Adventure to the Titanic goes terribly wrong [Staff Warning in OP]

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In reply to MarathonAg12 • 2:11p, 6/26/23
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MarathonAg12 said:
What if they sent down an empty sub and those dudes had insane life insurance policies and fled to an island country
claims for "death via death trap" are probably excluded from coverage.
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In reply to MarathonAg12 • 2:41p, 6/26/23
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MarathonAg12 said:
What if they sent down an empty sub and those dudes had insane life insurance policies and fled to an island country

Jonathan Creek is on it!
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In reply to Burdizzo • 3:01p, 6/26/23
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TV news reporting the US and five other countries are starting investigations of the event.


This is dumb. What a waste of govt resources.
Yep.

Guy made an unclassed unregulated sub which he is entitled to do.

He did it using technical staff that had little technical expertise in that or really any field, which he is entitled to do.

Lots of smart people and experts in the field told him he was making very bad design choices and he ignored them which he is entitled to do.

He conned lots of rich people to pay him to ride in it which everyone involved is entitled to do.

It had the expected catastrophic failure.

You can't regulate stupidity. Some people want to find expensive and creative ways to die and you can't regulate that either. Move along.



I would argue that he is not entitled to do all of that. He offered the tours as a publicly available service. Once you do that there is an obligation to ensure that the equipment is designed and operated with public safety as the first priority. Ask any PE registered in any state, and they will tell you that. As d-bag legal tactic he made all the tourist "crew members" as if they were now responsible for their own safety and the proper operation of the vessel. In that case he now opens himself up to OSHA realm since he didn't ensure the safety of his workers. That release they signed acknowledging the risks wasn't worth wiping your ass with.

Sure he's dead now, but there will be a long list of other people who will get included in the lawsuit.
lawsuits are not regulation. they are much better than that, assuming that the judge isnt crooked and the jury has at least a 90 iq.

both sides get to have their say, jury rules based upon all that, and everybody lives with the result. taxpayers are only out a few days salary for the court.

and yes, they will and can be sued.

regulation is bull*****

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In reply to BQ78 • 5:12p, 6/26/23
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They had a state of the art INS on board, the iXBlue Phins. They also had Technadyne thrusters. Same ones we buy and not available at Camping World.
You missed my point, I am not saying they are more valuable than anything on the Titan or at the Titanic wreck site, I am saying they are the most valuable items down there right now IMO because of the notoriety associated with it. It's like people paying ungodly amounts of money for a cheeto shaped like Christ or a guitar pick used by Eddie Van Halen.
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In reply to AnScAggie • 5:16p, 6/26/23
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AnScAggie said:
BQ78 said:
They had a state of the art INS on board, the iXBlue Phins. They also had Technadyne thrusters. Same ones we buy and not available at Camping World.
You missed my point, I am not saying they are more valuable than anything on the Titan or at the Titanic wreck site, I am saying they are the most valuable items down there right now IMO because of the notoriety associated with it. It's like people paying ungodly amounts of money for a cheeto shaped like Christ or a guitar pick used by Eddie Van Halen.
Hey, lets not get carried away here.
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11:36p, 6/26/23
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Are we safe to post memes now?
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In reply to bonfarr • 11:50p, 6/26/23
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Are we safe to post memes now?
I started a memes page

Not sure if still up or not
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In reply to bonfarr • 11:53p, 6/26/23
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Are we safe to post memes now?
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12:05a, 6/27/23
People might sue but i'd bet nobody sees a dime from this accident.
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12:13a, 6/27/23
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12:15a, 6/27/23
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12:18a, 6/27/23
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1:34p, 6/28/23
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Quote:
Debris from the Titan submersible that suffered a catastrophic implosion in the Atlantic ocean last week has been hauled ashore.

Large pieces of metal were unloaded from the Canadian vessel the Horizon Arctic in St John's, Newfoundland, on Wednesday morning.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pictured-first-fragments-destroyed-titan-151027948.html





Doesn't seem as fractured or obliterated as I would have imagined it to look.
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1:37p, 6/28/23
Wow

The submersible is a lot more intact than I thought it would be

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In reply to NPH- • 1:38p, 6/28/23
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Agree. Very surprised.
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In reply to MarathonAg12 • 1:38p, 6/28/23
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Geez, she doesn't seem qualified to be a ski lift operator in Colorado.
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1:39p, 6/28/23
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That looks like it's all stuff that would have been outside the pressure hull.
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In reply to BG Knocc Out • 1:39p, 6/28/23
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I'm fairly certain she's talking slowly for effect.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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In reply to MarathonAg12 • 1:40p, 6/28/23
MarathonAg12 said:
Wow

The submersible is a lot more intact than I thought it would be



After seeing that, I'm guessing their deaths weren't as instantaneous as we had hoped they would have been.
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In reply to MarathonAg12 • 1:41p, 6/28/23
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Those are external pieces and frame, they weren't subject to differential pressure/implosion. The implosion/explosion just blew them off and away, wouldn't have crushed them.

