Adventure to the Titanic goes terribly wrong [Staff Warning in OP]

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Seems to me like they found it, need to notify the families and then announce it is a total loss. Otherwise, I think they would have clarified their "found a debris field near the titanic" comments.
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Press conference at 3... which time zone?
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Debris field would indicate instant death.

I hope for their final moments sakes that's true
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themissinglink said:




They got any Canadian necromancers? At this point that's just a waste of resources.
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So what would a "debris field" most likely prove? It imploded under pressure?
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"debris field" indicates the wrecked sub presumably?
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agracer said:

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I think the 96hr Oxygen thing is false. I doubt the people who built this sub have any clue how much Oxygen is available for 5 people operating that thing.

especially during stress... my wife will inhale twice as much air as i do on scuba dives...
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Sounds like the vessel imploded on its way down…
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NPH- said:

Press conference at 3... which time zone?
I think I've read 3pm ET
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NPH- said:

NPH- said:

Press conference at 3... which time zone?
I think I've read 3pm ET
Yes, the base is In Boston, I think.
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FireAg said:

Sounds like the vessel imploded on its way down…
Yeah, I've never seriously considered any other possibility. It just seems incredibly obvious it imploded on the way down and they've been dead and obliterated since early Sunday.
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Burdizzo said:

Sea Speed said:

It was never going to be good news.


What is up with your thumbs up emoticon? (Never mind. Saw your later response(


Are you still not able to edit the emoticon?
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BadMoonRisin said:

themissinglink said:




They got any Canadian necromancers? At this point that's just a waste of resources.
It was on it's way before the debris was found.
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I took a deep dive on this vessel and it was filled with so much stupidity
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AgsOnDeck said:

I took a deep dive on this vessel and it was filled with so much stupidity
Very common IT industry phrase that will be viewed in a whole different light now.
But also a good parallel for why so many tech companies are overhyped.
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AgsOnDeck said:

I took a deep dive on this vessel and it was filled with so much stupidity


Can you explain? I think we have all seen many questionable choices made in the design and maintenance of this vessel
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I would like to see someone like James Cameron (a well known celebrity deep diver, particularly with his connection to The Titanic) to put out a video explaining the technical differences between the sub he uses when diving versus what these people were using)
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I read that there were signs of damage/weakening on several occasions after previous dives and that the max depth was de-rated in response. Then there was vague mention of "repairs" and magically the full depth rating was restored.

I'd rather get launched into orbit on that ripoff Russian space shuttle that only flew once unmanned than go six inches underwater in this sub.
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Fightin_Aggie said:

AgsOnDeck said:

I took a deep dive on this vessel and it was filled with so much stupidity


Can you explain? I think we have all seen many questionable choices made in the design and maintenance of this vessel


Sure! The whole damn vessel is jerry-rigged!

-No emergency hatch. Once you reach the top of the surface, someone must find you and unbolt 17 bolts
-Video shows the CEO stating that multiple parts of the capsule were off the shelf items from Camper World
-personally modified Bluetooth video game controller (not wired)
-internal lights purchased from Camper World
-2nd use scaffolding poles
-Major concerns about the hull dating from 2018
-camper world toilet
-incompetent staff hires
-Statement and belief from the CEO that "Saftey is a waste"
-CEO was tired of being surrounded by 50 year old white guys who were ex-military. They were probably to pessimistic and pigeonholed his ideas (geeeze I wonder why)
-CEO sued a former employee because of his negative remarks and concerns for the Hull. Old employee counter sued.
-Reporter David Pogue said pieces of the submersible seemed "improvised," but Mr Rush told him the vessel would be "safe" even if parts didn't work.

I could go on and on man….
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What's the estimate on search and rescue costs?
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Is it not feasible or possible for subs like this to have a locator beacon? I understand that underwater it would be tough due to acoustics, but is the technology not there? At the minimum, something that sends distance and diagnostic data back to its "mothership"?
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TefIon Don said:

Is it not feasible or possible for subs like this to have a locator beacon? I understand that underwater it would be tough due to acoustics, but is the technology not there? At the minimum, something that sends distance and diagnostic data back to its "mothership"?
Absolutely feasible but this guy was a moron.
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The technology is there, both for underwater acoustic beacons, and radio beacons that can be located by satellites within seconds if they're lost and bobbing on the surface. Of course, it had neither.
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McInnis 03 said:

Debris field would indicate instant death.

