself, or that it was an "Uh oh" followed by lights out.techno-ag said:
Unfortunately, if reports of an SOS sent prior to the implosion are accurate, they likely had a little time to sweat about it.
I suspect the timeline will come out eventually. How long after the distress signal they lost contact with the sub, for example.
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My main problem with the CEO is that he treated the whole project as a garage project. He stated many times that "it should be complicated and should remain simplistic".
That's why he kept bragging about how simple the interior of the Hull was and how he got random parts from Camper World.
It's like Dude! Are you an idiot? There's a reason why other submersibles have a ton of controls and switches on the interior.
That's why he kept bragging about how simple the interior of the Hull was and how he got random parts from Camper World.
It's like Dude! Are you an idiot? There's a reason why other submersibles have a ton of controls and switches on the interior.
YokelRidesAgain said:I hope that the lead idiot kept his concerns to himself, or that it was an "Uh oh" followed by lights out.techno-ag said:
Unfortunately, if reports of an SOS sent prior to the implosion are accurate, they likely had a little time to sweat about it.
I suspect the timeline will come out eventually. How long after the distress signal they lost contact with the sub, for example.
If I remember correctly there wasn't constant contact with the sub, it would just send an update every 10 or 15 minutes.
I'm surprised they are recovering the wreckage at all.
Who do you suppose is financing that operation and why?
Who do you suppose is financing that operation and why?
So, far, the debris seems to be in good shape, considering what it's been through. But what we don't see is any part of the carbon fiber hull tube. Are they planning to bring it up later? Or did it shatter into pieces too small to recover?
I don't necessarily fault him for keeping it simple - SpaceX crew capsule is famously simple for the occupants, in fact they don't have to do anything.
But SpaceX probably a little more work into their control systems than Ocean gate...
But SpaceX probably a little more work into their control systems than Ocean gate...
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