I don't see anything resembling the cylindrical pressure vessel or the titanium end caps.
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1:42p, 6/28/23
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Bodies still intact? That resembles a boat, I thought it was instantly turned to dust.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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In reply to PlaneCrashGuy • 1:46p, 6/28/23
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I'm fairly certain she's talking slowly for effect.
I just mean her overall appearance/demeanor. Clearly a die hard social justice warrior lib. No thanks.
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In reply to chase128 • 1:47p, 6/28/23
chase128 said:
Those are external pieces and frame, they weren't subject to differential pressure/implosion. The implosion/explosion just blew them off and away, wouldn't have crushed them.

I don't see anything resembling the cylindrical pressure vessel or the titanium end caps.


This tweet shows something that looks like cylindrical nose cap:

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In reply to Tramp96 • 1:50p, 6/28/23
There wouldn't be any blood and guts left right?

Even skull and bones were vaporized?
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1:51p, 6/28/23
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The nose cap and ring they literally glued to the carbon pressure vessel.
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1:51p, 6/28/23
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The cataclysm of the implosion was the air inside the vessel being highly compressed, in microseconds, which also generated tremendous heat before being cooled by the surrounding 34 degree seawater. Solids don't compress like air, or like liquid which makes up most of the human body. So the solids would have stayed relatively intact, everything else not so much.

The description of "debris field" seems to indicate cataclysmic failure. The back end of that submersible being relatively intact doesn't indicate their deaths were anything less than instant.
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In reply to Tramp96 • 1:52p, 6/28/23
Cringe watching that video
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In reply to ConstructionAg01 • 1:53p, 6/28/23
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ConstructionAg01 said:
The cataclysm of the implosion was the air inside the vessel being highly compressed, in microseconds, which also generated tremendous heat before being cooled by the surrounding 34 degree seawater. Solids don't compress like air, or like liquid which makes up most of the human body. So the solids would have stayed relatively intact, everything else not so much.

The description of "debris field" seems to indicate cataclysmic failure. The back end of that submersible being relatively intact doesn't indicate their deaths were anything less than instant.

Can you repeat that, in English?
"I'm sure that won't make a bit of difference for those of you who enjoy a baseless rage over the decisions of a few teenagers."
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In reply to aginlakeway • 2:03p, 6/28/23
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Sub went boom. Bodies went whooooosh and squish.
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In reply to BG Knocc Out • 2:19p, 6/28/23
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BG Knocc Out said:
MarathonAg12 said:
Geez, she doesn't seem qualified to be a ski lift operator in Colorado.


She's a videographers/photographer and likely had no impact on anything related to the operation or design of the Titan. She also took what is likely the last footage of the Titan still intact. It's been taken down now but she posted a TikTok of the Titan as it was descending on its final voyage. Prior to that she had a video of Paul Henri Nargeolet as he resurfaced from his 37th trip to the Titanic.
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In reply to MarathonAg12 • 2:31p, 6/28/23
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In the fraction of a section when the air in the sub was compressed from 14.7psi to 6000psi or whatever, the air temp would have shot up thousands of degrees F. They were vaporized and smashed in less than a second.

I don't know what pressure it takes to grind human bones but I'd guess there might be some bone fragments left. Doubt anything would be discernable.
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In reply to chase128 • 2:42p, 6/28/23
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chase128 said:
In the fraction of a section when the air in the sub was compressed from 14.7psi to 6000psi or whatever, the air temp would have shot up thousands of degrees F. They were vaporized and smashed in less than a second.

I don't know what pressure it takes to grind human bones but I'd guess there might be some bone fragments left. Doubt anything would be discernable.

The only person that might have survived something like this is John McLane.
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In reply to Squadron7 • 2:44p, 6/28/23
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Or Chuck Norris
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In reply to Old May Banker • 2:44p, 6/28/23
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Old May Banker said:
Or Chuck Norris

The Titanic would have come to him.
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2:45p, 6/28/23
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Is the acrylic window still intact? I can't tell from that tweet.
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