I hope for their final moments sakes that's true
I think the people on the support ship knew Sunday.

Not saying anything gave them some legal cover and/or all those idiotic college grads running it were too scared to speak up.
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My theory?

The underwater vehicle submerged on Sunday morning (18 June) and its support vessel lost contact with it about an hour and 45 minutes later.

After almost 2 hours submerging, the submarine imploded causing a loss of communication. So hopefully it was a quick death.

My question is would there be any body parts or existence of them 4-5 days later at the bottom of the sea?
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AgsOnDeck said:

Fightin_Aggie said:

AgsOnDeck said:

I took a deep dive on this vessel and it was filled with so much stupidity


Can you explain? I think we have all seen many questionable choices made in the design and maintenance of this vessel


Sure! The whole damn vessel is jerry-rigged!

-No emergency hatch. Once you reach the top of the surface, someone must find you and unbolt 17 bolts
-Video shows the CEO stating that multiple parts of the capsule were off the shelf items from Camper World
-personally modified Bluetooth video game controller (not wired)
-internal lights purchased from Camper World
-2nd use scaffolding poles
-Major concerns about the hull dating from 2018
-camper world toilet
-incompetent staff hires
-Statement and belief from the CEO that "Saftey is a waste"
-CEO was tired of being surrounded by 50 year old white guys who were ex-military. They were probably to pessimistic and pigeonholed his ideas (geeeze I wonder why)
-CEO sued a former employee because of his negative remarks and concerns for the Hull. Old employee counter sued.
-Reporter David Pogue said pieces of the submersible seemed "improvised," but Mr Rush told him the vessel would be "safe" even if parts didn't work.

I could go on and on man….



In hindsight, they should not have built the hatch out of the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients
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Instant death. The best of all of the bad alternatives.
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I'm an electrical engineer, not a physicist, but understanding is that a sudden implosion at those depths would basically vaporize everything inside.
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Yeah their insides likely became outsides very quickly.
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akaggie05 said:

The technology is there, both for underwater acoustic beacons, and radio beacons that can be located by satellites within seconds if they're lost and bobbing on the surface. Of course, it had neither.


Just unreal.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

I would like to see someone like James Cameron (a well known celebrity deep diver, particularly with his connection to The Titanic) to put out a video explaining the technical differences between the sub he uses when diving versus what these people were using)
It seems like that analysis would be better from a 3rd party. Given that 4 of the people onboard were paying passengers trusting the company with whom they contracted (not total innocents but certainly more innocent than, say, a test pilot signing up for a good chance at death in the interest of science and country), it seems like it would be hard to say "Hi I'm James Cameron and here's all the reasons I lived through deeper dives and your family didn't. Of course I didn't say anything previously though."
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AgsOnDeck said:

My theory?

The underwater vehicle submerged on Sunday morning (18 June) and its support vessel lost contact with it about an hour and 45 minutes later.

After almost 2 hours submerging, the submarine imploded causing a loss of communication. So hopefully it was a quick death.

My question is would there be any body parts or existence of them 4-5 days later at the bottom of the sea?


Very possible there are remains. When we recovered portions of the K129 (see project Azorian) after 6 years of sitting on the floor of the Pacific, they were able to identify remains of 6 Soviet sailors and give them a burial at see. There's a video on YouTube I believe of the ceremony. One of the bodies, IIRC, was found to still be in his bunk, which is probably he had no idea what was happening before the sun imploded.
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Quote:

Statement and belief from the CEO that "Saftey is a waste"


You serious Clark? Wow.

If anyone that entered that sub knew he said this and went anyway, then I stand by my earlier statement that these passengers were dumbasses.
 
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