Oceangate confirming the titan has been lost. Debris about 500 meters from bow of the Titanic

Acquaintance and fellow total solar eclipse chaser Mike Reiss took the dive in July of 2022. Explains the trip to CNN at 3m15sec mark. Where did he get the money? He wrote and produced for a little show called The Simpsons.

Last episode he produced? "Simpson Tide"

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Interesting question. I don't know the answers. Are there any human bones that can survive 25,000 psi?

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It isn't just the pressure, it's the rate of increase in pressure. Imagine a fully loaded semi truck with all of its weight somehow pressed on 1 square inch of your body. Now have it do that after dropping from a 10 story building and over your whole body. .

TxSquarebody said:

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Interesting question. I don't know the answers. Are there any human bones that can survive 25,000 psi?

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In case it has not previously been linked, an interesting Quora post on the subject:
https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-to-the-human-body-if-it-were-suddenly-placed-in-the-deepest-part-of-the-ocean

Would the carbon fiber hull just disintegrate into a billion little pieces or would it compress into a flat piece?

Wrong thread

TexasRebel said:

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Gigem314 said:

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He'd also been on this sub before. Everyone else who rode it said a big fat nope to returning, but this guy went back for more. Why?

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Yeah, considering he'd been to the Titanic over 30 times before - and probably gone on much better vessels than the Titan. Yet he chose to keep going down again. Guess he thought it was worth the risk at 77.

Saw this from one of the articles, and these comments from the CEO seem haunting:

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'It's acrylic plexiglass,' Rush tells Estrada after being asked what the window mounted at the front of the Titan vessel is made of.

'It is seven inches thick and weighs about 80lbs. And when we go to the Titanic, it will squeeze in about three-quarters of an inch and just deforms,' he explains.

'And acrylic is great because before it cracks or fails, it starts to crackle so you get a huge warning if it's going to fail.'

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12222279/OceanGate-boss-Stockton-Rush-revealed-hes-broken-rules-make-lost-Titan-sub.html

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Sorry. I don't want a warning of impending failure at 12,000 ft. deep. I want the warning above water. At depth it needs to fail safely.

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They need to do testing to greater pressures than it will ever be expected to encounter when manned.

Want to take it to 12,500 feet? Why not test it at 15,000 feet or even lower? Make sure that there is an adequate margin of safety.

One thing that would be interesting is to take prototypes down until they crumple and then examine the damage to see how it crumpled.

Wasn't it built with titanium and carbon fiber bonded together? Back in the 1980s and 1990s when I rode bicycles 3,000 to 5,000 miles per year, there were bicycles built with carbon fiber frames and with titanium frames. The general wisdom was that if you had a carbon fiber frame and did any damage to it in an accident, even a simple nick, you needed to replace the frame to avoid catastrophic failure.

If the titanium and carbon fiber are bonded together, what would flexing of the titanium do to the carbon fiber?

And then there is the question of using off the shelf parts for the navigation and other systems.

It seems like it was designed for the best it would encounter, not the worst it would encounter.

How were your predictions? Reading the wreckage was found within 500m of the titanic.

Not sure what we sent them, will try to find out when I can.

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The thing that pisses me off (even though it did not matter in the end) is that the Oceangate mother ship got the distress call (have no idea what they said), lost all comm and then did not notify anyone outside of Oceangate for nearly a day.

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Yeah that was definitely odd. I wonder if they knew immediately what had happened and they were in such a panic they had no idea what to do with their leader gone. Even if they thought it was just another loss of comm like on their previous missions, waiting nearly a day to contact the outside world is a strange move.

Debris field found

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All five passengers aboard the missing OceanGate submersible jetting out to view the Titanic wreckage "have sadly been lost," the vessel's operator said Thursday.

"We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost," the company said in a statement to CNN.

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https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/missing-titanic-sub-search-continues-live-updates/amp/

BQ78 said:

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The thing that pisses me off (even though it did not matter in the end) is that the Oceangate mother ship got the distress call (have no idea what they said), lost all comm and then did not notify anyone outside of Oceangate for nearly a day.

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They had to update their resumes and line up interviews before news hit. [/jk]

I'll bet it was good practice at predicting rescue/recovery plans by locating it even if they are sure about the implosion. I had no doubt and my only connection to it is engineering and materials science.

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All five passengers aboard the missing OceanGate submersible jetting out to view the Titanic wreckage "have sadly been lost," the vessel's operator said Thursday.

"We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost," the company said in a statement to CNN.

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https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/missing-titanic-sub-search-continues-live-updates/amp/

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Stockton Rush's wife is the communication director for OceanGate.

Wonder what she is feeling having had to put that statement together.

Gigem314 said:

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The thing that pisses me off (even though it did not matter in the end) is that the Oceangate mother ship got the distress call (have no idea what they said), lost all comm and then did not notify anyone outside of Oceangate for nearly a day.

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Yeah that was definitely odd. I wonder if they knew immediately what had happened and they were in such a panic they had no idea what to do with their leader gone. Even if they thought it was just another loss of comm like on their previous missions, waiting nearly a day to contact the outside world is a strange move.

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Circle the wagons and get their ducks in a row before making the announcement would be my guess. I am sure that they all realized that the catastrophic loss of the sub meant the death of the company and not just its founder/CEO.

The last footage of the capsule is literally this TikTok of a OceanGate worker 💀 pic.twitter.com/kZ7onQKkLV

— NiCO 🏳️‍🌈🇨🇱♂️ (@nicx_cc) June 22, 2023

CG now saying that they don't have any sound recording of catastrophic failure.

AgsOnDeck said:

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Train Tank vacuum implosion at 1 atmospheric pressure. The depth at #Titan is around 375 atmospheres. All speculation.....but a picture is worth a thousand words. pic.twitter.com/sFgcSjhr5A

— Adam Stuart (@amstuart1994) June 22, 2023

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That's not exactly comparable. Look at what cavitation does to ship propellers.

Low pressure voids collapsing in on themselves cause explosive force when they collapse. Force that rips apart hardened steel in fluid power applications.

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TxSquarebody said:

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Interesting question. I don't know the answers. Are there any human bones that can survive 25,000 psi?

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In case it has not previously been linked, an interesting Quora post on the subject:
https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-to-the-human-body-if-it-were-suddenly-placed-in-the-deepest-part-of-the-ocean

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So BQ is just posting national security info on TexAgs?

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CG now saying that they don't have any sound recording of catastrophic failure.

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Even if they did, they wouldn't release it. We'll never see this debris field either. (Be too much for people to absorb).

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Ag_07 said:

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CG now saying that they don't have any sound recording of catastrophic failure.

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Even if they did, they wouldn't release it. We'll never see this debris field either. (Be too much for people to absorb).

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Lol I want to see it

The CG press conference is very impressive. These people know their stuff ...